trystero
Monday, November 23rd, 2009, 2:23 PM
pf is loose as I'm oop, but villains have been kinda aggro so I wanted to flop something and try and get it in. maybe a flawed thought process...
Full Tilt Pot-Limit Omaha, $0.02 BB (4 handed) -
Full-Tilt Converter Tool from
FlopTurnRiver.comButton ($1.94)
Hero (SB) ($2.01)
BB ($2.49)
UTG ($1.84)
Preflop: Hero is SB with 4

, Q

, K

, Q
UTG bets $0.07, Button calls $0.07, Hero calls $0.06,
1 foldFlop: ($0.23) 6

, 5

, 10
(3 players)Hero checks, UTG checks,
Button bets $0.23,
Hero raises to $0.92,
rrumsey
Monday, November 23rd, 2009, 2:52 PM
ugh! why don't we just call and reevaluate and fold turn when we don't pick up at least a st8 draw. i see no real value in raising
dingas
Monday, November 23rd, 2009, 5:03 PM
I don't hate the check raise, but by playing this way you'll end up stacking off a lot with 30-40% equity. You make up for this when the checkraise takes the pot down. I guess it's +EV, but I'm not convinced it's optimal.
trystero
Monday, November 23rd, 2009, 6:34 PM
I just hate calling a PSB OOP w/this hand - non-nut draw and a fragile overpair - when I feel I have too much equity against aggro players to c/f
trystero
Monday, November 23rd, 2009, 7:04 PM
I did quick ev calcs w/35% equity and 40% equity, and assuming villain folded 30% of the time (which is kinda optimistic imo), and in both cases the move is slightly -EV
looks like I made a mistake, one of many
dingas
Tuesday, November 24th, 2009, 2:46 PM
Yeah I guess the problem with this play is that when the money goes in you're never a big favorite, and sometimes you're completely crushed (higher overpair with fd). With Aces and a flush draw, the play would make more sense because sometimes you're a dominating favorite and you're never worse than 30-70.
It's a tough hand to play out of position - that's why they suggest folding this hand preflop.
Adam_g
Sunday, December 6th, 2009, 8:27 AM
folding preflop would make this hand much easier for you - once you call - on the flop you remember why you don't take a shot with that hand there :-) and then say - arg why did I do that
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