I don't know if it's been talked about on here but I just wanted to say that the NFL Redzone Channel = the nutz.

OMG its the nuts.......sooooooooo much better than the Sunday Ticket

Why do you want to watch that much of the NFL?

haha at the jets.

Isn't that what guys do.

Well my steelers weren't on tv here so while I was watching the game on justin tv I had redzone on my main tv. It's pretty much amazing if you're into fantasy football. Having three teams might classify me as "into fantasy football."

it's certainly seems to be the thing, but not really for me (at least not anymore). You can thank the commercials, the length of the games, and other stuff for it. I'll bet on the games to have something to vaguely follow but only because I need something to do on Sundays. I need more baseball. and yeahhh baseball games are long but more enjoyable for me.

I have a question, that I would love answered. Why do these NFL coaches love punting on forth and short around the 50 so much? Case in point... early in the bears game, the bears had a 4th and 1 on their own 48. They decide to punt, and the ball goes to like the 18. 35 yards. You give up a possession to get it 35 yards? Lets say you make the first down 80% of the time and lose possession 20 percent of the time. Well, if you punt it you give up possession 100 percent of the time, and at least 15-20 percent of the time you'll return the ball to around the 50 ( or further) anyway.. so what's gained by giving away the football? I think it's coaches are afraid of being criticized

Why don't more teams run the Bubba Franks play within the 5 yard line? (with success)

Orlando Pace was a terrible pick up. He cost the bears the game. He's a shell of his former greatness.

yep, Bears didn't want to win tonight

sorry to tee off on you here, but saying a team doesn't want to win is absurd. They just made too many mistakes and too many bad turnovers. I guarantee everyone on the field wanted to win, really really badly.

vomit

I didn't mean that literally. You got my point. They didn't look good and from a viewer's standpoint it looked like they gave the game away so many different times that they didn't want to win. (I'm sure you already knew that)

yeah... I have just gotten sensitive to sports cliches from listening to the dan lebatard show. I'm also extremely tilted about watching that horse shit game.

I know what you mean. I would rather just type the shortened version and say that they didn't want to win (assuming that everyone knows what I mean). I might be stupid but I know they're trying.

Love it.

Random, but obviously mostly Steelers based...

There are currently seven QBs with an 100+ rating. Brady is knocking on the door at 99. In 2004, four QBs ended the year with an 100+ rating, the most I could find in any year.

Ben Roethlisberger is leading the NFL in passing yards. Who ever thought they'd see this day, since he's known as a game manager QB?

Hines Ward is leading the NFL in catches and receiving yards. Isn't he supposed to be on the downside of his career?

Orton vs. Cutler. Ortan has 35 more yards. Three less TDs, but six less INTs. Orton has a better rating 97.4 vs. 86.9

Well I think my play of the year is here. I usually don't stray from my 1 unit betting increment. I did put a 2 unit play down with success.....but this is my first, and probably only time this year making a 3 unit play. someone explain this to me further if you can. New York Jets (-6) @ Oakland. I was amazed to get this at 6, as I felt even 7 was a solid play. To my surprise the line did in fact open at -7, but has been pounded hard early on the oakland side of the spectrum, driving it all the way down to 6 here on monday.

I'll get into details later, but does anyone not find this line just fantastic for NYJ??

Excerpt from Chuck Klosterman's latest book Eating the Dinosaur on ESPN.com

There's a ton of good stuff in there.

I have no idea who the second best team in the Big 12 is.

Oklahoma when healthy (hell they might be the best when healthy.....has Texas been all that impressive this year? Not really.)

Right now, I would go with Oklahoma State or Texas Tech. It's a down year for the Big 12. Heck, it's a bit of a down year for college football as a whole. The only truly impressive team so far is Alabama and they go through long stretches where McElroy (their QB) looks AWFUL.

I think there will be a lot more upsets down the stretch.

Which are offset by stretches where Mark Ingram looks like the Heisman frontrunner.

I fully expect McElroy to to turn it around, though. He seems to have a good grasp of where he's making his mistakes.

I'm all for the Lambeau Leap, but Grandma's gotta control herself...



http://www.footballguys.com/dailyupdatephotos/grandma.php

Well Oakland plays the pass well and lately Mark Sanchez looks spotty at best. So it is unlikely the Jets are going to get a lot done through the air in Oakland. The Jets also have a bad bad history in Oakland I believe. And Oakland looked better against Philly last week.

Bottom line: Vegas usually knows more than you. So dont assume you are finding some gem they screwed up on.

That being said....if I was going to bet on that game I would probably take the Jets and give up 6. Good luck.

Totally agree with all of the above. But "oakland looking better" was still woeful. Their D looking solid is the only worrysome part....but on O they scored a TD on a fluke 80+ yd score to their TE. Remove that and it's another 6 point day with jamarcus tossing a few picks. You just know that Ryan and Co. are going to definitely pull Sanchez's ears way back on this one. Sticking to a stout running regimen with short patterns to open up the game. I guess the simplistic way I look at it is that it is a must win for the jets, and they are playing oakland, and the public is just totally skewed on this game based on last week's results. I feel like this game should have been 7.5-9, maybe moving down to 7 when the public hammers oakland because they won last week and the jets have looked woeful. I just feel like there is real value in the jets giving less than 7 this week.

Thx for the GL, this would be a very big win as I have like 33% of my roll on it

I heard somewhere that last week on the Eagles-Raiders game, 83% of the action was on the Eagles. Vegas did well on that one.

I think when the public is over 70% on one side you want the other side; 83% is almost unheard of.

38-0 constitutes a baller play of the year. Happy camper, actually 3-0 today. Bears were quite a pot of bullocks, but whatevs.

It's pretty pathetic that a team like K-State has a legitimate chance of winning the Big 12 North. I go to K-State and still think it's pathetic, our quarterback is god awful.

Big 12 North Standings
CONF OVERALL
Kansas State 3-1 5-3
Iowa State 2-2 5-3
Kansas 1-2 5-2
Nebraska 1-2 4-3
Colorado 1-2 2-5
Missouri 0-3 4-3

These standings are hilarious.

The bears aren't going to the playoffs.

Iowa State really should be 7-1 and dominating that division.. Big 12 is awesome.

My wife graduated from there and can't stand the fact that her team is first in their division and mine is second in the country.

Arkansas shot their wad last week

Awesome, right after that happened I got a text from a buddy that said, "Holy shit, Corso just said 'shot their wad' on College Gameday."

I love how when he's asked if he can say that on the air, his response is, "Yeah, I don't know!"

Corso just had a stroke, he can write anything he does this season off on the stroke and be ok.

So I'm sitting on the couch, flipping through the noon games so far and decide to stop on the Iowa/Indy game and see what this Iowa team is all about. How the hell do you let freakin Indiana just drive it down your home field to start the game.......I mean........really????

The same way you let Darryl Clark throw an 80 yard TD pass on the first play from scrimmage.

Iowa's looked terrible today, even by their standards. The 8 yard punt from their own 25 didn't help, but Christ.

They've trailed in 7 of 8 games but they turned out okay. The defense gets better and better as the game goes on. The DC makes great 2nd half adjustments. We'll see.. it's always nerve wracking with these idiots.

Oh God.

Well, there goes Indiana's upset bid.

Thanks refs

this game is horrrrrible.......just crappy football

How dare you diss my Hoosiers.

Pretty sure if you get 7 turnovers, you'll have a chance.

Ah, now I remember why I don't bother paying attention to Indiana football.

I don't think these are random observations anymroe. I'm picking up a distinct pattern..

Random observation: If Iowa goes to a BCS bowl, they are going to get killed.

LOL.

Calling my shot for tomorrow: Green Bay 31, Minnesota 20.

Yea, you're probably right now that I think about some of the teams that will potentially be in the BCS games.