Ok so i think i may not have had my hud going or something, can't find the exact hand history to convert but i remember the bet sizing and reads, this happened last night but i wanted to save it for my 1000th post: here we go

* edit i had my hud going just can't find the flipping hand! oh well i remember it pretty well
$5 turbo 6 max donkament
blinds were i believe 25/50
hero is the button with an stack of about 4.5K or maybe 5k somewhere around there, so about a 60ish M. Villain has me covered.

Reads: table has been mostly lose passive, i have only played a tiny amount of hands and just went to value town so far. CO is limptastic and has called a decent amount of 3 bets for the small sample so far, seems to play very newbish postflop. Has a VP of around 60, zero pfr, something like a 20 af, over like 30ish hands, 35ish hands.

Action:
Preflop:75
folds to hijack who open limps, co limps, i look down at KQ suited and pop a bet for about 8 BB (slightly over the pot), folds back to co who flats, no suprise there. I have him on almost any small to medium PP, broadways, single High card medium kicker, suited connectors, a very wide variety of things.

Flop: 800
j85 2 diamonds
Action to villain who checks, and decide he would have donked almost any decent J, fire a cbet for 500, villain flats

Turn: 1800
offsuited A
I decide this is a great card. Now any weakish jacks hate life, and i believe that i can rep Aj here a lot. Also, i kinda am semibluffing i guess, and i am pretty sure he never c/r's me here bc he plays so passive and weak, he checks to me and i fire a second barrel for 850 totally expecting to take the pot down a ton of the time here, he calls.

At this point im about ready to give up on the hand, a 10 is the only thing that could in theory save me.

River: 3500
7 diamonds
Im very interested now, i assume whatever he is floating me with, it most likely wasn't a flush draw, he still could have J blank, wierd PP, whatever it is most likely it hates to see a flush draw fill out, and AGAIN he checks, i stick to my read that his range HHAATTESSS this river, and that he isn't a good enough player to c/c anything but weakish hands, fire a 3rd barrel for 2k. The bet sizing imo was very important. I need to look like i was trying to max out my value on this river, also it kinda looks like i am trying to induce a shove over me for what i got left, about 1.8K or so. villain instantly folds, and i take down a very nice pot.


Now what factors went into this:
*My reads about villain, i can only do this with reads postflop. I had some showdown value, but i decided to keep up the aggression and see where it takes me
*POSITION!!!!,.. THE MAIN REASON I CAN EXPLOIT VILLAINS RANGES SO WELL HERE IS BC I HAVE POSITION, it got me a nice size pot
* image, dont forget, i had shown down only a few hands, and i was aggro as hell and had it when i did, villain may be bad, but i figure he is paying some attention and due to my 3 bet pre, he has to believe i am very strong on the river

Also i really wanna point out:
I had a legit hand pre, and the bluff was as result of anaylizing each street and comparing the action before that street and the board texture to each street. I didnt plan on pounding each street, i came to the conclusion on each street past the cbet that the texture was right to execute this. Always keep that in mind when thinking about doing this.

Side note, i think i have my stack slightly smaller then it truly was, it is close but it may have even been at about 5.5K or so, idk. I do realize it was a pretty big move, but im showing it to be an example of villains range considerations on each street.

Overlimp or 5x pre, 8x is silly.


7d completes a ton of stuff. If you think he can fold a jack then I guess the 3 barrel might be justifiable. It's close. I'd probably check it back and laugh when he shows QT.

To be honest, it's really hard to see what he calls the turn with and folds on the river. I wouldn't be surprised if QT is a decent part of his range. Guess it could be a 1 pair hand of some kind you got him to fold.

I think I like the 2 barrel and I dislike the 3 barrel.

Rumsey you know enough by now to not include results. The fact that villain folded will color our analysis.

Im with Hi-Star, I hate the third barrel. Why do you assume villain didnt have a diamond draw? It's not like it backdoored in or anything. And a lot of your range will be checking that river behind. You're polarizing your range with that river bet.

And yes, there's no reason to do 8x.

Without taking results into account I really don't think you get a fold enough to justify the 3rd barrel, and you do have a tiny amount of showdown value. I can see him having diamonds (although there's a chance he just donks out with a flush), I can't see him folding a hand on the river that he calls on the turn very often. I think a lot of the one pair hands just fold the turn. You're left targeting Jx and that's about it.

The 2nd barrel, and for that matter even the flop c bet are purely stylistic. I'm not a huge barreler but I think they're fine here.

Also, I think you're giving him too much credit to be able to think too. Someone who limp/calls check/call check/calls probably sucks and can't hand read well.

The 7d might change the board in your mind but it probably won't in his. He won't think about your hand, he'll just be thinking about his.

really? if you were in his shoes and donk limp called, could you call this river with lets say: J9, J10, QJ kinda hands? i dont think so. and that imo makes up a lot of a limp call range from a bad player, kinda decent hands but they dont bet bc they dont know how to play it. I was thinking the whole time i had him on a weakish J or worst.

def. possible

and secondly, i had seen him lay down a decent amount of hands postflop, seems like he would fold a street or 2 too late


************** I guess my thing is, what hands does he have besides weak J's, silly under pocketpairs, or just unlucky to run into a flush?

Not sure you want to be 3 barrelling a donk. His range is so wide and the fact you missed everything (assuming yuor KQ wasn't diamonds) makes me not like it much. BUT...you had position and reads, I suppose, so all danger aside, if you think he's folding whatever pair he hit with a crappy kicker, then this line is certainly justified.

Also, I respectfully submit that KQ is NOT a legit hand PF, but maybe it's because I'm in a nitty mood.

I'm raising KQs in position over limpers at every chance possible.

Wow, what site do you play on? I would love to play with you as often as possible. You bet way too much on every street and had no concern that you were being smooth called. Just because you won the hand does not matter. You're supposed reads and position should be thrown out the window when you are smooth called on two consecutive streets. You know what my read was, you overcommitted yourself and your opponent has an absolute monster and you're just diving right in. I mean really, what did you think he was calling you with. Just because you had a fish at the table and won the hand doesn't mean you played it well at all. Any decent player would have smooth called you w/a strong ace, big pocket pair or flush draw. Instead, you ignore all of these logical possibilities for the least likely scenario that he has smooth called over 3k chips w/air. But in the end, something tells me that this is nowhere near how the actual hand played out. I don't know any players that smooth call that many chips w/out a monster.

Wow, what site do you play on? I would love to play with you as often as possible. You bet way too much on every street and had no concern that you were being smooth called. Just because you won the hand does not matter. You're supposed reads and position should be thrown out the window when you are smooth called on two consecutive streets. You know what my read was, you overcommitted yourself and your opponent has an absolute monster and you're just diving right in. I mean really, what did you think he was calling you with. Just because you had a fish at the table and won the hand doesn't mean you played it well at all. Any decent player would have smooth called you w/a strong ace, big pocket pair or flush draw. Instead, you ignore all of these logical possibilities for the least likely scenario that he has smooth called over 3k chips w/air. But in the end, something tells me that this is nowhere near how the actual hand played out. I don't know any players that smooth call that many chips w/out a monster.