Did NBC seriously flex the Jets-Bengals game over the Cowboys-Eagles!? Unreal. The Bengals have absolutely nothing to play for. The Cowboys-Eagles game is for a first round bye.

The bengals are playing for seeding position, which admittedly isn't sexy, but also isn't "nothing". The jets are playing for an actual playoff spot, which is more than the eagles-cowboys.


That said... I'd rather watch the eagles-cowboys game. I can't believe they'd flex a cowboy game out of a national slot. Someone at the network must be a jets fan.

You and I both know that the truth almost always lies directly in between the two accounts.

He probably had a concussion and the coaches probably didn't have a ton of sympathy, but they probably didn't just lock him in a closet.

The closet was probably the size of your living room and it probably had a training table in it and they probably did give him ice and dimmed the lights, because the concussed are particularly sensitive to light. They probably did have a trainer checking on him, but not babying him.

I don't mean to sound indifferent or obtuse about concussions, because you're right..they're a quality of life issue in a lot of ways. But I really, really doubt they just shoved the kid in a broom closet with a Zip-Lock bag of ice and ignored him for 3 hours.

Either way.. it's a weird, weird story. Especially since Mike Leach has always gone way out of his way for his players.

So, INT record or not, if the Bears finish 7-9 this season, would anyone have been surprised or super down on them if you knew what they would finish at prior to the season starting?

There is a league rule that states that an equal number of AFC and NFC games must be flexed by 2014. The NFC is +3 as of right now so they needed to flex an AFC game. Also, the Jets game features a New York team trying to get into the playoffs....the Cowboys Eagles is just for seeding (and not necessarily for a first round bye either if the Vikings get their act together).

Also, the AFC playoff picture is a chaotic mess so I think this makes MUCH more sense than another NFC east battle in primetime. There will be fans of another team watching that game rooting desperately for the Bengals (maybe Pitt, maybe Denver, hell maybe even Houston).

So, you are WRONG!

The Bengals are only playing for the 3 seed if the Patriots lose, so it's possible the Bengals won't have anything to play for at the start of the game.

If the Jets make the playoffs by beating two teams who aren't trying to win, I'm going to puke.

That makes two of us. Although, to quote Bill Simmons, I am salivating about the chance to bet against Mark Sanchez on the round in the playoffs.

No matter what happens Sunday, there will be fans of 3 teams interested in the outcome of Jets Bengals. There will only be fans of two teams that care about Cowboys Eagles. Plus, enough with the NFC East in primetime already.

Eh, as much as I'd love it the NFC playoff teams are set. The AFC teams are not, and that game will decide who is in and who is not.

Also, I realized how the conferences have flip flopped as of late. I remember 3-4 years ago that at this point in the season, all the AFC spots were locked up with 10-5 or better records, and all the NFC teams were trying to get that last spot at 8-7/7-8. Funny how it's the exact opposite now...

False. The entire NFC will be watching because it will determine spots 2-5. Minnesota win + Eagles loss gives Minnesota a bye. Like I said though, who makes it is more entertaining than seeding.

I can't really predict who will win PHI@DAL. I do believe it will be <7 point game, unless the winning team scores a TD/FG with <5min to go to practically seal it.

Seeding does not match getting into the dance. And it is a team from New York! This is how TV and the media works. Jeez. I see you said as much in your above post. However, I did not know that technically Philly is ahead of the Vikings now. Crazy. I look like a savant on Minnesota falling apart.

This is the same dude that Michael Lewis wrote an awesome nytimes article about? He seemed kinda weird (all the pirate talk), but this is surprising to me.

Annoying registration/login required: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/04/magazine/04coach.html

You aren't the only one : )

I have been praying to the god I don't believe in that Minnesota will play Green Bay, and lose horribly.

Cut & paste?

commas.

I've thought for the last couple weeks that both New Orleans and Minnesota were falling apart pretty quickly. Pretty underwhelming last month for both teams.

I'm hoping for a Jets-Packers Super Bowl.

Realistically, if I had to put money down right now, gun to my head.. Chargers-Eagles. But, as a Packer fan, I don't think there's a team we can't beat in the NFC. The Vikings have holes on the OL and the back seven. Green Bay has improved on their deficiencies whereas I think Minnesota's have only become more glaring.

I picked Patriots-Packers before the season (not on here, but whatever, just trust me), so I'm going to stick with that pick since it will make me look super cool (amirite?) if it happened, but if that weirdo turned the gun to me next, I would probably go Chargers-Eagles too.

I going Colts-Cardinals.


My preference would be Bengals-Cowboys.

Mike Leach fired.

And the sound you hear is lawsuits flying everywhere.

It's like 9 pages so pasting here probably wouldn't be the best. I went to http://www.bugmenot.com/view/nytimes.com and the first login displayed worked for me.

The article is extremely interesting, and well-written as expected.

Brett Favre pants on the ground:


http://tv.rightcelebrity.com/?p=3785

God that makes me want to kick him in the nuts.

So I gotta ask you, Minn Fans? Was it worth it? Was it worth selling your soul, to hop aboard the band wagon of a Packers legend and a man you hated for almost 2 decades? Because Brett favre may have made your season, but he destroyed it in the way he almost always does.. by making a big mistake late in the game. That's favre's legacy, and now his stink is spread all over your franchise. You sold your soul as a fan, for this moment right here, Viking fan. Enjoy it.



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Ill start by saying im in no way a Minn fan although they didn win me money today and last week. If you think that Brett Favre lost this game for the Vikings then we were clearly watching different games. The vikings had 3 fumbles and 2 of them inside the 10. On the last drive he converted a 3rd and 8 and then 2 plays later completed a 20 yrd pass to get them into long field goal range. Then Brad Childress had a mental meltdown and they got all conservative from the 33 yrd line. 2 straight runs into the line for no gain. That puts them in a 3rd and 10 and if they dont get a first its still looking like a 49 yrd FG which is no gimme. Now there is a penalty for 12 men in the huddle which forces them clearly out of FG range. They needed around 10-15 yards and he gets pressured and throws a pick. This game should not have been close the Vikings clearly dominated this team but had mental breakdowns around the goal line and couldnt hang onto the football. Basically i blame this loss, on the two fumbles inside the red zone and Brad Childress getting conservative from the NO 33 at the end of the game. Not Brett.

I thought the play that got them into FG range was a run up the middle by Chester for about 10 yards or so. And if they were in FG range, then a 5 yard penalty doesn't mean they need to pick up 10-15 yards, it means they need to pick up 5 yards. But even if you say they need 10-15 yards, he could've picked up at least a good chunk of that by just running for it instead of making a horrendous back across the field throw.

There was certainly a lot of blame to spread around, but Favre clearly needs some of it too.

If you don't blame this loss on favre, you're high. That fumble at the end of the first half was just as much is fault as AP, his first INT was TERRIBLE, into triple coverage, and his final interception is one of the worst passes I've ever seen, in terms of decision making, given the stakes. And he's been doing that for years and years and years. How many seasons has he ended with his final pass being a terrible interception? Favre wasn't the only reason the vikings lost that game, but he was a major contributing factor, and jesus christ that was a god awful pass.

Has anyone mentioned how incredible it was that AP recovered that one fumble? I rewound it and watched it like 10 times. I simply couldn't believe that he came up with it by sheer will.

I mean, yes, not just jogging out of bounds at the Saints 32 and giving Longwell a shot from 50 was a ridiculously bad decision. But Favre outplayed Brees in the Superdome and had an A- season. credit where credit is due.

I'll start giving him credit when the nation media starts acknowledging how many seasons he's ended with an INT.

My uncle is tilting the shit out of me on Facebook. He is the biggest Brett Favre jock strap sniffer in the world, so I really enjoyed last nights ending. I may post some of the stupid stuff for a good laugh.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4995081

Quinn is gone for a 6th round pick in 2011 and a FB (Hillis). (also a possible late round 2012 pick, which I think is based on Quinn's playing time)

http://mondesishouse.blogspot.com/2010/03/...adlines_15.html

McNabb... gone


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5055346

IN THE DIVISION!!!

Incredible. I hope he walks into the Linc and throws 8 TDs.

THIS IS SOOOOOOOO DUMB!! I'm a huge Eagles fan and I can honestly say this is one of the stupidest moves I have ever seen. I just don't understand how you can trade away a QB like McNabb to the REDSKINS (who btw could be very dangerous with a great qb) when you have so many offensive weapons. Jackson, Maclin, Celek, McCoy...immensely talented, yet we seem like we are trying to rebuild. Kolb has potential but he is leaps and bounds away from the experience and talent McNabb has. I seriously hope they aren't waiting for Vick to regain his previous form.


I'm just speechless right now. The 37th overall pick for our starting QB?! I don't know, maybe their is some grand scheme by Eagles management, but as a fan I'm getting the sense they are content with not having a chance at a Super Bowl for the next few years which really bothers me.

I dont get it either.

Already hoping McNabb throws 8 tds in his first visit to the Linc next year.

Yeah he was nothing but a class act his whole time in Philly. What is it....5 NFC Championship Games and 1 Super Bowl appearance in 11 years gets you traded? Granted, he never did win the big one, but come on, how much more successful do you think Kolb or any other new QB is gonna have compared to that.

Me too, what a dumb trade.

I haven't heard a single person say that this was an even half-way intelligent trade. I went on to an Eagles fan site to gauge what other people thought about the trade and I saw they were doing a poll.

Rate the McNabb Trade

A
B
C
D
Incomplete

Almost 45% rated it a D, another 15% rated it incomplete. I don't understand this trade AT ALL and apparently neither does 60% of other Eagles fans.

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpag...220&id=3635
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I think Mike Mayock is one of the better draft analysts, but it annoys the fuck out of me that he has ties in his rankings.

If I was the rep for the NFLPA, I would demand as part of the labor agreement for Rodger Goodell be fired. Ben seems like a huge scumbag to me, but he has been convicted or even charged with absolutely nothing. If you're going to suspend people for 6 games for just being scumbags, you wouldn't be able to staff a 53 man roster

I mean, he certainly is consistent and I like consistent. But there are third-world dictators who are more lenient than this guy. I am 95% sure Big Ben only ends up serving 4 games though. I sort of admire Goodell for having the guts to apply this hard line standard to a star QB of all people but he seems a little (a lot) drunk with power.

LOL broncos.. way to trade away your draft to get what should be a 4th round pick if people were sane. Mark my words, Skelton from Fordham is going to have a better career than Tebow, and is going to get taken about 100 picks after him

No idea who Skelton is, so he may have a better career.

I don't think Tebow will be terrible though if he ever gets to start. Of course, I'm a biased Gators fan, but for someone as athletic as Tebow, I think there's a decent chance he'll do well.

Here is the list of quarterbacks who were inaccurate passers and had successful NFL careers:

Donovan McNabb.



It's not a long list.

I don't see why there is so much Tebow hate. I'm not a Gators fan, I'm not even really a Tebow fan, but its amazing to me how everyone seems to know that he is going to be terrible. Obviously Denver saw something in him that made them want to take him 25th overall. Does that mean he is going to be good? No, but the kid has amazing focus and I think he truly wants to be an NFL player. Not for the money or fame like a lot of guys. He is going to work his butt off to make himself better, learn the system, and help his team. I hope he makes it and can just smile at all the people who laughed.

It's not hate. If Denver drafted another undeserving player at #25 (like Jacksonville taking a mid 2nd round talent at #10), they would get panned too. I want to be an NFL player really badly too. That does not mean people should overlook the fact that I am not capable. Tebow is, by all accounts, a wonderful human being. Going solely by his ability to play QB in the NFL, he should have been taken in the 5th round. Denver took a 5th round talent because they love his intangibles. We will see how that works out. The history of QBs with accuracy problems is.....problematic.

So, I don't follow any of the draft stuff, but was Tebow considered to be inaccurate in college? Or is this based on workouts or something? Because he has a career completion percentage of 66%. That seems pretty good to me.

Workout, tape, etc. Florida's offense did not require much of him in the downfield passing department. He struggles to get past his 1st read and he sprays the football when he throws to the sideline or downfield. You should know as well as anyone that stats lie out of context.

I think scouts underrate his ability to throw the bomb though. If he was sitting at 50, I might be tempted by his intangibles. But at 25? Before Clausen, a guy who spent all year shredding teams in a pro style offense? I dont get it.

It's not like this is anything new. Great college QBs are roundly considered no good for the NFL all the time: Eric Crouch, Ken Dorsey, Charlie Ward, etc.