RISEorFall
Monday, November 16th, 2009, 11:14 PM
QUOTE (dingas @ Monday, November 16th, 2009, 7:05 PM)

My gut reaction is check. Probably call a bet on the turn but fold river unimproved if he bets again.
only 2 cards really improve us, the last T and K
this looks like a much better board for us than it really is. we have a set, but its bottom set and the other two set possibilities other people rarely fold preflop. theres also a potential straight, so we have the 4th nuts as it stands.
we have a flush draw, but its not the nut flush draw, and were blocking one of our own outs. we have a double straight draw, but the K is obvious and the 9 doesnt make us the nuts.
its a lot of stuff, and heads up or even 3 handed id like our hand a lot more. but 5 way? i dont want to fold yet, but i dont want to go nuts here either. 5 handed we can easily be up against a made straight, bigger flush draw, and a bigger set.
i'd check and reevaluate. if it's pot/raised/reraised we can easily fold. if it's bet/call well we can call but we should fold to later aggression unimproved (and sometimes when we do improve).
if theres a late position bettor we have an easy call (and maybe raise if we think we can be ahead and maybe fold out the nut flush draw, but without reads id be wary of this).
the turn is good and bad for us. we now beat a straight and dont have to worry about the nut flush. but we still lose to AA, JJ and now lose to AJ and JT, although we mostly block that being 5 handed we cant count it out, and something like KQJ9 now has a bunch of outs.
the best part of the turn is that we're heads up, and he didnt raise the flop so most likely he's on a draw. if we have a read that says he will chase even when the board pairs i'd throw out a 1/2 pot (or more, if he'll call it) sized bet. if not i'd check, were either way ahead of a flush draw/naked straight or way behind AA, AJ, and JJ. i'd call down though