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trystero
5plo 6max, hero's stack is $6.50 and villain covers

Hero is dealt [ Q icon_suit_heart.gif J icon_suit_club.gif J icon_suit_heart.gif 9 icon_suit_spade.gif ]

3 limpers
Hero completes
BB checks

Flop [ Q icon_suit_diamond.gif J icon_suit_diamond.gif 7 icon_suit_spade.gif ]
(0.25)
Hero bets 0.25
3 folds
Villain raises to 1.25
Hero calls 1.00

Turn [ Q icon_suit_diamond.gif J icon_suit_diamond.gif 7 icon_suit_spade.gif ] [ 4 icon_suit_heart.gif ]
($2.75)

Hero bets $2.75
Villain shoves and hero calls

Assuming he calls...fold any non-pairing diamond river, c/c "safeish" ones, shove the 7 or 4 of diamonds

Should we just 3bet otf? We just hate so many turns that it's probably best to just get it in.
dingas
I prefer re-raising it on the flop. I don't really see why you would just call.
BaseJester
3 bet flop.

You have a blocker queen, so you're not likely up against top set. I think you could consider looking for a blank on the turn if you have position, but not in this case where you're out of position.
Shark527
This type of flop hits more wrap/flush draws than top set. There are enough combo's of those draws that your middle set could be a dog equity wise if you were to 3 bet flop and try to get it all in.

I think you took a good line here by waiting for the blank turn.


Although, depending on your villian, could he be repoppin your flop bet with something as simple as a QJ? I think 3betting flop is a read dependent move here.
BaseJester
I think it's easy to overestimate the significance of being a dog to a big draw. Even in a brutal case the set isn't far behind.


twodimes
CODE
pokenum  -o qh jc jh 9s  - kd ad ts 9h  -- qd jd 7s
Omaha Hi: 820 enumerated boards containing 7s Qd Jd
cards          win   %win  lose  %lose  tie  %tie     EV
9s Jc  Qh  Jh  353  43.05   467  56.95    0  0.00  0.430
Ts Ad  Kd  9h  467  56.95   353  43.05    0  0.00  0.570
dingas
QUOTE (Shark527 @ Tuesday, October 27th, 2009, 5:55 PM) *
This type of flop hits more wrap/flush draws than top set. There are enough combo's of those draws that your middle set could be a dog equity wise if you were to 3 bet flop and try to get it all in.

I think you took a good line here by waiting for the blank turn.


Although, depending on your villian, could he be repoppin your flop bet with something as simple as a QJ? I think 3betting flop is a read dependent move here.


The times villain has bottom set or a weaker draw makes us a favorite against his range, even taking into account that we are sometimes a dog to a monster draw. A call on the flop would be okay if we did not have a Q in our hand (because of the greater likelihood of being against top set). As it is, a reraise is best.
rrumsey
reraise flop against big draws. as played i get it in and pray he misses his monster draw
redhollywood
yeah i like the 3 bet flop as well
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