first off, i am in now way a seahawks fan, but I do respect them seeing as they are a west coast team.

I didn't see a thread so I thought that I'd start one. One question, do you think that the seahawks can return to a playoff team under Carroll? His track record in the NFL isn't that great.

discuss.

There was a thread but I think I was the only one on here who was a fan...lol, so i let it die.

I thought they were a team that could compete for the NFC west this season but boy was i wrong. I like what they did in going in a way diffrent direction as it became apparent that this is a tear down and rebuild job. They need to rebuild there O line pretty much from scratch, they need a new LT, LG and C for sure. There ok at WR and Hasslebeck can get it done if he has the running game to keep them honest.

there D was the biggest let down this year imo. The LB core was supposed to be among the best in the NFL but with injuries to Tatupa and Hill they never really played much together. Curry was a dissapointment, he misses alot of open field plays and looks slow at the NFL level. Up front there D line needs wprk too, Kerney will probally be cut and they need a bonafide pass rusher at DE. I actually think there decent a corner when healthy, Trufant and Wilson. I would love to see Berry fall to them at 6 to give them a awesome safety to complement and improve all aspects on that side of the ball.

As for the rebuild I would like them to address the O line through FA if possible and address other needs in the draft where they have #6,14 and 38. Lindell White expressed intrest in coming to Seattle to join Carroll. He would be a good compliment to Justin Forsett who looked real good down the stretch but he is probaly a guy who needs a very good platoon mate for durability issues. David Hawthorne filled in very well for Lofa but he isnt required unless they move to a 3-4 which looks unlikely as there is talk that Gus Bradley is returning at DC, o Hawthorne could be used in some kind of deal(I think Lofa is safe with his college coach running the show).

I think Arizona if they lose Warner wil miss next year but I feel its the 49ers division for a few years anyway, especially if they have a good offseason. I think the Seahwks if all goes well should be a winning team again with 2 good offseasons in a row.

we'll be fine once we get a new QB, O-line, RB, receivers, D-line and secondary.

We got punting locked up:)

and tight end.

hired a GM today too, vp of football operations from Green Bay

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/seah...seahawksgm.html

mony and coug, you're def not the only Hawks fans on this board. I've been a season ticket holder for going on 5 seasons now, been a fan pretty much my whole life. My girlfriend even works for the team (as well as the Sounders/WaMu Theater/Qwest Field, in facilities management).

IMO, the Coach Fredo era will only work if he surrounds himself with coaches and coordinators that can actually coach, like he did at USC. He started good by grabbing Alex Gibbs to be his o-line coach. Not sure about Gus Bradley as DC, but he probably deserves at least another year to prove himself (or not). Don't know much about Jeremy Bates as OC either, but willing to give him a chance. Would love to see them bring Zorn back as QB coach.

I wasn't super psyched about the hiring (would've rather had us actually go after Leslie Frazier, honestly), and I think hiring a coach before a GM is dumb as shit. That being said, I'm definitely interested to see what we do with the draft this year, and say what you will about Pete Carroll as a coach, but you can't knock the dude's enthusiasm.

In summary, Go Hawks. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go cry into my Cortez Kennedy jersey.

completely agree with the bolded sections. love that you have a Tez jersey too

Yikes Brandon Marshal is in Seattle talking contract. If the sign him to an offer sheet it will cost them the #6 pick. Way to much for a problem child who is 1 strike away from a year suspension. I would concider maybe Branch and a conditional 2nd in 2011 if he keeps his nose clean. I think this team needs to rebuild not throw an impact player in the mix to finish 8-8.

do you think their will be a player at #6 as good as Brandon Marshall? I think he would help out the hawks, and yes, he does have those off the field issues, and yes he is one slip up away from being banned for a year, but a player with his talent is a must have, imo.

Yea problem is though Hasselbeck doesnt/wont have the time for Marshall to run his routes. There O line is pathetic and thats where they should start on that side of the ball. Okung probally will be gone at 6 though but I am hoping Berry/Okung at 6 and a pass rusher or Bulaga at 14. Baltimore only gave up a 3 and 4 for Boldin so a 2 and Branch(who Mcdaniels apparently wants) should suffice.

Yikes they traded #40 in the 2nd and a 3rd in 2011 for #60 in the second and SD's third string qb???? Then they gave him a 2 year 10 million dollar deal!!!!!!!!!

Wow, thats a lot to give up for Charlie Whitehurst! I guess they see something they really like.....

Its bizzare. They are sending out mixed signals by doing nothing in free agency. The qbs in the draft havent had there pro days yet so you think they might want to take a look at them before making this move. Hasselbeck has 1 year left under contract so he will probally be the starter so you are paying 10 million for a back up and potential starter a year from now. If he does pan out he is a FA at the end of his first starting year. They have to many holes to fill to be competitive in the next 2 years. Now watch them trade #14 for Brandon Marshall who will be on the decline(if not gone due to suspension) by time they are competing again. Not impressed with the new regime so far.

Honestly, Marshall for #14 is not so bad.....they might as well get Whitehurst some big, big help. Marshall strikes me as a guy who will behave as long he gets the money he wants.

I saw that kid they traded for play a lot in college (clemson). he has a good amount of talent, but he needs to get experience and learn and he will be legit.

plus i would give up my #14 pick for marshall and give him lots of $$ to keep him happy. he is the best WR in the NFL, imo.

Not doubting Marshall's talent but i think its more of a move when your close. Seahakws are far from close and need multiple peices on both sides. I think they need a LT before anything else on O and need alot of help on D line and secondary.

true.

Heard maybe Seattles(actually the Chargers) 2nd rounder and a 4th might get it done for Marshall. That I would do instantly.

+1, and, DAMNIT!!!! I dont want to face brandon twice a year.

Gotta figure if thats an acceptable price for Denver more teams are gonna get involved though. If they could come out of this off season with Mccoy or Berry and a solid O line prospect from the mid 1st pick along with Marshal I think thats a big win. Even though they overpaid for whitehurst.

OMG Leroy Hill arrested again for domestic violence. Cut this phsyco loose please.

Kerney is retiring. Hill will probably get some sort of suspension or maybe released. D is looking thin and isn't very good to begin with. come on draft!!!!

The dream would be Suh or Mccoy at 6 but probally gonna be Okung. Trade down a bit from 14 and get Taylor Mays is my prediction.

I think OT at 6 for sure, then trade down from 14 but I think they're gonna go after Claussen. Peter King said he "knows for a fact that Seattle covets Claussen". I'll be pretty bummed out if they take Claussen

I also think this draft is going to be pretty crazy with trades all over the place. should be fun

If thats the case the Whitehurst trade is even more of a headscratcher.

agreed. Whitehurst is kind of a headscratcher regardless. pretty sure Hass is gone after this year either way.

I can't imagine what would make us "covet" Claussen anyway. not a fan

The players on their phones kinda takes the drama away from the draft.

Like the 2 picks. Nothing flashy just 2 guys rated 1 or 2 at their position in the draft at positions of great need. Pierre-Paul would have been a sexy pick but at Seattles stage of rebuilding a gamble probally wasnt optimal strategy.

yeah Philly passing on Thomas was a blessing. good job so far

Clausen might be available at 60. Not really but qb's sure can slide if there not cant miss.

what about that LeFeouvre(spelling nowhere near correct) from western michigan or wherever? get him in the 4th?

lol at denver

I think Lefevour can be had later than the 4th. Hell Clausen could be there in the 2nd for the Hawks. (not sure if they still have their 2nd)

edit - I see they only have pick 60 in the 2nd, don't think Clausen will be there, but who knows. What about Colt McCoy at 60, that's possible?

yeah i was just looking at the best available qb's, he's quite a ways down the list(according to espn). our 2nd is now the 60th, we traded the 40th to SD for whitehurst and the 60th

we need a rb, project qb, and the rest spread out to OL and DL. 7 picks left. i'm pretty stoked so far

Thomas and Okung is pretty solid.

what about Claussen to minnesota? would make sense(3 minutes on the clock for them)

With the list of available players it sure would have been nice picking 40th instead of 60th.

Minnesota's 100 percent getting claussen.. that's why they traded down. They knew Indy, NO and StL didn't need a qb, so it was safe to trade.


I think the hawks should get the skelton guy in the 3rd round... He's from fordham, and is going to take alot of work, but he's 6-5, 225 with a huge arm, can make all the throws... I think he's a better prospect than all these schlubs besides bradford

no doubt. especially if Mays is there at 40....could have had the 2 of the top 3 safety's in the draft and not have to worry about that position for a few years. woulda been incredible

Hawks had a pretty sweet first round though, all the talking heads on espn are giving them A's.

heh this is the guy I actually had in mind. A fantastic cover safety in the first and a big athletic SS in the second.

hell, he might be there at 60. Claussen might be there too.

hmmm

Maybe 100 percent was too strong.

Damn I was hoping Gerhart might slip to 60.

Pass rush is such a screaming need they probally go in that direction. Everson Griffen?

was just about to say that. if he's there definitely.

meh another small receiver. Hopefully this is the one the breaks through and becomes a top 2 guy. Branch is probally gone now.

it was either best de, wr or rb available i think and Tate graded out best probably. he's solid, i'm stoked with our draft so far

Not that I disagree in this particular case, but they almost always give top grades to teams with multiple first round picks. Except the Broncos

Good trade. Excelent value for moving down 7 spots in the 4th and 9 spots in the 6th. Good change of pace from Forsett.