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SGFULTON83
OK, we are in the money with ~200 people left. No reads on particular villian since he just moved to table. The table was pretty passive so I was picking up some uncontested blinds so my thinking was that although I may be ahead(not sure though with no reads) I could save my chips and still pick up blinds/antes to build my stack. What's your play? Thoughts pre-flop would be good also.


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, Tournament, 400/800 Blinds 75 Ante (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button (t5669)
SB (t5786)
BB (t10647)
UTG (t10125)
UTG+1 (t7806)
MP1 (t72498)
MP2 (t51996)
Hero (MP3) (t21579)
CO (t5395)

Hero's M: 11.51

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 6, 6
4 folds, Hero bets t2000, 3 folds, BB calls t1200

Flop: (t5075) 3, 10, 5 (2 players)
BB bets t8572 (All-In), Hero ???

DonkSlayer
Muck. I'd probably call with a pair of tens +, but you're never going to be waaay ahead here and his shove gives you junky odds.
TrueAce13
I'm snapping. A lot of the time this is missed overs
I_fold08
QUOTE (TrueAce13 @ Saturday, September 19th, 2009, 2:19 PM) *
I'm snapping. A lot of the time this is missed overs

BeaverStyle
QUOTE (TrueAce13 @ Saturday, September 19th, 2009, 2:19 PM) *
I'm snapping. A lot of the time this is missed overs

Don't forget there's only one over-card we need to worry about and there's a flush draw. I call too.
rrumsey
a shove by villain OOP looks a little weak so my gut wants to call and pray for like an A high over cards combo but we could run into some better pocket pairs. We are about a coinflip to overs and a flush draw which would be more likely over card holding i would assume. Im very on the fence here. I guess it depends on if you need a nice run to help your bankroll or not could help, if you have a lot of buyins at this level i would be inclined to call and try to make the deeper run. If the small cash helps your bankroll a decent amount muck it and just try to survive as long as possible
Tehtoe
XXEddie
QUOTE (DonkSlayer @ Saturday, September 19th, 2009, 8:51 AM) *
Muck. I'd probably call with a pair of tens +, but you're never going to be waaay ahead here and his shove gives you junky odds.


Were waaaaaay ahead vs. A3, A5, 56s, 43s, 45s, 44, 22, and missed overs.
donk4life
This is a fistpumpslamthekeyboardruboneout call.
SGFULTON83
OK, so the conclusion is that I should have snap-called. I ended up folding(I suck) and right after I folded I questioned my decision. I continued on and then with ~50 left this hand came up and was wondering if this was a shove? I think it is, but what about if the limper(MP2) had raised like 3x instead? Is it still a shove? I was new to the table only having been there a few hands.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, Tournament, 2000/4000 Blinds 400 Ante (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button (t195271)
Hero (SB) (t49286)
BB (t194975)
UTG (t51418)
UTG+1 (t36836)
MP1 (t27700)
MP2 (t80692)
CO (t99328)

Hero's M: 5.36

Preflop: Hero is SB with A, 6
3 folds, MP2 calls t4000, 2 folds, Hero ???
Darth Maple
QUOTE (SGFULTON83 @ Sunday, September 20th, 2009, 5:50 AM) *
OK, so the conclusion is that I should have snap-called. I ended up folding(I suck) and right after I folded I questioned my decision. I continued on and then with ~50 left this hand came up and was wondering if this was a shove? I think it is, but what about if the limper(MP2) had raised like 3x instead? Is it still a shove? I was new to the table only having been there a few hands.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, Tournament, 2000/4000 Blinds 400 Ante (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button (t195271)
Hero (SB) (t49286)
BB (t194975)
UTG (t51418)
UTG+1 (t36836)
MP1 (t27700)
MP2 (t80692)
CO (t99328)

Hero's M: 5.36

Preflop: Hero is SB with A, 6
3 folds, MP2 calls t4000, 2 folds, Hero ???


I shove this one all day long.
Sick Boy
2nd had is a standard shove. First hand is an all in preflop imo.
SwolyswoND
QUOTE (Sick Boy @ Sunday, September 20th, 2009, 7:36 AM) *
First hand is an all in preflop imo.


Hero has over 25 BBs. It is nowhere close to jam or fold time.
tbrick412
first hand icallicallicallicall... second hand idk for sure
Sick Boy
QUOTE (SwolyswoND @ Sunday, September 20th, 2009, 8:14 AM) *
Hero has over 25 BBs. It is nowhere close to jam or fold time.


Yes it is.

But you could make a case for either play, niether is entirely wrong, as is the case with most situations in poker.
SwolyswoND
Call me close minded if you want. I've actually opened up a little bit to advice from Tehtoe and other elite players that open jamming 15 BB is acceptable, and up to 20ish in bvb.

But I will never, ever, ever, start open jamming with 25 BB. It's just not value maximizing poker.
Fade2241
QUOTE (Sick Boy @ Monday, September 21st, 2009, 1:28 AM) *
Yes it is.

But you could make a case for either play, niether is entirely wrong, as is the case with most situations in poker.


lol
Tehtoe
boning in 25 bbs w/ 66 would be atrocious here.

What tournament is this? I lean towards call b/c i hate getting stop and go'd and I think he has enough overs/air in his range that makes this ok.
donk4life
QUOTE (Sick Boy @ Monday, September 21st, 2009, 3:28 AM) *
Yes it is.

But you could make a case for either play, niether is entirely wrong, as is the case with most situations in poker.

No, you couldn't. Jamming 25 bbs with 66 is not optimal, AT ALL. If you think it is then your logic is seriously skewed.
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