RISEorFall
Tuesday, November 10th, 2009, 1:24 PM
QUOTE (rrumsey @ Tuesday, November 10th, 2009, 11:54 AM)

even a total donk knows they need to protect against the flush when they flop the current nuts
not necessarily
if i flop the nut straight w/ no redraws, and theres action on a real drawy board, its better to wait for a safe turn to pump it, and sometimes better to just fold it.
if theres lots of action, the possibility of someone else having the nuts is pretty big, and if we have no redraws that means either they probably do or someone else is drawing at some big hands. either way were on the bad side of a freeroll. if the best we usually can get is a split and theres a good chance we lose the whole thing, id rather fold even if i have the current nuts.
even HU, it wouldnt be awful to sorta slowplay/see a safe-ish turn before raising with a straight. if we have AAxx we're just folding anyway unless we have a flush draw/straight draw too. the minraise could be "i have a straight and dont want you to fold AAxx" or "i have a straight and dont want to raise too much if you have a boat, but i think my straights good" or it could be "i have the nuts and dont want you to fold"
the river bet screams better boat, but i hate folding. it would be tough for him to v-bet with less hoping you call with AAxx.