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hank213
QUOTE (Randy Reed @ Tuesday, November 10th, 2009, 5:11 PM) *
I agree and given that it's a poker forum and I was bored at work, not a paleantologist I wasn't fully specific. There were obviously many factors other than running that went into
our evolution but I was just pointing out what I thought might be a little less known aspect of it that was still important.

I thought you might be claiming that you were "hyper evolved" now that you're jogging and stuff. Had to put and end to that shit post haste.
brvheart
QUOTE (El Guapo @ Tuesday, November 10th, 2009, 3:23 PM) *
How do you not like Ghost in the Darkness?


1st date with wife.
Randy Reed
QUOTE (hank213 @ Tuesday, November 10th, 2009, 3:30 PM) *
I thought you might be claiming that you were "hyper evolved" now that you're jogging and stuff. Had to put and end to that shit post haste.


haha, no. But speaking of "hyper evolved", what advanced evolution power would you choose if you could like the Xmen powers?
hank213
QUOTE (Randy Reed @ Wednesday, November 11th, 2009, 1:04 PM) *
haha, no. But speaking of "hyper evolved", what advanced evolution power would you choose if you could like the Xmen powers?

Hmmm.

The regeneration, and therefore near immortality, of wolverine would be pretty awesome.

Teleportation is a good one, definitely would be robbing banks with that one.

Being able to read peoples thoughts would be cool at the poker table. But I'd want it to be something I had to consciously want to do, not like the chick from True Blood that constantly has to focus on blocking her telepathy.

Shapeshifting would be cool.

more later I actually have to work now sad.gif
Randy Reed
Yeah, I have to think flying would be pretty awesome, "Honey I'm going to buzz over to Vegas, be back in a bit".

I do agree some super powers like great hearing could be really annoying.

hank213
QUOTE (Randy Reed @ Wednesday, November 11th, 2009, 2:47 PM) *
Yeah, I have to think flying would be pretty awesome, "Honey I'm going to buzz over to Vegas, be back in a bit".

I do agree some super powers like great hearing could be really annoying.

Yeah with powers like that it's all about degree and ability to control easily.
Randy Reed
QUOTE (hank213 @ Tuesday, November 10th, 2009, 4:30 PM) *
I thought you might be claiming that you were "hyper evolved" now that you're jogging and stuff. Had to put and end to that shit post haste.


I was thinking about this over the weekend. I listen to audion books about 2 hours a day and usually read in the morning and before bed so
I read alot. Since i've been running I happened upon alot of interesting books on the subject which I found pretty fascinating and flew in the face
of alot that I had kind of taken for granted. I hoped this kind of became an evolution type thread since I have little interest in debating Balloon Guy
over this type of stuff since he doesn't believe any of it happened in the first place.

So obviously it was a current topic on my mind due to the recent spate of reading on the subject. I found it pretty interesting that we were more
of a nomadic/running people than the typical hunter/gatherer that we were mostly led to believe. The evidence is pretty convincing.
Randy Reed
Okay, I've changed my mind. I am curious, I wonder what the Neanderthals did to piss God off? I mean
they were the dominant species on the planet longer than any other, longer than homo sapien even to this
day but they must have done something to piss him off and wipe them off the planet, eh?

For that matter, Homo Sapiens and Neanderthals were the only two human-like beings to evolve from
a common ancestor, there were others that are obviously extinct as well.

But anyway, as Hank was saying and I didn't explain, running wasn't the only thing that made homo-sapiens
eventually the more dominant species. Somewhere during the Ice Age homosapien moved (in Africa) to the
oceans edge and included lots of seafood in their diet along with fruits and veggies.

Interestingly, Neanderthal throughout there existence remained meat eaters and stayed consisently the same
for close to a half million years. They had one basic tool they developed and judging from the broken bones they
consistently had it must have been a bitch to kill wooly mammoths and saber-tooth tigers and such.

So somewhere along the line something about the homo sapiens changed to make them the more dominent species
which was likely the diet. Homo Sapien brains became larger than Neands and we started making better weapons
like spears along with what appears to be an artistic sense and a sense of self, judging by artifacts.

So anyway as the ice age receded, the homo sapiens took off across the world and wreaked havoc, killing animals
in the quest for food and causing mass extinction of large mammals on a never seen before scale. It would probably
cause Greenpeace activists to commit Hari Kari. Neanders lack of ability to adapt and compete ultimately caused their demise.
Well, with no food and needing about 5000 calories a day to starvation was the likely end culprit.

Another thing I should note, it is probably alot more sexy to imagine that we came from a paradise called Eden
and were basically created as we are today rather than picturing a group of our ancestors hordeing over a bloody carcass
and gnawing on rare antelope steak. I wonder if they saved the liver for grandma and the brains for the kids or something?
I guess we'll never know for sure about that stuff. Hmm, wonder why God didn't have Paul or someone put that in the bible?
vbnautilus
By several measures, we are not the dominant species on the planet.

There are estimated to be about 4 times as many chickens as humans.

But beetles are by far the most populous and widespread creatures on the planet, accounting for about 25% of all life forms.
Randy Reed
QUOTE (vbnautilus @ Thursday, November 19th, 2009, 8:56 AM) *
By several measures, we are not the dominant species on the planet.

There are estimated to be about 4 times as many chickens as humans.

But beetles are by far the most populous and widespread creatures on the planet, accounting for about 25% of all life forms.


I guess I meant that we can kick some beetle ass for being a less dominant species. I think. Are you saying the Beetle God is more powerful than OURS?
JoeyJoJo
QUOTE (Randy Reed @ Thursday, November 19th, 2009, 9:04 AM) *
I guess I meant that we can kick some beetle ass for being a less dominant species. I think.

Until they learn to band together as one. Imagine a swarm of 20 billion beetles coming at you. Heebie jeebies.
hank213
QUOTE (Randy Reed @ Thursday, November 19th, 2009, 10:05 AM) *
Okay, I've changed my mind. I am curious, I wonder what the Neanderthals did to piss God off? I mean
they were the dominant species on the planet longer than any other, longer than homo sapien even to this
day but they must have done something to piss him off and wipe them off the planet, eh?

For that matter, Homo Sapiens and Neanderthals were the only two human-like beings to evolve from
a common ancestor, there were others that are obviously extinct as well.

But anyway, as Hank was saying and I didn't explain, running wasn't the only thing that made homo-sapiens
eventually the more dominant species. Somewhere during the Ice Age homosapien moved (in Africa) to the
oceans edge and included lots of seafood in their diet along with fruits and veggies.

Interestingly, Neanderthal throughout there existence remained meat eaters and stayed consisently the same
for close to a half million years. They had one basic tool they developed and judging from the broken bones they
consistently had it must have been a bitch to kill wooly mammoths and saber-tooth tigers and such.

So somewhere along the line something about the homo sapiens changed to make them the more dominent species
which was likely the diet. Homo Sapien brains became larger than Neands and we started making better weapons
like spears along with what appears to be an artistic sense and a sense of self, judging by artifacts.

So anyway as the ice age receded, the homo sapiens took off across the world and wreaked havoc, killing animals
in the quest for food and causing mass extinction of large mammals on a never seen before scale. It would probably
cause Greenpeace activists to commit Hari Kari. Neanders lack of ability to adapt and compete ultimately caused their demise.
Well, with no food and needing about 5000 calories a day to starvation was the likely end culprit.

Another thing I should note, it is probably alot more sexy to imagine that we came from a paradise called Eden
and were basically created as we are today rather than picturing a group of our ancestors hordeing over a bloody carcass
and gnawing on rare antelope steak. I wonder if they saved the liver for grandma and the brains for the kids or something?
I guess we'll never know for sure about that stuff. Hmm, wonder why God didn't have Paul or someone put that in the bible?

Did you see Nova this week?

QUOTE (Randy Reed @ Thursday, November 19th, 2009, 11:04 AM) *
I guess I meant that we can kick some beetle ass for being a less dominant species. I think. Are you saying the Beetle God is more powerful than OURS?



QUOTE (JoeyJoJo @ Thursday, November 19th, 2009, 11:10 AM) *
Until they learn to band together as one. Imagine a swarm of 20 billion beetles coming at you. Heebie jeebies.

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