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85suited
Youtube Video Here



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Very rarely did we communicate through the press anything that we didn’t absolutely control,” said Dunn.

“One of the reasons we did so many of the David Plouffe videos was not just for our supporters, but also because it was a way for us to get our message out without having to actually talk to reporters,” said Dunn, referring to Plouffe, who was Obama’s chief campaign manager.

“We just put that out there and made them write what Plouffe had said as opposed to Plouffe doing an interview with a reporter. So it was very much we controlled it as opposed to the press controlled it,” Dunn said.

Continued Dunn: “Whether it was a David Plouffe video or an Obama speech, a huge part of our press strategy was focused on making the media cover what Obama was actually saying as opposed to why the campaign was saying it, what the tactic was. … Making the press cover what we were saying.”


The Parrot Press Core just repeats what Candidate Obama and now President tells them too...

Don't you dare ask why... just repeat - drink the cool aide

If you needed anymore confirmation, the news is officially dead - it is now the propoganda arm of Chairman Maobama
vbnautilus
Are you intentionally trying to lower the quality of the discussion?
85suited
QUOTE (vbnautilus @ Monday, October 19th, 2009, 6:27 PM) *
Are you intentionally trying to lower the quality of the discussion?


Typical - That you would not be concerned that the so called news organizations spit out White House talking points and call it news...

And now they admit it!
vbnautilus
QUOTE (85suited @ Monday, October 19th, 2009, 4:30 PM) *
Typical - That you would not be concerned that the so called news organizations spit out White House talking points and call it news...

And now they admit it!


The story you quoted doesn't even say what you are taking from it. You even bolded the part where they said they were trying to get the focus on what Obama actually said rather than what the campaign tactic was. What exactly is wrong with that?
85suited
QUOTE (vbnautilus @ Monday, October 19th, 2009, 6:39 PM) *
The story you quoted doesn't even say what you are taking from it. You even bolded the part where they said they were trying to get the focus on what Obama actually said rather than what the campaign tactic was. What exactly is wrong with that?



The quoted text is the transcript from the you tube clip

I have no problem with the campaign tactic - It should have been just that a tactic - Real journalism would have asked the campaign a question some where, some time instead of cheerleading.

Fast forward to his presidency - they still don't ask him anything. The only network that dares to ask him about his policies is FOX and guess what - They have frozem them out. Because they don't parrot what Anita Dunn tells them to say;

In Case you missed it, Dunn,Axlerod & EManuel have been making the rounds on the sunday circuit villifying Fox News because they dare to question Dear Leader.

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making the media cover what Obama was actually saying as opposed to why the campaign was saying it,

That is exactly what they do now
Balloon guy
QUOTE (vbnautilus @ Monday, October 19th, 2009, 4:39 PM) *
The story you quoted doesn't even say what you are taking from it. You even bolded the part where they said they were trying to get the focus on what Obama actually said rather than what the campaign tactic was. What exactly is wrong with that?



Call me a dreamer, but I would like a news organization that actually challenges what the politicians say, instead of letting them use their airwaves with no conditions.
Sal Paradise
personally I'd like a news organization that reports the news and lets me come to my own conclusions. BUT WHAT THE HELL DO I KNOW.
85suited
you see the the White House only engages with those they control and will seek to destroy (overly regulate) things they don't. Fox News, Talk Radio, The Internet

Time to wake up - your right to free speech is eroding quickly
Balloon guy
QUOTE (Sal Paradise @ Monday, October 19th, 2009, 5:13 PM) *
personally I'd like a news organization that reports the news and lets me come to my own conclusions. BUT WHAT THE HELL DO I KNOW.



85suited
Another perfect example - The White House Communications director recommended Chairman Mao as a role model for America’s young at a High School graduation speech and it isn't covered but the networks spend a week attributing a quote to Rush that didn't exist and covering his part in an ownership group to buy a NFL Team.


How the White House Communications director can make a speech to high school students and call MAO one of her "two favorite political philosophers" and the media not cover it is absurd.

Imagine is Karl Rove had made a speech citing Adolf Hitler or Joseph Stalin as "two of his favorite political philosophers"




vbnautilus
QUOTE (Balloon guy @ Monday, October 19th, 2009, 5:00 PM) *
Call me a dreamer, but I would like a news organization that actually challenges what the politicians say, instead of letting them use their airwaves with no conditions.


But this is not about what the news organizations intended to cover or actually covered, its about what the strategy of the campaign was for getting the coverage they wanted. Why should the campaign not have such a strategy?
colonel Feathers
QUOTE (85suited @ Monday, October 19th, 2009, 5:35 PM) *
Another perfect example - The White House Communications director recommended Chairman Mao as a role model for America’s young at a High School graduation speech and it isn't covered but the networks spend a week attributing a quote to Rush that didn't exist and covering his part in an ownership group to buy a NFL Team.


How the White House Communications director can make a speech to high school students and call MAO one of her "two favorite political philosophers" and the media not cover it is absurd.

Imagine is Karl Rove had made a speech citing Adolf Hitler or Joseph Stalin as "two of his favorite political philosophers"


Rove wouldnt have needed to make the statement, if someone online claimed he did it would be reported as fct.

This gives me an idea, someone needs to start a thread claiming some republican said something outrageous and a few posters claim they heard it too. Then start a pool to see how long it takes to get reported on MSNBC.
vbnautilus
QUOTE (85suited @ Monday, October 19th, 2009, 5:35 PM) *
Another perfect example - The White House Communications director recommended Chairman Mao as a role model for America’s young at a High School graduation speech and it isn't covered but the networks spend a week attributing a quote to Rush that didn't exist and covering his part in an ownership group to buy a NFL Team.


How the White House Communications director can make a speech to high school students and call MAO one of her "two favorite political philosophers" and the media not cover it is absurd.

Imagine is Karl Rove had made a speech citing Adolf Hitler or Joseph Stalin as "two of his favorite political philosophers"


Or imagine John McCain quoting Mao.

Or, just watch it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYJ15vbo15w
85suited
2x post sorry
85suited
QUOTE (vbnautilus @ Monday, October 19th, 2009, 9:29 PM) *
Or imagine John McCain quoting Mao.

Or, just watch it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYJ15vbo15w


Well if there is more to that quote other than quoting mao..let me know... but I don't think Mccain goes on say Mao is his favorite political philosophers - does he?
vbnautilus
QUOTE (85suited @ Monday, October 19th, 2009, 7:33 PM) *
Well if there is more to that quote other than quoting mao..let me know... but I don't think Mccain goes on say Mao is his favorite political philosophers - does he?


Did you watch the rest of her speech? She was making the point that Mao and Mother Theresa were the two people she favored going to in order to make this particular point.

If you are trying to convince people that she accepts all of Mao's political philosophies you are a worse propagandist than Mao was.
85suited
QUOTE (vbnautilus @ Monday, October 19th, 2009, 9:23 PM) *
But this is not about what the news organizations intended to cover or actually covered, its about what the strategy of the campaign was for getting the coverage they wanted. Why should the campaign not have such a strategy?



I think you missed the point - This is exactly what the communications directors job is ... get the Media to recite your talking points... and they did this very well and still do today - This is an indictment on the MSM



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a huge part of our press strategy was focused on making the media cover what Obama was actually saying as opposed to why the campaign was saying it, what the tactic was. … Making the press cover what we were saying.”


Translation - don't bother to ask any questions or actually engage in journalism, just print or say or talking points and wait until we call you with our next update.



vbnautilus
QUOTE (85suited @ Monday, October 19th, 2009, 7:39 PM) *
I think you missed the point - This is exactly what the communications directors job is ... get the Media to recite your talking points... and they did this very well and still do today - This is an indictment on the MSM


No, that is exactly the point I made. This is the communications director's job and she was doing it well, what exactly is noteworthy about what she said? This is no "indictment" of anything, it is a known campaign strategy expressed by a strategist. And as far as campaign strategies go, getting the media to talk about the content of your candidate's speech is among the more noble.
85suited
QUOTE (vbnautilus @ Monday, October 19th, 2009, 9:36 PM) *
Did you watch the rest of her speech? She was making the point that Mao and Mother Theresa were the two people she favored going to in order to make this particular point.

If you are trying to convince people that she accepts all of Mao's political philosophies you are a worse propagandist than Mao was.


Dunn went into some detail about why she so admired Mao but said next to nothing about Mother Teresa.
85suited
QUOTE (vbnautilus @ Monday, October 19th, 2009, 9:44 PM) *
No, that is exactly the point I made. This is the communications director's job and she was doing it well, what exactly is noteworthy about what she said? This is no "indictment" of anything, it is a known campaign strategy expressed by a strategist. And as far as campaign strategies go, getting the media to talk about the content of your candidate's speech is among the more noble.



We are saying the same thing ...almost - Brilliant Job in both positions getting the MSM to be your LAP DOG

MSM should return to journalism and do the job of the people and ask real questions of our govt instead of beings its cheerleader
DonkSlayer
QUOTE (Balloon guy @ Monday, October 19th, 2009, 8:30 PM) *


fake
colonel Feathers
QUOTE (85suited @ Monday, October 19th, 2009, 5:35 PM) *
Another perfect example - The White House Communications director recommended Chairman Mao as a role model for America’s young at a High School graduation speech and it isn't covered but the networks spend a week attributing a quote to Rush that didn't exist and covering his part in an ownership group to buy a NFL Team.


How the White House Communications director can make a speech to high school students and call MAO one of her "two favorite political philosophers" and the media not cover it is absurd.

Imagine is Karl Rove had made a speech citing Adolf Hitler or Joseph Stalin as "two of his favorite political philosophers"


This

And Im sure if newt gingrich gave a speech to high schoolers praising Hitlers organizational skills, and incredible oratory prowess, the msm wouldnt even bring it up.
nutzbuster
QUOTE (85suited @ Monday, October 19th, 2009, 5:35 PM) *
Another perfect example - The White House Communications director recommended Chairman Mao as a role model for America’s young at a High School graduation speech and it isn't covered but the networks spend a week attributing a quote to Rush that didn't exist and covering his part in an ownership group to buy a NFL Team.


How the White House Communications director can make a speech to high school students and call MAO one of her "two favorite political philosophers" and the media not cover it is absurd.



THIS was very shocking to me. Holy crap. I mean was she serious? MASS MURDERER OF MILLIONS MAO????? Incredible




What's sadly not shocking at all is the admission that the major network news outlets are in lust with this White House. REALLY? lol



and GL taking on FOX and Limbaugh. Very slippery slope that could easily come back and bite them square on the ass. And what ever happend to the promise of ending all the division? I thought the left was always against censorship? I thought we were in a new era, about listening to both sides and allowing "healthy debate"?

vbnautilus
QUOTE (nutzbuster @ Monday, October 19th, 2009, 11:26 PM) *
What's sadly not shocking at all is the admission that the major network news outlets are in lust with this White House. REALLY? lol


Honestly guys this is not what the video is about. It is about how the Obama campaign attempted to control their message to the press. Watch the video. It's actually kind of interesting, but has no info on how the campaign went from the media's perspective. What campaign does not control their message to the media? There is no "admission" of anything.

That was 85suited's distortion... well, at least it was the distortion by whatever blog he read. smile.gif

Nothing to see here.
85suited
QUOTE (vbnautilus @ Tuesday, October 20th, 2009, 2:12 AM) *
Honestly guys this is not what the video is about. It is about how the Obama campaign attempted to control their message to the press. Watch the video. It's actually kind of interesting, but has no info on how the campaign went from the media's perspective. What campaign does not control their message to the media? There is no "admission" of anything.

That was 85suited's distortion... well, at least it was the distortion by whatever blog he read. smile.gif

Nothing to see here.



Nothing to see here... just another communist in the White House... Move a long, don't dare ask questions
85suited
Ron Bloom - Obama's Manufacturing Czar, long time union negotiator -in a keynote address at the 6th Annual Distressed Investing Forum, Union League Club, New York, February 27-28, 2008.

His speeech was "about a union's role in bankruptcy and restructuring."

Watch Video of Speech Here

He apparently is not a fan of free markets



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RON BLOOM: In fact, in retrospect one finds that these restructurings are better than the slow death that our companies were in; but at the time and in the moment, it is almost never something we welcome. So, this is a..., but nevertheless, this is a world we've had to learn about. As we've tried to learn about this world, we have evolved some views....

Generally speaking, we get the joke. We know that the free market is nonsense. We know that the whole point is to game the system, to beat the market or at least find someone who will pay you a lot of money, 'cause they're convinced that there is a free lunch.

We know this is largely about power, that it's an adults only no limit game. We kind of agree with Mao that political power comes largely from the barrel of a gun. And we get it that if you want a friend you should get a dog.
akoff
QUOTE (85suited @ Tuesday, October 20th, 2009, 4:17 AM) *
Ron Bloom - Obama's Manufacturing Czar, long time union negotiator -in a keynote address at the 6th Annual Distressed Investing Forum, Union League Club, New York, February 27-28, 2008.

He apparently is not a fan of free markets



Good place for him then...we just need to hang on. the house of cards is falling apart everyday. In one year there will be a new congress and in 3 years there will be a new president. I have faith in the American public to eventually do the right thing.

all we can do now is make things hard for them (them being the communist in the white house) and limit the damage they are going to cause. Basically we need to lose the minimum...
Sal Paradise
KEEP DRINKING THE FUCKING KOOL AID
nutzbuster
QUOTE (Sal Paradise @ Tuesday, October 20th, 2009, 8:10 AM) *
KEEP DRINKING THE FUCKING KOOL AID



OH YEAHHHHHHHH!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBeUGqeYsQg



LongLiveYorke
This thread is painful to read.
strategy
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Balloon guy
QUOTE (LongLiveYorke @ Tuesday, October 20th, 2009, 10:03 AM) *
This thread is painful to accept. So I won't.

strategy
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LongLiveYorke
You know, I really liked Kool Aid as a kid, but I think it would be disgusting now. I mean, it's basically just pure sugar that you pour into water, right?
vbnautilus
QUOTE (LongLiveYorke @ Tuesday, October 20th, 2009, 11:18 AM) *
You know, I really liked Kool Aid as a kid, but I think it would be disgusting now. I mean, it's basically just pure sugar that you pour into water, right?


No, it also has communism in it.
brvheart
QUOTE (vbnautilus @ Tuesday, October 20th, 2009, 1:25 PM) *
No, it also has communism in it.


This guy 'gets' it.
nutzbuster
lollzzzzz



lime kool aid ftw


85suited
At least one ABC Reporter stands up for Journalism

From this morning’s gaggle in White House press secretary Robert Gibbs’ office:

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Tapper: It’s escaped none of our notice that the White House has decided in the last few weeks to declare one of our sister organizations “not a news organization” and to tell the rest of us not to treat them like a news organization. Can you explain why it’s appropriate for the White House to decide that a news organization is not one –

(Crosstalk)

Gibbs: Jake, we render, we render an opinion based on some of their coverage and the fairness that, the fairness of that coverage.

Tapper: But that’s a pretty sweeping declaration that they are “not a news organization.” How are they any different from, say –

Gibbs: ABC -

Tapper: ABC. MSNBC. Univision. I mean how are they any different?

Gibbs: You and I should watch sometime around 9 o’clock tonight. Or 5 o’clock this afternoon.

Tapper: I’m not talking about their opinion programming or issues you have with certain reports. I’m talking about saying thousands of individuals who work for a media organization, do not work for a “news organization” -- why is that appropriate for the White House to say?

Gibbs: That’s our opinion.


Balloon guy
QUOTE (LongLiveYorke @ Tuesday, October 20th, 2009, 11:18 AM) *
You know, I really liked Kool Aid as a kid, but I think it would be disgusting now. I mean, it's basically just pure sugar that you pour into water, right?



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