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November 17, 2009

Lawmakers Slam Administration for Faulty Job Data on Government Web Site

FOXNews.com

The government Web site -- Recovery.gov -- is under fire for posting a number of jobs created in congressional districts that don't exist and for accepting unrealistic data from several reporting outlets.

The Web site is supposed to track the impact of stimulus spending. (Recovery.gov)

The Democratic chairman of the House Appropriations Committee is demanding greater accountability from the the Obama administration after gross inaccuracies were found on a government Web site that tracks jobs purportedly saved or created by the $787 billion stimulus plan.

But Rep. David Obey (D) of Wisconsin isn't against Congress spending more money for another jobs package next year, and said the mistakes undermine what has been an otherwise successful stimulus package.

In an interview with Fox News on Tuesday, Obey called the inaccuracies on Recovery.gov "infuriating" and said the success of the government's stimulus package has been "obscured by the silly mistakes.""In my judgment, someone who doesn't know which congressional district they're in doesn't have enough of a clue to receive taxpayer money in the first place," Obey said.

"When you put out information that turns out to be inaccurate, you shouldn't be surprised if the public says, 'Hey, do they know what they're doing?'" he added.

Recovery.gov is under fire for posting a number of jobs created in congressional districts that don't exist and for accepting unrealistic data from several reporting outlets.

For instance, the Web site reported that 30 jobs were saved or created with $761,420 of federal stimulus spending in Arizona's 15th Congressional District. One problem with the claim -- the state has only eight districts

The site also lists 12 other non-existent districts in Arizona where jobs were reportedly saved or created. It also lists imaginary districts in at least three other states, including Oklahoma, Iowa, and Connecticut.

One recipient of stimulus funds, Talladega County of Alabama, claimed that it had saved or created 5,000 jobs from only $42,000 in government money -- which would amount to $8.40 in annual income per job if each position received an equal amount of funding.

New Mexico Watchdog, a project of the Franklin Center for Government & Public Integrity, said in all, nearly $6.4 billion was used to "create or save" nearly 30,000 jobs in 440 non-existing districts, including in New Mexico's 4th, 22nd, 35th and 40th Districts. New Mexico has three Congressional Districts.

"When you cite the jobs created in congressional districts that don't exist, I think that strikes anyone from the White House on down as being more than stupid," Obey said.

G. Edward DeSeve, Obama's appointee to oversee the government's federal stimulus program, acknowledged the mistakes and said the White House is reviewing all reports with a "fine tooth comb" and working to correct inaccuracies.

In a blog posted to the White House Web site Monday, DeSeve said, "We fully agree with those who find the mistakes in the data frustrating -- and we've been working with the Recovery Board to find the mistakes and fix them.

"Just because mistakes are inevitable in any new system -- especially one this large, and this new -- doesn't mean they are acceptable," he said.

Donna Tommelleo, a spokeswoman for Connecticut Gov. M. Jodi Rell, added that Connecticut correctly reported its job data on the Web site, but errors were made by "entities other than state agencies and in at least one case -- jobs from a California congressional district -- were attributed to Connecticut."

"From the very onset of the stimulus legislation, the state of Connecticut has placed a premium on transparency, accountability and accuracy. These are taxpayer dollars for which the state has been entrusted and, as a result, has factually accounted for every dollar spent and justified every job created," Tommelleo said.

ABC News reported Monday that the White House slashed 60,000 jobs from its most recent report on the recovery program as a result of faulty data. Officials with the Recovery Board reportedly told the network that the mistakes were caused by human error.

"We report what the recipients submit to us," Ed Pound, communications director for the board, told ABC.

DeSeve also went on to downplay the impact of the mistakes, calling the inaccuracies "relatively few" and claiming they do not change the "fundamental conclusions one can draw from the data."

"Some of the mistakes are frustrating typos and coding errors that don't undermine information at the heart of the data," DeSeve wrote, adding that "transparency is going to be messy."

Obey said he believes the mistake will be used by Republicans to cast doubt on the effectiveness and credibility of the administration's stimulus plan.

"This will just be used by them to undermine the recovery package, which is one of the reasons it's so unfortunate," he said.

Just as Obey predicted, Republicans on Tuesday began using the news to poke fun at the stimulus plan they uniformly opposed in February.

Rep. Ginny Brown-Waite, R-Fla., issued a statement saying she went onto the Web site to see for herself how the money is being spent.

"I was alarmed to see that Democrats have spent $3,582,587 to create five jobs in Florida's 86th congressional district. In the fighting 53rd they spent $460,000 of your taxpayer dollars to create zero jobs," she said. Florida has 25 U.S. Congressional Districts.

"The truthiness of the claims is mind boggling," Brown-Waite added. "How can we expect the administration to run stimulus when they can't even run a Web site?"

Obey said the mistakes could fuel opposition to a possible second stimulus package, which he suggested he supports.

"I have no idea if there will be a (second) package, but you can put me down as someone who believes we should be doing more than what we're doing," he said.

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And these are the guys that want to run health care. bubble_lol.gif bubble_lol.gif
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Government is very efficient and will find savings
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Bogus Stimulus
by John Stossel
http://stossel.blogs.foxbusiness.com/2009/...bogus-stimulus/

Kudos to the Washington Examiner. They're keeping tabs on the Obama administration's phony stimulus claims. They've set up an interactive map that documents instances of government exaggeration-- or lies --over how many jobs were "created or saved" by the $787 billion stimulus package.

The Examiner has found that just over 10 percent of the jobs supposedly "created or saved" are bogus. I'm not surprised.

Here's the White House's reaction, or explanation, or excuse making. https://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2009/11/17/...re-recovery-act

Here are some particularly egregious examples from the Examiner:

Sacramento Bee: The California State University system received $268.5 million in stimulus funds and claimed that the money allowed them to save over 26,000 jobs. But when pressed, the University officials admitted they weren't really going to lay off half their workforce, and that in fact, few or none of these jobs would have been lost without the stimulus. "This is not really a real number of people," a CSU spokesman said. "It's like a budget number."

The New York Times: A $1,000 grant to purchase a single lawn mower [in Arkansas] was credited with saving 50 jobs.

Tacoma News-Tribune: Of the 34,500 jobs allegedly saved or created by the stimulus in Washington State, 24,000 belong to state teachers already under contract to finish out the school year, whose jobs were never in jeopardy ….

Atlanta Journal-Constitution: A joint venture [in Oklahoma] that received six military contracts counted the same 10 jobs six times.

Chicago Tribune: [S]timulus funds were said to have saved the equivalent of 382 full-time teaching jobs -- 142 more than the [Dolton, Ill.] district actually has.

Chicago Tribune: The city claimed to have saved the jobs of 473 teachers with its $4.7 million education stimulus grant. The [North Chicago] district employs only 290 teachers.

Greenville News: "The Greenville Housing Authority 'saved or created' 118 jobs by use of federal stimulus money, according to the Obama administration. The agency only has 35 employees."

Even if the jobs really were "saved or created", that's not real job creation. There is no new wealth created. All the stimulus did was shift resources to stimulus recipients, at a hidden cost. That money would have been spent or invested privately by other people if it hadn't been taxed away. It's Bastiat's broken window fallacy in a nutshell.



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Well you can't be down on those false job creations since Team Obama recently announce a REAL job creating strategy that will bring in jobs, schools, new libraries and basically save a town.

Here's Dick Durbin to explain:

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Eighteen hundred good-paying jobs with full benefit packages is a dream come true for many families in that part of the state. And then think of what those jobs lead to in terms of businesses, new schools, new hospitals, new libraries, new opportunities.


Here's what the AP said: ( you remember the AP, the people who assigned 11 people to find anything wrong with Sarah Palin's book they could find, no matter how petty or stretched it had to be ( they found 6 things in the 400+ page book))

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"In the midst of this recession, this is the good news we have been hoping for and waiting for and now we have to capitalize on it. The competition's on," Durbin told reporters Sunday. "It's a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity." ... The Democratic officials said the conversion could pump up to $1 billion into the local economy over four years and generate more than 3,000 jobs. That's potentially good economic news for the state that lost out on its bid to host the 2012 Summer Olympics.


Finally solid change is coming because of Team Obama and their internal struggle against the Washington machine that is trying to stop them for succeeding from bring Hope to the country.

Sure they failed to bring about the tax cuts they promised 95% of the country,

Sure they are in fact going to raise taxes on 100% of the country,

Sure he has failed to fulfill one promise he made to us before the election,

But THIS act will fulfill ALL his obligations to us.

Thank you Team Obama, for caring.


Oh yea..the job creating action Team Obama is implementing in order to save this town?
Bringing the Gitmo detainees here so they can have access to lawyers
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Inflated Stimulus Jobs Part 3: Phony Numbers Continue

swineline.org

Posted on November 13, 2009 by Roger Morse Despite a sustained rash of news articles that the 640,000 jobs that the Obama Administration claims it “saved or created” is as phony as a $3 bill, there appears to be a willful refusal to make any corrections on their website touting the success.

We pointed out that the Obama Administration had a problem with counting here, here and here.

Here are some more examples that have been brought to the attention of the Obama Administration that they continue to ignore. The reporters at the Sacramento Bee just scratched the surface of the numbers and look at what they found.

Up to one-fourth of the 110,000 jobs reported as saved by federal stimulus money in California probably never were in danger, a Bee review has found.

California State University officials reported late last week that they saved more jobs with stimulus money than the number of jobs saved in Texas – and in 44 other states.

California State University (CSU) system claimed they were only following the guidelines for reporting given them by the federal government.

They determined that CSU’s stimulus funds equaled the pay of roughly 26,000 full-time employees for the two months following the allocation, May and June, and reported that as the number of jobs saved.

Given CSU’s large payroll, the system would need to receive another $1 billion or more to keep funding those jobs for an entire year. But about half of the money California expects to receive under the State Fiscal Stabilization Fund – the stimulus dollars funding the university jobs – already has been spent.

In a follow-up article, Laura Chick, the California Inspector General for overseeing stimulus funds going to the state found more problems with stimulus money that went to the California Economic Development Department.

Chick said she will also look at job figures reported by the California Economic Development Department showing 12,000 FTE positions created through a skills training program. That program, Chick said she had been told, was not meant to create reportable jobs. “These were temporary jobs, just for the summer,” Chick said.

Reporters with the Boston Globe also uncovered phony job numbers. They found a number of problems.

While Massachusetts recipients of federal stimulus money collectively report 12,374 jobs saved or created, a Globe review shows that number is wildly exaggerated. Organizations that received stimulus money miscounted jobs, filed erroneous figures, or claimed jobs for work that has not yet started.

But in interviews with recipients, the Globe found that several openly acknowledged creating far fewer jobs than they have been credited for.

Some were simple exaggerations of the number of jobs created. Others were more incidious. The Obama Administration decided that funding received annually from an existing federal program could be shuffled to a stimulus bill program causing the miraculous saving of an existing job!

They found problems throughout the state of Massachusetts.

One of the largest reported jobs figures comes from Bridgewater State College, which is listed as using $77,181 in stimulus money for 160 full-time work-study jobs for students. But Bridgewater State spokesman Bryan Baldwin said the college made a mistake and the actual number of new jobs was “almost nothing.’’ Bridgewater has submitted a correction, but it is not yet reflected in the report.

There were more problems in housing stimulus money.

Massachusetts property owners received $75.5 million in rental subsidies from the stimulus bill, for a reported total of 437 jobs. Recipients of 27 of the 87 contracts reported zero jobs. The others, meanwhile, simply reported the number of employees working at the property. If they received two contracts, for a larger property, they reported the employee figure twice.

For example, Plumley Village East in Worcester listed 23 jobs for each of its two contracts for a total of 46 jobs, even though it has only 23 employees working throughout the complex.

Here is another example of Obama Administration bait-and-switch.

Robert Ercolini manages a 201-unit affordable housing development in Plymouth. After being notified his annual rental subsidies were classified as stimulus spending, Ercolini renewed a request to the US Department of Housing and Urban Development for more than $1 million to fix up the property, reasoning he would be creating jobs by hiring contractors. He was refused.

“After HUD denied me money to make needed improvements and actually create jobs,’’ Ercolini said, “it’s really funny to find out in September that I’ve been receiving stimulus funds all along and they want to know how many jobs we’ve saved or created.’’

By his count, the answer is: “No jobs.’’

This is curious because recovery.gov is reporting this project as “creating” 18 jobs eventhough the recipient specifically reported.

No new jobs created as Boston Office of HUD denied request to do infrastructure funding for critically needed replacements.

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