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digitalmonkey
Here is the prop bet proposal I made:


No odds. I'll give you 7.5 points. I would like the win in the event of a tie because i think Toronto's upcoming schedule is slightly easier than Montreal's. We will put the deadline at the end of Montreal's game against Washington on November 28th. That gives Toronto 12 games in the bet and Montreal 12 games in the bet.

Here is the schedule:

Toronto vs...
Nov 3rd - Tampa Bay LOST 2-1 OT
6th - @ Carolina WON 3-2
7th - Detroit WON 5-1
10th - Minnesota LOST 5-2
13th - @ Chicago LOST 3-2
14th - Calgary LOST 5-2
17th - @ Ottawa LOST 3-2
19th - @ Carolina LOST 6-5 SO
21st - Washington WON 2-1 OT
23rd - NY Islanders LOST 4-3 OT
25th - @ Tampa Bay WON 4-3
27th - @ Florida

Montreal vs...
Nov 3rd - Atlanta LOST 5-4
5th - @ Boston WON 2-1 SO
7th - Tampa Bay LOST 3-1
10th - Calgary LOST 1-0
12th - @ Phoenix WON 4-2
14th - @ Nashville LOST 2-0
17th - Carolina WON 3-2 SO
20th - @ Washington WON 3-2
21st - Detroit LOST 3-2 SO
24th - Columbus WON 5-3
25th - @ Pittsburgh LOST 3-1
28th - Washington

Running Total
Toronto 11
Montreal 11

$25.00 CDN...deal?

Here is who accepted:

serge $25
Dubey $25
mrdannyg $25
Dubey
booked. good luck
serge
QUOTE (Dubey @ Monday, November 2nd, 2009, 9:58 AM) *
booked. good luck


I think looking at the recent play of the Leafs and with the addition of the Monster fulltime and Kessel, it might be too easy a bet..

Ok i wont jinx it..

i really think we pass them before the end of the month.
digitalmonkey
QUOTE (serge @ Monday, November 2nd, 2009, 11:59 AM) *
I think looking at the recent play of the Leafs and with the addition of the Monster fulltime and Kessel, it might be too easy a bet..

Ok i wont jinx it..

i really think we pass them before the end of the month.


Another bet?
mrdannyg
Booked!

I was disappointed other people accepted the bet. I think we could've got 8.5 points instead of 7.5 tongue.gif

Kudos to Monkey though for proposing a bet that finishes with his team playing Washington. Very gentlemanly.
serge
QUOTE (digitalmonkey @ Monday, November 2nd, 2009, 10:11 AM) *
Another bet?

we are good for now
digitalmonkey
I predict Montreal will go 7-5 or 6-6 in the next 12 games. Toronto will go 5-7 at best.
sKIjaKuDa
GL to all of you because I just want it to be close so the trash-talking will be in full effect.

digitalmonkey
QUOTE (mrdannyg @ Monday, November 2nd, 2009, 12:17 PM) *
Booked!

I was disappointed other people accepted the bet. I think we could've got 8.5 points instead of 7.5 tongue.gif

Kudos to Monkey though for proposing a bet that finishes with his team playing Washington. Very gentlemanly.



FYI: re Adam's Yahoo Pool...

Canadian Gothic 35-21-8 78 points
Mustangs 26-27-11 65 points
mrdannyg
QUOTE (digitalmonkey @ Monday, November 2nd, 2009, 12:24 PM) *
I predict Montreal will go 7-5 or 6-6 in the next 12 games. Toronto will go 5-7 at best.


This is a terrible prediction. Without taking into account overtime/shootout losses, you are missing 30% of Montreal's points and 60% of the Leafs.

QUOTE (digitalmonkey @ Monday, November 2nd, 2009, 12:31 PM) *
FYI: re Adam's Yahoo Pool...

Canadian Gothic 35-21-8 78 points
Mustangs 26-27-11 65 points


Thank you, and thank you. I was trying not to rub in what seems to have been a disastrous Saturday for Serge. How many points does Adam have?
digitalmonkey
QUOTE (mrdannyg @ Monday, November 2nd, 2009, 12:58 PM) *
This is a terrible prediction. Without taking into account overtime/shootout losses, you are missing 30% of Montreal's points and 60% of the Leafs.



Thank you, and thank you. I was trying not to rub in what seems to have been a disastrous Saturday for Serge. How many points does Adam have?



What i'm saying is the Leafs won't get more than 10 points in the next 12 games. Montreal will get at least 12.

Adam: 30-26-8 68 points
ajs510
QUOTE (mrdannyg @ Monday, November 2nd, 2009, 12:58 PM) *
Thank you, and thank you. I was trying not to rub in what seems to have been a disastrous Saturday for Serge. How many points does Adam have?


68 points after a very good Week 4 where the Lost Cause went 11-3-2.
mrdannyg
QUOTE (ajs510 @ Monday, November 2nd, 2009, 1:04 PM) *
68 points after a very good Week 4 where the Lost Cause went 11-3-2.


wooot.
serge
QUOTE (digitalmonkey @ Monday, November 2nd, 2009, 10:04 AM) *
What i'm saying is the Leafs won't get more than 10 points in the next 12 games. Montreal will get at least 12.

Adam: 30-26-8 68 points


you are missing the main point that is clear as can be:

The Montreal Canadiens are a very bad team who has been getting lucky in overtime and shootouts.

The Toronto Maple Leafs are a superior team who needed time to figure some stuff out ie Vesa Toskala needs to change careers.


Also Phil Kessel(he of the 40 goal shot) will be back SOON, possibly tomorrow.

The Montreal Canadiens have only one win where they have won by more than one goal..That was against the Islanders.

Luck only goes so far.
digitalmonkey
QUOTE (serge @ Monday, November 2nd, 2009, 1:17 PM) *
you are missing the main point that is clear as can be:

The Montreal Canadiens are a very bad team who has been getting lucky in overtime and shootouts.

The Toronto Maple Leafs are a superior team who needed time to figure some stuff out ie Vesa Toskala needs to change careers.


Also Phil Kessel(he of the 40 goal shot) will be back SOON, possibly tomorrow.

The Montreal Canadiens have only one win where they have won by more than one goal..That was against the Islanders.

Luck only goes so far.



You are missing the bigger point...Montreal continues to do well in OT and SO and Toronto continues to suck in OT and SO. Why do you continue to consider this luck? It would be the same as claiming someone is lucky when their pocket 8s beats your AK more often than not.


"The Montreal Canadiens have only one win where they have won by more than one goal."

LOL...the Leafs only have ONE win!
serge
QUOTE (digitalmonkey @ Monday, November 2nd, 2009, 10:26 AM) *
You are missing the bigger point...Montreal continues to do well in OT and SO and Toronto continues to suck in OT and SO. Why do you continue to consider this luck? It would be the same as claiming someone is lucky when their pocket 8s beats your AK more often than not.


"The Montreal Canadiens have only one win where they have won by more than one goal."

LOL...the Leafs only have ONE win!


And to top it off we have the same amount of losses...7...

The shootout wins and OT wins arent really wins..They are just glorified ties that the NHL decided to give points away for...We dont have luck, so we lose these glorified bonus points.

It will even out soon enough...

Your poker analogy is very good actually...We have been losing a ton of coinflips this year...Just because you get a lucky break and win shootouts doesnt mean you are better..

this bet we made is the easiest bet i have made so far..

The coalition(me , Danny and Dubey) are gonna crush you.
mrdannyg
QUOTE (serge @ Monday, November 2nd, 2009, 1:17 PM) *
you are missing the main point that is clear as can be:

The Montreal Canadiens are a very bad team who has been getting lucky in overtime and shootouts.

The Toronto Maple Leafs are a superior team


Seriously Dale...how could you have missed that?
digitalmonkey
QUOTE (serge @ Monday, November 2nd, 2009, 1:34 PM) *
And to top it off we have the same amount of losses...7...

The shootout wins and OT wins arent really wins..They are just glorified ties that the NHL decided to give points away for...We dont have luck, so we lose these glorified bonus points.

It will even out soon enough...

Your poker analogy is very good actually...We have been losing a ton of coinflips this year...Just because you get a lucky break and win shootouts doesnt mean you are better..

this bet we made is the easiest bet i have made so far..

The coalition(me , Danny and Dubey) are gonna crush you.



The points Montreal earned for winning the OTs and SOs are glorifired bonus points but the points Toronto earned for losing the OTs and SOs are not...lol that just about sums up everything.
serge
QUOTE (digitalmonkey @ Monday, November 2nd, 2009, 10:40 AM) *
The points Montreal earned for winning the OTs and SOs are glorifired bonus points but the points Toronto earned for losing the OTs and SOs are not...lol that just about sums up everything.



You are wrong..The Leafs didnt get points for losing shootouts or OTs...We get the point for TIEing after 3 periods....The BONUS points we didnt get lucky on.

PIERRE AND REJEAN a CAC love story:



Pierre and Rejean at the Bell Centre Saturday night:

Pierre: Hey Rejean we are up by 2 lets start the NANANANA chant.

Rejean: Mon Ami its still tres early lets not jinx the boys.

Pierre: Early schmearly this is the Leafs they cant score one , let alone two.

Rejean: Ok Pierre, but i am scared and hopefully it wont ruin our perfect evening.

Pierre gets up and starts chanting:

NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA hey hey hey oh shit....

Rejean: See pierre they scored you jinxed them.

Pierre: Tabernac they got lucky they wont score again.

Leafs tie it up in the last minute.

Rejean: **** you Pierre, our love and relationship is over. You are going to sleep on the couch tonight. You jinxed our beatiful CAC night. NO **** for you tonight.

digitalmonkey
Some comments I can't wait to see halfway through the year when the Leafs are 7-22-12.

Burke: Are you guys crazy? We can't abandon our plan halfway through the season. That'd be frickin' ridiculous. Get the hell outta here...this press conference is over.

Serge: We've looked good so far. We should have won at least 20 of those games we lost.
coesillian
funny but could have been funnier. A for effort, C+ for execution.
serge
QUOTE (coesillian @ Monday, November 2nd, 2009, 11:00 AM) *
funny but could have been funnier. A for effort, C+ for execution.


ya could of spent more time on it...


Rejean and Pierre will be back.
Dubey
I thought it was pretty funny. The only problem I had was that one of the habs fans was actually rational and coherant, and that's just unrealistic wink.gif
serge
Nov 3rd - Tampa Bay Win 5-2
6th - @ Carolina Win 4-3
7th - Detroit Win 2-1
10th - Minnesota Win 6-1
13th - @ Chicago Lose 5-4
14th - Calgary Lose 4-3 OT
17th - @ Ottawa Win 5-1
19th - @ Carolina Win 4-2
21st - Washington Lose 6-3
23rd - NY Islanders Win 6-0
25th - @ Tampa Bay Win 5-1
27th - @ Florida Win 4-3 OT
Zach6668
9-2-1??????

lol
serge
QUOTE (Zach6668 @ Tuesday, November 3rd, 2009, 11:28 AM) *
9-2-1??????

lol


Yup..Its more realistic than the 1-7-0 start...

Check out the teams and there records..Very realistic
MapleLeafpoker
QUOTE (serge @ Tuesday, November 3rd, 2009, 1:27 PM) *
6th - @ Carolina Win 4-3

19th - @ Carolina Win 4-2


sounds like a bet!

I feel bad I still owe you a dinner for that pool.

Bet Proposal: 2 Game total pts series.
I win, I dont owe you dinner.
You win, I owe you entry into my playoff pool. (figure dinner is $20 at these bars, and pool is $40. double or nothing $20.)

what do you say? feel free to come back with a different payout.
Nashtak
QUOTE (serge @ Tuesday, November 3rd, 2009, 1:32 PM) *
Yup..Its more realistic than the 1-7-0 start...

Check out the teams and there records..Very realistic


I could be wrong here but you are basing your predictions on those teams result this season but then refuse to consider results to be any relevant when we mention the leafs terrible record so far. Seriously, if we compare only the records of Toronto and Detroit, Detroit will kill you, and if we overlook their record and just analyze those 2 teams based on their efforts or/and talents, Detroit will destroy you. Their only ? may be goaltending.

Datsuyk, Zetterberg, Lidstrom > rusty Kessel, Grabovski, Kaberle + Gustavsson who is yet to show he will be a consistent all-star goalie and not the next Carey Price (just like Stalberg was to prove he was going to be a ''superstar'').
serge
QUOTE (MapleLeafpoker @ Tuesday, November 3rd, 2009, 11:53 AM) *
sounds like a bet!

I feel bad I still owe you a dinner for that pool.

Bet Proposal: 2 Game total pts series.
I win, I dont owe you dinner.
You win, I owe you entry into my playoff pool. (figure dinner is $20 at these bars, and pool is $40. double or nothing $20.)

what do you say? feel free to come back with a different payout.


ok deal...

In the case of a tie, tiebreaker is Kessel vs your choice of Avalanche AHL style points.

I would say Staal but you might go with someone else..
MapleLeafpoker
QUOTE (serge @ Tuesday, November 3rd, 2009, 2:07 PM) *
ok deal...

In the case of a tie, tiebreaker is Kessel vs your choice of Avalanche AHL style points.

I would say Staal but you might go with someone else..


done.

I'll go with Whitney.

Good luck.
serge
QUOTE (MapleLeafpoker @ Tuesday, November 3rd, 2009, 12:25 PM) *
done.

I'll go with Whitney.

Good luck.


realized i posted Avalanche..Similar teams both natural disasters.

Good luck...
serge
QUOTE (serge @ Tuesday, November 3rd, 2009, 11:27 AM) *
Nov 3rd - Tampa Bay Win 5-2
6th - @ Carolina Win 4-3
7th - Detroit Win 2-1
10th - Minnesota Win 6-1
13th - @ Chicago Lose 5-4
14th - Calgary Lose 4-3 OT
17th - @ Ottawa Win 5-1
19th - @ Carolina Win 4-2
21st - Washington Lose 6-3
23rd - NY Islanders Win 6-0
25th - @ Tampa Bay Win 5-1
27th - @ Florida Win 4-3 OT


Thinking of running a monthly pool where we pick a team...Say Toronto, and we predict exact scores...You get points for a win, points for the correct scores and bonus for hitting all three.

Also can add winning goal scorer as well...

mrdannyg
1-0 Leafs!

WOOOOOOT

biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
serge
Just off the phone with a buddy of mine who works at a sportsbook in Vegas. I told him about this bet, he said we are a lock..

He would set the line at Leafs -4.5 pts for the month of November he said.

He is in town visiting, ill be going to dinner with him tonight. Ill try and share some cool stories, he always has them.
mrdannyg
QUOTE (serge @ Wednesday, November 4th, 2009, 11:04 AM) *
Just off the phone with a buddy of mine who works at a sportsbook in Vegas. I told him about this bet, he said we are a lock..

He would set the line at Leafs -4.5 pts for the month of November he said.

He is in town visiting, ill be going to dinner with him tonight. Ill try and share some cool stories, he always has them.


Ask him if bookies will try to set/adjust the lines such that the betting is even on both sides, or whether they will purpose leave or adjust a line such that heavy betting takes place on one side and are therefore 'betting' on the game.
digitalmonkey
QUOTE (mrdannyg @ Wednesday, November 4th, 2009, 10:15 AM) *
Ask him if bookies will try to set/adjust the lines such that the betting is even on both sides, or whether they will purpose leave or adjust a line such that heavy betting takes place on one side and are therefore 'betting' on the game.



You are assuming that Serge actually does have a friend who works at a sportsbook in Vegas.
serge
QUOTE (digitalmonkey @ Wednesday, November 4th, 2009, 8:25 AM) *
You are assuming that Serge actually does have a friend who works at a sportsbook in Vegas.


lol like i am going to make it up..

His name is Randall and works at the Luxor.
digitalmonkey
http://www.luxor.com/casino/casino_sportsbook.aspx

I'm seriously considering emailing Jeff and asking him if a Randall works there. I'm certain he would tell me because he values the chance to answer my questions.
serge
QUOTE (digitalmonkey @ Wednesday, November 4th, 2009, 8:32 AM) *
http://www.luxor.com/casino/casino_sportsbook.aspx

I'm seriously considering emailing Jeff and asking him if a Randall works there. I'm certain he would tell me because he values the chance to answer my questions.

lol do it..

I am sure he will validate that Randall(randy) works there.
serge
put it on the board....YES..

Leafs win...
serge
Looks like we will clinch this pretty soon..

LOL
serge
Dubey, Danny and I would like an update..

Who is winning??

Dubey
QUOTE (serge @ Tuesday, November 10th, 2009, 1:24 PM) *
Dubey, Danny and I would like an update..

Who is winning??



I don't know, maybe DigitalMonkey can update us?
serge
QUOTE (Dubey @ Thursday, November 12th, 2009, 7:35 AM) *
I don't know, maybe DigitalMonkey can update us?

he is MIA..

happens a lot when he is losing
fryer98
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeea, I'm bored on a Friday night.


Toronto vs...
Nov 3rd - Tampa Bay LOST 2-1 OT
6th - @ Carolina WON 3-2
7th - Detroit WON 5-1
10th - Minnesota LOST 5-2
13th - @ Chicago LOST 3-2
14th - Calgary
17th - @ Ottawa
19th - @ Carolina
21st - Washington
23rd - NY Islanders
25th - @ Tampa Bay
27th - @ Florida

Montreal vs...
Nov 3rd - Atlanta LOST 5-4
5th - @ Boston WON 2-1 SO
7th - Tampa Bay LOST 3-1
10th - Calgary LOST 1-0
12th - @ Phoenix WON 4-2
14th - @ Nashville
17th - Carolina
20th - @ Washington
21st - Detroit
24th - Columbus
25th - @ Pittsburgh
28th - Washington

Running Total
Toronto 5
Montreal 4
digitalmonkey
QUOTE (serge @ Thursday, November 12th, 2009, 10:58 AM) *
he is MIA..

happens a lot when he is losing



Funny joke, Serge.

I'm in the process of getting a separation agreement, selling a house and moving into another house. Plus I have 3 kids, the girlfriend has 3 kids and I have limited internet access.

And thanks for the update Tim. I guess Serge and Dubey are too busy celebrating their half point lead.
pezeveng
QUOTE (digitalmonkey @ Saturday, November 14th, 2009, 9:32 AM) *
Funny joke, Serge.

I'm in the process of getting a separation agreement, selling a house and moving into another house. Plus I have 3 kids, the girlfriend has 3 kids and I have limited internet access.

And thanks for the update Tim. I guess Serge and Dubey are too busy celebrating their half point lead.


With Kate plus Eight coming to an end, I say you and the gf should have 3 more kids together. Reality tv here comes Dale plus 9 but three aint mine.
fryer98
Toronto vs...
Nov 3rd - Tampa Bay LOST 2-1 OT
6th - @ Carolina WON 3-2
7th - Detroit WON 5-1
10th - Minnesota LOST 5-2
13th - @ Chicago LOST 3-2
14th - Calgary LOST 5-2
17th - @ Ottawa
19th - @ Carolina
21st - Washington
23rd - NY Islanders
25th - @ Tampa Bay
27th - @ Florida

Montreal vs...
Nov 3rd - Atlanta LOST 5-4
5th - @ Boston WON 2-1 SO
7th - Tampa Bay LOST 3-1
10th - Calgary LOST 1-0
12th - @ Phoenix WON 4-2
14th - @ Nashville LOST 2-0
17th - Carolina
20th - @ Washington
21st - Detroit
24th - Columbus
25th - @ Pittsburgh
28th - Washington

Running Total
Toronto 5
Montreal 4
FCP Bob
QUOTE (digitalmonkey @ Saturday, November 14th, 2009, 12:32 PM) *
Funny joke, Serge.

I'm in the process of getting a separation agreement, selling a house and moving into another house. Plus I have 3 kids, the girlfriend has 3 kids and I have limited internet access.

And thanks for the update Tim. I guess Serge and Dubey are too busy celebrating their half point lead.


Do all of her kids have hair of gold like their Mother, the youngest one with curls ?

mrdannyg
Awesome. Only in a Leafs/Habs bet could a team with 5 points in 6 games be 'winning.'

Monkey, I'll let you out of this bet now for $20.
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