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Zealous Donkey
Does this bother anyone else?

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/10/21/...in5404829.shtml

If you've been diagnosed "probable" or "presumed" 2009 H1N1 or "swine flu" in recent months, you may be surprised to know this: odds are you didn’t have H1N1 flu.

In fact, you probably didn’t have flu at all. That's according to state-by-state test results obtained in a three-month-long CBS News investigation.


vbnautilus
Overestimation is safer than underestimation.

edit: just read the article.. they are saying people will mistakenly think they are immune if they thought they have had it. I guess that makes sense.
FCP Bob
It's standard practice to not waste money and time on testing people with mild symptoms and all countries are doing it.



Balloon guy
QUOTE (FCP Bob @ Wednesday, October 21st, 2009, 6:55 PM) *
It's standard practice to not waste money and time on testing people with mild symptoms and all countries are doing it.



Maybe in your socialist nanny state.

but in the good ol U S of A we take pride in wasting money and time testing people with mild symtoms to prevent them from bringing a lawsuit later!
Mercury69
Would anyone care to confirm or deny that Donald Rumsfeld was once a high ranking exec and a current significant stockholder of Gilead Sciences, a company which was granted over 1 billion in emergency funding by the American government in 2005 to prepare Tamiflu vaccine against the possibility of the bird flu pandemic? Tamiflu vaccine is, apparently, being touted as a solid bet against swine flu, our latest pandemic love affair.

Kind of old news, I guess, but worth mentioning in light of the current panicdemic
nutzbuster
Dr. Bob Martin sites a recent study that concluded that those getting a Swine flu shot are TWICE AS LIKELY TO GET THE SWINE FLU.


The promised October roll out of vaccine is now being delayed until January in some States, too late many say to do any good. (and just another example of Government trying to handle something and fuking it up completely.)





I'll pass on the vaccine and just keep washing my hands, thanks.
JubilantLankyLad
QUOTE (nutzbuster @ Thursday, October 22nd, 2009, 2:20 PM) *
Dr. Bob Martin sites a recent study that concluded that those getting a Swine flu shot are TWICE AS LIKELY TO GET THE SWINE FLU.


The promised October roll out of vaccine is now being delayed until January in some States, too late many say to do any good. (and just another example of Government trying to handle something and fuking it up completely.)





I'll pass on the vaccine and just keep washing my hands, thanks.

sw? i just took a quick look at Dr Bob's website and I'd hesitate to do anything but the exact opposite of what he says...
Balloon guy
QUOTE (JubilantLankyLad @ Thursday, October 22nd, 2009, 2:24 PM) *
sw? i just took a quick look at Dr Bob's website and I'd hesitate to do anything but the exact opposite of what he says...



Good luck with that.

He says not to ignore his advice.

So you are going to ignore his advice...

Which means you are taking his advice ( ie following it ) and then ignoring it.

So this means you must follow his advice to truly be able to ignore it.


So you're a sheep


Baaaaaaa
JubilantLankyLad
Dr. Martin holds a science certification from the University of South Dakota School Of Medicine, as well as being board certified in Anti-Aging Medicine through the American Academy of Anti-Aging Medicine. (A.B.A.A.H.P.) Dr. Martin is double board certified as a Clinical Nutritionist (C.C.N.) through both the International and American Associations of Clinical Nutritionists and as a Diplomate of the American Clinical Board of Nutrition (D.A.C.B.N). Additionally, Dr. Martin is a board certified Chiropractic Physician and Physiotherapist in the states of Arizona, Colorado and Kentucky. He is certified in Applied Kinesiology and has training in the fields of medicine, acupuncture, herbology, sports medicine, and exercise physiology.


Oh, good - he has a Certificate of Science! That ought to make you pretty comfortable, BG... vb and crow should probably not listen in.
Balloon guy
QUOTE (JubilantLankyLad @ Thursday, October 22nd, 2009, 2:29 PM) *
Dr. Martin holds a science certification from the University of South Dakota School Of Medicine, as well as being board certified in Anti-Aging Medicine through the American Academy of Anti-Aging Medicine. (A.B.A.A.H.P.) Dr. Martin is double board certified as a Clinical Nutritionist (C.C.N.) through both the International and American Associations of Clinical Nutritionists and as a Diplomate of the American Clinical Board of Nutrition (D.A.C.B.N). Additionally, Dr. Martin is a board certified Chiropractic Physician and Physiotherapist in the states of Arizona, Colorado and Kentucky. He is certified in Applied Kinesiology and has training in the fields of medicine, acupuncture, herbology, sports medicine, and exercise physiology.


Oh, good - he has a Certificate of Science! That ought to make you pretty comfortable, BG... vb and crow should probably not listen in.


BBBBBBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA


That's all I heard
nutzbuster
QUOTE (JubilantLankyLad @ Thursday, October 22nd, 2009, 2:29 PM) *
Dr. Martin holds a science certification from the University of South Dakota School Of Medicine, as well as being board certified in Anti-Aging Medicine through the American Academy of Anti-Aging Medicine. (A.B.A.A.H.P.) Dr. Martin is double board certified as a Clinical Nutritionist (C.C.N.) through both the International and American Associations of Clinical Nutritionists and as a Diplomate of the American Clinical Board of Nutrition (D.A.C.B.N). Additionally, Dr. Martin is a board certified Chiropractic Physician and Physiotherapist in the states of Arizona, Colorado and Kentucky. He is certified in Applied Kinesiology and has training in the fields of medicine, acupuncture, herbology, sports medicine, and exercise physiology.


Oh, good - he has a Certificate of Science! That ought to make you pretty comfortable, BG... vb and crow should probably not listen in.



Well for sure his training and approach is more in line with the holistic/natural/alternative aspect of science and medicine. But he is a brilliant guy.


But that said, his tact on health could lead one to believe that perhaps politically he might be more inclined to lean left.


If that were the case....keeping all his medical and scientific training remaining the same...if he were a Democrat, would you/other left folks still feel the same way about him?
JubilantLankyLad
wait, what? What do his politics have to do with anything? i've never heard of him prior to your bringing him up, and i assure you, i don't know or care which way he leans. a quick look at his website and i dismiss anything he has to say (there could be some truthy stuff in there, i don't know) because he doesn't appear credible. like most kooks.

(translated for BG: BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA)
Balloon guy
QUOTE (JubilantLankyLad @ Thursday, October 22nd, 2009, 2:46 PM) *
wait, what? What do his politics have to do with anything? i've never heard of him prior to your bringing him up, and i assure you, i don't know or care which way he leans. a quick look at his website and i dismiss anything he has to say (there could be some truthy stuff in there, i don't know) because he doesn't appear credible. like most kooks.

(translated for BG: BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA)



They said the Hydrogen bomb was kooky.
nutzbuster
QUOTE (JubilantLankyLad @ Thursday, October 22nd, 2009, 2:46 PM) *
wait, what? What do his politics have to do with anything? i've never heard of him prior to your bringing him up, and i assure you, i don't know or care which way he leans. a quick look at his website and i dismiss anything he has to say (there could be some truthy stuff in there, i don't know) because he doesn't appear credible. like most kooks.

(translated for BG: BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA)



my bad.... thought you were commenting more on the fact that he leans right.



on another note...sheep get swine flu shots!




lol



JubilantLankyLad
goddammit, now we have to worry about sheep flu too?
Sal Paradise
went into my local cvs today and there were people lined up around the inside of the store, I'm assuming to get a swine flu shot. only thing I could think of is how the absolute best way for one to get the flu would be to stand in close proximity, in an enclosed environment, right next to a bunch of other people who are thinking they may get sick.



fucking idiots.
strategy
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