Just wanted to get this posted as quick as possible to drive my liberal friends to the jug early this morning.

http://www.newsrealblog.com/2010/02/20/vid...ech/#more-34921

I really liked the speech. It was hokey at times, and a couple of the flippant Tiger Woods references I could have done without, but overall I agreed with almost all of what he said.

I really like that he called out the Republican Party.

"It's not enough just to not suck as much as the other side"

Glenn Beck is not a conservative. If liberals wanted to create a media character that could harm the conservative cause as much as possible by spewing pseudo-conservative positions, they would create Glenn Beck.

What do you base this on? I read all the time in these forums what a tool Beck is, but no one ever actually says why.

First, I haven't watched a lot of him, so maybe I'm off on this. But what I've seen of him, he is a clown, but not the funny kind. He needs a red nose and big shoes. Doing the clown bit without the outfit is just silly.

Second, he doesn't seem to have any principle except "Democrats suck". He'll say anything as long as it disagrees with the Democrats, even if it is contradictory to previous stances he has taken.

Third, he just says inflammatory things just to rile people. Now, Rush does the same thing, but Rush can back his statements up and starts with a connection to reality. Beck doesn't seem to have any grounding for his inflammatory remarks.

I would disagree with this characterization of Beck. I haven't seen him all that much myself, but what I have seen he has been spot on, and very willing to back up his arguements with facts. I am not saying he is perfect, I don't really like his style, all the crying and such, but I do think it comes from true passion about what he is talking about and believes.

Your description above fits Shawn Hannity to a tee, but not Glenn Beck, at least not from what I have seen. Watch the speech he gave. You will find some good stuff. You will also find plenty to critisize, but I don't think you would call him a clown after watching it. I may be wrong, I would be curious to hear what you think.

please.

All right, I watched.

1. I watched Glenn Beck for an hour.

2. He is quite a performer. His pace, his presence, he really can bring it.

3. I agreed with the speech. Yes, that's right, Glenn Beck spoke for an hour and I can't pick it apart.

4. Several of the regulars here will enjoy his discussion about small businessmen and college.

5. My favorite part was that they kept scrolling the results of the straw poll, which apparently brought boos from the attendees when it was first announced.

Glen Beck is not an idiot. He just plays one on TV and makes millions doing it. outrageousness sells. He is perfectly capable of making sense but a lot of what he rants about on his show is some tinfoil hat crazy talk.

Yeah, that's where I got my original impression -- links to his lunatic stuff.

Glenn Beck is a fiscal conservative. He naturally attacks Democratic policies more then Republicans…the Democrats tax, spend and waste more. He also attacks some of the stupid don’t tax but continue to spend Republicans…who are well deserving of the attacks.\



The guy who I find very interesting is Rush’s sub Mark Stien, i think? He is a guy I don’t know a much about but seems to have some great observations.

I had not watched Glen Beck's program before he came to Fox News (go figure)

Glen Beck's "outrageousness" is pulling back the curtain on Obama's appointee's and their links to marxism,communism and all of the other ism's.

He gone in depth thru the history of "progressivism" in the United States

I am sure you can find a "outrageous" things he has said, but if you had a TV Show and a Radio show and talked for 4+ hours a day... They would find a good soundbite on you too. Glen Beck also openly admits when he is wrong.

Does Glen Beck Cry too much? yeah probably, is it real... Who knows.. Does he use a funny voice to underscore his points.. sure..


The speech to CPAC was vintage Glen Beck (from Fox).

Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counteract ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage.

Oooh, oooh, pick me....



That is one thing I like about him, his acting skills are superb. He really is a showman.

I think even if I had a tv show and talked on the record all the time I could manage to avoid accusing a half-white president of hating white people.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ndc2LX2u98


Like I said, he can talk in a perfectly rational manner when he wants to but half of his appeal is in his outrageousness. And some of these things are really outrageous not "outrageous"

Still waiting on the arrival of those FEMA camps....

So sad to watch...

I turned on the first video and the band Muse was playing, so I immediately had to turn it off. I'm trying to build up the courage to jump in once again, but it'll be difficult.

Also, just to be fair and balanced, I think we need both sides of this story:

http://www.theonion.com/content/video/vict...al_car_accident

There is nothing I enjoy more than watching people from the left who lay claim to compassion and caring show their true colors by their hatred they focus on a person who they disagree with.


Quick, take a shot at Sarah Palin's retarded son, it's okay..you guys are for universal health care.

I only support hatred when it's funny, or in general when it's aimed at Glen Beck.

So, is it just me, or does he come across as the leader of a cult in this speech? I'm one video in, and now he's onto bashing Theodore Roosevelt for being a progressive.

Yes he is...and doing a fine a job of it.

What an awesome speech. He hit it way out of the yard.

I'm not sure what you mean by this. Do you disagree that TR was a progressive?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Roosevelt

Or that the history of progressivism is relevant to our current situation?

No, he absolutely was a progressive. I think he was a great President and a great thinker, and I think that if you're taking up issues with Teddy Roosevelt you are a) about 100 years too late and b) aren't necessarily going to win over too many converts, since Roosevelt is a pretty popular guy.

Yeah, the other Roosevelt is pretty popular among people who don't study history, too.

It's important to know how we got to the point where every American is in debt for almost as much as the median family income. Teddy certainly was a small offender in the grand scheme, but I think it's interesting to know who did what and when. And it's also interesting to see the patterns -- the name changes, the excuses for why we need just this one little bit of socialized something or other. Yes, the slippery slope matters, because we're reaching the bottom now.

Yeah, and..
He was also gay..

Okay, I'm stopping now. This is officially all drivel. I'm frightened if one can't see that this is drivel. Sorry. I made it almost 40 minutes in.

For those who for some reason watched this, I recommend the following video to cleanse your mental pallett (pun intended!):

http://www.prefixmag.com/media/owen-pallet...bc-video/37300/

Almost as enjoyable as watching the un-PC party trip over themselves to rant against a cartoon show that offends 90% of people 100% of the time. What I took away from Palin's whining is that Rush Limbaugh can call people retards, but a Democrat cannot. Good to know.

Well, I have to agree, it's not philosophically deep or anything. But a lot of people who have been apathetic about politics have just been roused out of their apathy by the last few years of insanity, and so a speech like this plays an important role -- it allows people to see they are not alone in just wanting to be left alone.

Ten years ago, the MSM dutifully reported the press releases from government, and people didn't think about it too much. Now, we can no longer afford to let the buffoons in Congress keep going unchecked. Glenn Beck is sort of the Beginner's Guide to Small Government. Everyone's gotta start somewhere. Eventually people move on to somewhat more scholarly sources.

I know you're looking for a popular figurehead to spark your libertarian movement. It's not Glenn Beck. Don't get desperate.

Perhaps you missed my original comments on him.

He's not a leader, he's just an entertainer who happened to give a decent Liberty 101 speech. Now he can go back to his TV show.

And BTW, liberty is the natural state of humanity. We don't need a leader, just patience while the statists show their true colors.

Man is born free, but is everywhere in chains. Where have I heard that before...





Yeah, also, I'd take it easy with the term "statist." At least for now. Some people are angry at THIS government, but most of them support the idea of government in general, even if they don't know it.

And this would be enough evidence to show that your blinders make your opinion equal to your states ability to master the difficult punch card voting system.

Not very high

Check the direction of history. It's been in one direction for a long time now, except for localized exceptions, such as the US for the last 9 years.



I use "statist" to refer to a very specific belief -- the belief that humans need the care of bureaucrats to succeed, as compared to the belief that humans will succeed given ample freedom and rule of law.

For example, someone who thinks that we need a federal bureaucrat to help us buy insurance is a statist. Someone who believes that federal bureaucrats need to decide which companies should succeed and which should fail is a statist. Someone who believes that I will ruin my life if left to engage in peaceful activities in the privacy of my home is a statist.

I know lots of people support that, but their days are numbered. History is not on their side.

This is always pointed out as evidence of Beck's evilness, but what it is really evidence of is the complete double standard liberals have when it comes to race. How many democratic leaders have called Bush, Reagan, ect Racist? If all the people that have falsely accused republican politicians/presidents of being racist were disqualifed from running for office then the democratic party would be extinct.

Now, I don't think Obama hates white people, I suspect Beck doesn't really believe that either, but there is a Hell of a lot more evidence to support that (Reverend Wright and Bill Ayers) than when democrats throw around their racist accusations.

Aw man you missed his Statue of Liberty Speech? Do a couple of shots and give it another chance.

The chickens are coming home to roost!

These comments are so outrageous given the context Glen used here.. but I am assuming you heard him call Obama a racist and didn't listen to the rest of the 10 minutes.

I would invite you to spend a hour in Jeremiah Wright's church in Chicago... I'll take you there a drop you off - That place is one of the most "racist" places in the country - but it isn't ok to say that.. now is it...

I don't understand why everyone is so against racism.

Saying Glenn Beck is "no worse" than Jeremiah Wright or Bill Ayers is not exactly a ringing endorsement is it?

I don't recall saying 'the left has no one as crazy as Glenn Beck'.

I recall saying that Glenn Beck is a smart guy and a talented performer who has a penchant for saying some things that are WAY out there. WAY WAY out there. That is all.

Yeah, and that's why I can't watch him and don't encourage others to watch him. Having someone who is only partly crazy as a spokesman is not really helpful for your case.

The only consolation is that, as you point out, the left has it's share of loonies, too. For example, Harry Reid just said that unemployment is bad because it makes men beat their wives. I think he was just making excuses for himself for the day after November elections.

LOL - twist away

glen beck called obama a racist citing jeremiah wright and other examples

Yeah beck is the crazy guy who wants smaller government - so way way way out there

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/08/g...a_n_184692.html


On his show Monday, Glenn Beck enlisted the help of Popular Mechanics to debunk an internet rumor that the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) operates concentration camps in the United States.

Beck, known for his apocalyptic views, had come under fire for mentioning FEMA camps, though he claims to have always doubted their existence and promised to either show viewers the camps or prove that they didn't exist.

Monday, he appears to have done the latter.

Beck hosted Popular Mechanics editor-in-chief James Meigs, who reported that, based on his magazine's independent investigation, videos on the internet said to have been of FEMA concentration camps actually included footage of an Amtrak repair facility in Beach Grove, Indiana. The video reportedly comes from a woman tied to Timothy McVeigh's militia group.

"There is enough out there," Beck said. "We don't need to make stuff up."

That's his go to move. Say something ridiculous (like Obama has a deep seated hatred for white people). Then, spend next 10 minutes sorta kinda backpedaling from previous ridiculous statement. End by assuring viewers you are just asking questions in the search of truth. If come under fire later for said outrageous conduct, claim to have always doubted the existence of the thing you yourself brought up.

It's genius in a really twisted way.

I believe he encourages people and even the white house to correct him on any errors he makes because he knows he will make a few from time to time

he is so so way out there with that

The Answers