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spydur86
So, I was reviewing some of my hands from a couple tournaments I played earlier, and running them through SNG when this hand came up and I wondered if it may be a leak in my game that I'm starting to find or if it's something that I should just write off. Here's the hand:

8 Handed blinds are at 200/400/25
Stacks Are:
SB - 2605
BB - 315
UTG - 3140
UTG+1 - 3765
Hero - 3011
HJ - 2555
CO - 6942
Button - 6110

Hero Dealt (Qh, Js)
Action:
BB is All in for 315, UTG Bets 825, UTG+1 folds, Hero??

Now, SNGWiz is saying I should be reshoving here....
So, should I really be reshoving with QJos here? I feel like in the $1.10 45mans I get called so light most of the time that any KT+ and any ace is going to call me so is it really going to be profitable in the end? Maybe when you're playing higher stakes and people respect raises more I could see this being a shove, but it just seems to be -EV to be shoving into calling stations with these types of hands at this level of play.

On the flip side I do understand that I have less than 10bb's and I need to be getting them in at some point, but shouldn't I be looking to get hands like this in with vigorish?

I haven't done much with SNG and I'm really just starting to look into it and play around with it, so it's also entirely possible that I have some settings wrong somewhere =P. Just thought I'd bring it up for discussion.

EDIT: As a side note, I have no reads on the villain as I just moved to the table and have only played a few hands.
slink
This is a great question, and I hope it gets a lot of discussion. If it's me I fold thinking I am prob dead to a Queen (3 outs) or at best need to hit a Jack or Queen (6 outs).
spydur86
Yeah, I just think Q high is going to be good 0% of the time here vs. most of the villains UTG betting range. I don't really see why he'd be flat out trying to steal knowing he's going to have to showdown with the BB anyway. I keep thinking about it and for the life of me I see zero reasons to shove in this spot, so I was hoping someone could bring to light a different point of view if I am missing something.
Biff Goods
yah I can't see a valid argument for QJ being good here. Maybe there is some generic math equation that we are missing but I think the problem is SNGwiz doesn't accurately put your opponents on correct ranges...or any ranges at all for that matter...
spydur86
QUOTE (Biff Goods @ Friday, March 19th, 2010, 7:06 PM) *
yah I can't see a valid argument for QJ being good here. Maybe there is some generic math equation that we are missing but I think the problem is SNGwiz doesn't accurately put your opponents on correct ranges...or any ranges at all for that matter...


Yeah, I kind of figured that was the case but I figured I'd toss it up here for discussion just to see if anyone actually could make a valid argument for a shove.
delved
QJ isn't fine at micro stakes. You get called very light there. If you were in a normal MTT its a good play because of the dead money out there, but even so its a UTG bet. Depends on your read, but probably 90% of time were folding and letting him have at.
HighwayStar
This is never a shove. SNG Wiz either sucks or you're using it wrong.

It's close if it's folded to you, maybe you've left out the person raising? I think I'd shove here if folded to me but it's definitely towards the bottom of what I shove.
rrumsey
QUOTE (HighwayStar @ Saturday, March 20th, 2010, 8:52 AM) *
This is never a shove. SNG Wiz either sucks or you're using it wrong.

It's close if it's folded to you, maybe you've left out the person raising? I think I'd shove here if folded to me but it's definitely towards the bottom of what I shove.

WAY TO MUCH A GAMBOOLL
spydur86
Yeah, I folded it without even thinking about it and would've never given it a second thought had I not seen that on SNGWiz. I just didn't know if there happened to be something I was missing, guess not. Thanks guys.
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