Just read through it. Just tried to put as much into this as I could to get things going and gauge final interest. Comment, change, flame, troll, whatever. Just trying to get this going.


Auction Draft for first 15 rounds on yahoo.... http://baseball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/b1/430695 (password will be PM'ed)

Message board for league..... http://fcpbl.activeboard.com/index.spark





LEAGUE SETTINGS


Each team will consist of 30 roster players (2 Pitching Teams minimum) and up to a 30 player farm team.

Depending on number of players in the league this is the set up

10 teams - 2 divisions of 5 teams, top 2 in each division make the playoffs

12 teams – 3 divisions of 4 teams, top teams in each division go on and two wildcards.

15 teams – 3 divisions of 5, top teams in each division go on and two wildcards.

Teams will dress each game night the following:
C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, 3 OF’s, 1 Utility and 1 Pitching team

Games will be played in a series much like regular baseball. There will be 3 game series and some 4 game series. All game nights will feature each MLB team. ( I could throw in some short nights on 4 game series to make it interesting)

We need to discuss a tie breaker/Extra inning player type rule that I haven’t figured out yet. Could be similar where you designate one batter with (EI) and that players score will go against the other teams (EI) player. If still a tie, then a tie?

Lineups must be posted within 1 hour of the first pitch of the first MLB game of that night. We need to discuss a penalty for not submitting lineup (scoring wise)


SALARIES

Each team will start off with $75. The first 15 players on the team will be drafted by auction draft. (Need to find a site that might do auction leagues and just do it that way). The next 15 players will be drafted normally in snake draft order with these salaries based on the round they were selected:

16th – 18th round: $1.50
19th – 22nd round $1.00
23rd – 30th round $.50

You can add a maximum of 2 free agents to your roster per week, beginning on Sunday, providing they are FCPBL elegibe, are not currently on waivers, and will not put your roster over 30 active players. All free agents will carry a set salary of $1.00. To pick up a free agent, you must post a message in the transactions section of wherever we can find. You may also be required to drop a player to keep your current roster at 28 active players.

FCPBL eligible means that they have dressed at least 1 MLB regular season game in their career, and at least 1 week has passed since their first MLB game has been played..

Any player that is acquired (traded for or free agent) after the deadline of a gameday is not eligible to play that night. If they are acquired before the deadline, then they are eligible to dress that day.

If you drop a player that is in the final year of his contract, you are free of his salary. However, if you want to drop a player that has 1 or more years remaining after the current season on their contract, you must buy that player out for half of his contract PER SEASON.

Example: You sign Player A to a 3 year contract at 6.00, 7.00, 8.00. A week into season 1, he decides he wants to see the world and smoke dope. $3.00 comes off your cap season 1, $3.50 season 2, $4.00 season 3.


No Injured Reserves (YES DUANE THAT MEANS YOU! lol)

Contracts

This is not my area of expertise. Most of this I am modeling after the FCHL. I know there are other people here from the AHL and I am more than happy to model stuff after that as well, I am just simply unaware of your rules. The FCHL contract rules base the contracts on performance. The better the performance of the player in comparison to the league the bigger then salary increase. We need to determine this somehow.


Farm Teams

Farm team is built on an annual entry draft. Players eligible for the 1st annual entry draft are players that were in A, AA, or AAA in the 2009 MLB season (played less than 20 games on the big club??? Maybe) and players selected in the 2009 MLB Entry Draft.

5 Rounds, snake draft.
Salaries for drafted players

1st Round - $2
2nd Round- $1.50
3rd -4th Round $1
5th Round - $.50
Farm players can be called up at any point during the season at their specified salary. I think the AHL allows players to be called up and then sent down. I would be interested in doing something like that here since. Any ideas would be great.

The Entry Draft order will be random for the first season. All other season will need to be determined since I know everyone has an idea on this. Lottery style, reverse order, loser games during the playoffs, etc.


FREE AGENT DRAFT

Every offseason (Feb or March) we will have a free agent draft where we will bid on all players who are:

a) not currently on a team
have dressed at least 1 MLB game

This will be done to help you bring your roster up to 30 players. It will be auction style.

TRADING

Before the trade deadline you can trade any commodities which include:

-Roster Players
-Salary Cap
-Farm Players
-Entry Draft Picks
-Waiver Priority
-Also can add conditions to your trades



Schedule
This is the schedule I made.


April
9 10 11
16 17 18
21 23 24 25
30 May 1 2

May
7 8 9
14 15 16
19 21 22 23
28 29 30

June
4 5 6
9 11 12 13
18 19 20
25 26 27

July
2 3 4
9 10 11
16 17 18
21 23 24 25
30 31 Aug 1

Aug
6 7 8
11 13 14 15
20 21 22


65 games. Leaves 28 full game nights for playoffs. 5 4 games series.


SCORING

Pitching Stats:
Win - 2 point
Loss - (-.5 point)
Save - 1 point
Strikeout - .25 point
Walk - (-.25 point)
Run Allowed ( -.25 point)
Blown Save - .50

Hitting Stats:
1pts for HR
.25 for double
.50 for triple
.50 for RBI
.25 for Run
-.25 for SO
.25 for walk
.25 for SB


Of course all of this can be tweaked but I am just trying to show some initiive if you will. I am serious about helping make this all work and I am pretty geeked about it. We could start with 10, and if all goes well expand next season to 12-15. Pick this apart, add, subtract, whatever. Just a template to get this ball going down the hill faster.

I think we can use espn or something to run the auction draft for the first draft and then use a message board or something for the rest of the draft.

first...in 100%...The main thing is who/what will keep stats

I didnt read anything after the first line.

IN.


thanks for setting it up, once I get more time, I will read through with any suggestions.

Lol...me too.

http://fcpbl.activeboard.com/index.spark

working on a message board. Feel free to log in. Just started playing with it.

Regarding who keeps stats, I already said I could do scores the day after games and Danny said he would as well I believe.

definitely seems like a cool idea and would be in even though I suck

great job steve...so this would be ML pull not AL, only..Which is totally fine with me..

Does ESPN have the technology to do an auction draft?

You didn't say ESPN did you?

in BTW

lol..i know you guys hate it..but not sure if Yahoo does auction drafts..If so for sure yahoo...

I think an automated online draft would be awesomeness..UNLESS

You guys are welcome to come to Toronto...BBQ at my house.

I'm in, excellent work on the outline! I will be a major dog in this, but it will be fun. I need to start researching asap.

For the auction, we could always use some sort of real-time online chat program (msn, aol, IRC)

http://baseball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/b1/430695

That is the auction draft for the first 15 rounds. Thank god it's on yahoo as espn is such shit.

I will email passwords once we make so more decisions.

Lunch time!

Also, 12 is the max we can do. So ignore 15 teams. 10 or 12. whichever we can get.


Interest:

SBriand x
Dale x
Serge x
Arp x
John x
Dubey x
Wsox8 x
Speed x
Andre x
Danny x
Wayne ?

x = you were sent password for yahoo auction draft page

I may have missed this in here somewhere because I skimmed it, but are we each putting up $75 or is that just the salary figure that is given to each team?

I think thats the salary figure...but good question.

While we dont need to make it super expensive to enter, we should have some money involved.

Yeah that was what I was thinking.

In, because I didn't say that earlier.

I think we said $30 in the other thread. I am fine with that. $25 if need be. But I don't want to go more than $30.

I'm fine with $25. Serge can pay for me because he'll owe me that at the end of the nhl season

Draft date needs to be set for the auction draft. Should take about 3 hours give or take 20 minutes depending on 10 or 12 players. The only day I can't do it is March 28th. I am free any other day.

So post up days or dates you can't and we will try and set a time that works and gives us at least a week of prep time.

i prefer a weeknight, Monday to Thursday after 8pm

Mondays are excellent for me.

Tuesdays I get home about 9

Wednesdays are good

Thursdays are doable

So hows Monday March 29th?

later the better for me on any night.
Sundays+Tuesdays I cant do.

I may have to work until 10:30 that night.

Sunday nights are usually the best for the majority. Is all of Sunday no good for you?

In if there's room.

I can usually get home by 6:00 p.m. (PST) most nights

Sundays:
28th I could do after 9pm.
April 4th would be good if it was 8pm or later. (its Easter if that throws anyone off)

ya easter usually isnt a good day..

Another Sunday night is fine though

We still have to do the regular draft after the auction and I think games start the 6th? That might be pushing it.

Sundays and Saturdays are good if I have enough notice.


edit: lol that is easter

We are at 10 people if danny hasn't backed out in the last two days.

We can stick with 10 or add 2 more.

I am good all evenings after 8 PM EST, except fridays. Most Sundays are good for me all day as well.

Sunday, March 28th at 9:01pm works for me.

i can agree to this

This is completely unrelated to this, but I think a silent auction would be an interesting way to pick players/salaries.

I'm flexible.

This works for me.

Okay if March 28th at 9:01pm EST is fine then I will set it for that.

Then we need to do the final 15 round snake draft either another night after or start doing it on the message board over the following week before the first game on April 9th?


Edit: set for March 28th at 9:15

For drafting a pitching team during the Auction draft you need to just pick a pitcher from that team.

Can you repost the info again such as rules and is it head to head/roty?

Read the first post. It is a FCHL/AHL type thing. Just using yahoo to do the first 15 rounds of the draft.

Absolutely perfect ttime and date for me. My schedule around that is going to be nuts and this might be the only time and day I can do this.

CLAP CLAP CLAP.

Way to go Steve. Very nice job with both the outline, and taking the initiative!

I have a lot to say, but that is only because the outline was so thorough I could get picky.

My thoughts:
- Starting positions. This might be contentious, but I really think there could be more flexibility. Something like "infield" and "outfield," and/or have more like 15 starting positions. With 28 players and only 10ish positions, that is way more depth than necessary. There will be several useless roster spots.

- I'd like to see either 2 pitchers being the min AND max, or, 3 being the min and max if there are 10 teams. If we have 12 teams, use "B" teams like the AHL. Basically, just make sure every team has the same number. I think there was too much of an advantage in the FCHL when some teams had 3 and some had 2 goalies.

- Drafting - right now it is set up so the Cubans that come over are not eligible to be drafted. I'm ok with that, but as it stands, they can't be drafted or signed. Also, the rules about being in A/AA/AAA disclude college players. Suggestion - use FCHL rules - a player must be signed or drafted by an MLB team, and have, say, 10 games or less in the MLB. We could even say 1 game or less. We could also put an age limit on it - i.e. the above rules apply, but if the player is 25 or older and signed, he can be signed in our league (but not drafted.)

- I'd also like to see the draft be closer to FCHL-style. More rounds in the first year, with a higher scale. For instance, 7 rounds in the first year ($2/1.5/1.5/1/1/.5/.5, or something) and 5 in future years ($2/1.5/1/.5/.5).

- 4-game nights is a cool idea. Maybe base it on the number of divisions? For instance, if we have 5-team divisions, play one against each rival.

- I'm interested! Schedule works for me. I'll make time.

- Stats - as mentioned, I will keep track of them, or help keep track. I don't think it will take all that much time. We'll also need to agree on a site (say, mlb.com) that is "official" for stats. Same goes for position eligibility.

- Position eligibility - we'll need a rule for it. Not sure how mlb.com treats it - if a player can 'lose' a position mid-season, we should probably make a rule that gives people time to use the player in that position for another week, or until the end of the season or something.


These are just some suggestions! Not trying to play rule-maker, but having this all set up in advance gives us a huge opportunity to form a league that works. The less we have to change once we've started, the better.

I was referring to the farm draft. The roster draft can be more open, since it is a little more 'open.' I like how the FCHL worked with guys like Toews and Backstrom going in the auction, even though they hadn't played. I think it let people take a risk in a smart way, and stopped the initial draft from being an even bigger factor than it already is.

For roster eligibility - if we do choose specific positions, we can always just let people use them at any position. Most pools work that way. It'd be your own risk to take someone like Inge, knowing he is likely to lose Catcher eligibility (for example) in a year or two. It is one of the reasons to not have position-specific players.

I would be more than happy to help on calculating scores when needed. I know it's quite impossible for a single person or two to have every day after a game night available to just sit around and count up scores. So I think whenever it is needed, let me know and I'll tag in.

Also, I have a few things I'm going to comment on, but as it is a hockey/Lost/school work night I won't get to it until later.

Kudos Steve, this looks very good I'm glad you took the initiative. Trying to get the sheep herded in the other thread was not easy.


EDIT: I forgot every question/comment I had. The Afghanistan War and Lost will do that to you.

I propose we give Serge $0.50 off the entry fee for each Blue Jay he drafts.

lol..i like it

Maybe I am missing the issue here.

If we hold the Entry Draft, 7 rounds as you suggested, I would think we could choose anyone that has been drafted by an MLB team and not yet played in a MLB game.

Put down what you want the Entry Draft Rules to be like and then maybe I will not be confused. They way it is now


To be eligible for selection in the Entry Draft the player needs to fall into one of the following:

1. Played in A, AA, AAA last year or before.
2. Drafted by a MLB team in the 2009 Draft
3. Not played a game with their major league club


So I could choose a college kid, or a single A guy or even say Sizemore, the new 2B for the Tigers who has yet to play a single MLB game but will start this season on the roster.

That is what you are looking for right?

Wayne, you in?

That's a little personal.

Sorry, I read that wrong initially. Here would be my suggestion:

To be eligible for the entry draft, a player must have never played an MLB game AND

One of:
1. Played in A, AA, AAA last year or before.
2. Drafted by a MLB team in the 2009 Draft
3. Signed by a Major League team


For future years, maybe we should alter it to 10 games or less instead of 0...