I agree Mick needs to think about winning now but I think whoever organizes the blindside to get rid of Russell wins the game at this stage. It's a toss up between natalie, mick & jaison although I definitely rank Jaison at the bottom of the list (He's been the most disappointing player of the season). Mick was also his tribe leader for half of the game and if he comes up with how to get rid of russell he'd beat Natalie imo.

If Mick goes into final four with Dave and Monica, he's still in the same shape, maybe worse, than if he were in final four with Jaison, Russell and Natalie.

Also if anyone remembers from the recap show, Natalie is voting any way that Russell votes. She's hoping to at least get to final 2 with Rus.

Anyone think it would be funny if Shambo somehow slid in to the finals and won? Man that'd be depressing.

I just think Mick would have a better chance to win up against Jaison, Monica, and Brett (not Dave he needs to go)... instead of being up against Russel, Natalie, and Jaison. I think Monica can be easily swayed and would take a deal to go to the final 3 with Mick and Jaison.. instead of sticking with Brett and picking stones if there is a tie. I just don't see Mick winning with the alliance he is in now, and again I don't even see him making it to the final 4 with the alliance he's in now. I guess we will have to agree to disagree on this though.

The chicks are starting to get really annoying at Ponderosa. They all got outplayed by Russel, and all they are doing is blaming each other for screwing each other over. Kelly and Laura screwed Erik. Kelly got screwed by the immunity idol. John screwed Laura. The only one who should be pissed off at everyone is Erik.

I can't see any scenario with Shambo winning.

Yeah the whole Ponderosa stuff is just lol. Laura and Kelly were pissed off at Eric because he kept bringing up the question as to why he was voted off. Now Laura and Kelly are doing the same thing with John. They keep bringing it up and John is like "It's over with, let's move on." I really hate Laura more now.

Shambo is a moron and Russell can play her like a violin. Russell knew if he told her the chances were good that she would let the cat out of the bag. Better to ask for forgiveness than permission. He got rid of the biggest threat from the other tribe and can offer her up Dave this week and all will be fine.

If she makes it to the finals, you should pay double your bet that she wouldn't make top 10 lol




I tend to agree. Russell can "share" some info to bring her back, she's just that dumb.

Previews are showing 2 tribal councils this Thursday.

well they have to get rid of the extra people somehow

yea just sucks for me since I bet someone that Russel would not use the idol in the next episode. I probably wouldn't had made that bet if I knew about the 2 tribal councils beforehand.

Is there a link?

Two going home on Survivor this week...(Dec. 10th)

I kind of agree with this. I think he has a decent chance of doing damage control. Hard to see Shambo flip again. She really doesn't like Monica anymore than Dave or Laura.

Russell had his mind made up that John was next the episode before when he agreed a Foa-Foa member would go next. No way he was doing that.

I'm going out on a limb to say that it's Jaison who goes all spazolla at one of the tribals this week...

So there is this week, next week and then the finale on Sunday the 20th.

So 8 are left, 2 gone this week makes 6. After next week there will be 5 (possibly 4) going in to the sunday finale. It feels like it's going to wrap up too quick without seeing all the details but I'm excited for tonight at least.

Good. We finally got rid of worthless Monica.

And LOL at her thinking she did something great shaking up the game. Yeah, I'm sure this was the 1st time Jaison and Mick were wary of Russell.


Could be a little scrambling soon, but I still don't see it. They can edit the previews to make things look crazy, but look at tonight. Everything went pretty much textbook for Foa Foa. Kept Shambo happy and voted off Dave, then I'm sure the target was Brett, since he won immunity they took out Monica.

Next week they've got to still be targeting Brett. You've GOT to get rid of him next time he doesn't win immunity with all 6 jury members old Galu. He's way too popular with them.

And even though they show talk of going after Russell, that's gonna be real tough to pull off while he can still use the idol (next 2 tribals I believe).

I'm interested in seeing what happens if they get rid of Brett next week. Does Russell form a final 3 with Shambo and Natalie as many (including myself) suspect? Or do the original Foa Foa 4 say "Thanks for helping us flip the game, bye bye Shambo"? They have been a tight 4 person alliance for awhile now.

I keep going in circles on this, both scenarios seem pretty plausible. The easiest win for Russell is Shanbo and Natalie, but I think he knows he can beat everyone left except possibly Brett. So at that point, from his point of view, it all comes down to who he (Russell) thinks he can trust, and I don't think we can tell that from the edits we see on TV.

The episode started off on a great note with Russell immediately deflecting Shanbo as easily as swatting a gnat. He has her number, 100%, even though he's probably more dishonest to her than anyone. It's really kind of amusing. Dance, puppet, dance.

I think Mick and Jaison have waited too long. Mick knows he should pull the trigger, but he can't do it. The only chance they have is if they can somehow pull Natalie to their side. If not Russel is winning this season.

I'm glad that Russel telling everyone his occupation has somewhat came back to haunt him. He should have kept that to himself.

Was this the first time Brett talked at tribal council? I didn't like that Laura was saying "stay strong" to him. They should make the jury leave first so they can't say things to people still in the game.

lol at Shambo still thinking she is running the show.

Yup. I think that was part of the reasoning behind Russell pulling out the hidden idol and wearing it at tribal. He was practically challenging Mick and Jaison, like "Go ahead, try something, fuckfaces, see what happens."

I think it was obvious that he wasn't going to do it though. If there was a plan before tribal to vote out Russel I would have still wrote his name down when he pulled out the idol. Even if he did use the idol Monica would have gone home anyways because all of Russel's votes would have been flushed out. They had nothing to lose. At this point I think Mick and Jaison really think that Russel wants to take them to the end, they shouldn't want to go to the end with Russel though. Just doesn't make sense to me.

Right.

I think some of the earlier talk/ruffling Russell earlier was to try and convince him to waste the idol even when nobody was voting for him. If they could flush it out with no risk, bonus for them.

GOD I CAN'T WAIT TIL THE LIVE REUNION SHOW!!!!!!!

Going to be so awesome to see everyone's reaction to how Russell has really been and the shit he has been saying about everyone behind their backs; specifically the Dumb Bitch Alliance and the way he has done Shambo.

GG Dave, lasted longer than you should have.

Bye Monica...I never had any false hopes you'd make it to a money spot for me, but it was a pleasure to watch you...

Russell: Nice dare with the idol thing; nice pre-emptive strike approaching Dave to tell him it was Shambo who had to go(this seemed to end any notion of Brett, Monica and Dave rallying to get either Jaison or Mick or both to go after Russell); nice move NOT to play the idol, even though tension must have been something...very good read, sir.

Shambo: Go back to sleep and have another dream.

Jaison/Mick: Better keep winning immunity...the Eye is upon you

Brett: Hi, bubble boy

Nathalie: Stick with Russell

WHY?!?!? Russel makes it to the final 3 it is game over. Nobody should want to be aligned with Russel right now.

I see your point, but Natalie can't win anyway, against anybody. She might as well try to ride Russell into 2nd place.

$100K is still not bad money for 5 or 6 weeks in the jungle

1st, $1,000,000
2nd, $100,000
3rd, $85,000
4th, $70,000
5th, $55,000
6th, $45,000
7th, $35,000
8th, $27,500
9th, $20,000
10th, $15,000
11th, $10,000
12th, $7,500
13th, $5,500
14th, $4,500
15th, $3,500
16th, $2,500

I don't agree with this. She was the one responsible for getting Erik off. She has done well in immunity challenges (until the last few weeks because her body is desinegrating. I'd vote for her over Jaison, Mick, and Shambo.

Maybe that was just me trying to stack the deck for Russell (in my mind), clearly the most deserving Survivor this year and, without a doubt, one of the best in the 8 or 9 seasons I've seen.

Natalie's best plan would probably be to side with Jaison and Mick once they get rid of Brett. On the other hand, she may realise that this move would put her in the minority, so...

Is she better off in a two person alliance and Russell's bum-girl or in a 3 person alliance in which she's the odd person out.

On a side note, never in my life have I seen a person who looked as athletic as Jaison perform so poorly in every single physical challenge. He would have lost the rope challenge if he hadn't had the advantage. Kid's got an ego on him, too.

I think there will be a final 3 this season which means it doesn't matter if she is the minority in a 3 person alliance with Jaison and Mick. There would be 9 people in the jury with a final 3, and 10 with a final 2.

Being on Survivor takes a toll on some people more than others. Remember that episode where it didn't stop raining for like 4 days straight and Jaison almost wanted to quit. The game has been hard on him. It is hard to prepare for something so draining like Survivor, even if you are a star athlete. But I agree with expecting more out of him. I know a lot of D1 water polo players and they are the most athletic people I know.

Yes to all of this.

Everyone HAS to know they can't beat Russell. However, at this point it is too late. I think the cute blonde is his most loyal follower. No way she turns. Shambo is way too stoopid to do anything. She'll believe him no matter what. It looks like Jayson is content to wait and go along with Russell.

Finally !!

... wat?

He's happy it's Survivor Thursday.

We call it Happy Russel Day !!

I had my first ever survivor dream last night. I was actually playing the game and teamed up with russell. Although the environment was different then any season I've seen, there were islands all around and we took a canoe trip looking for the idol on different islands lol!!

Then I woke up to my baby crying @ 5am and life sucked.

At least Russell can't blindside you IRL

Mine taught himself to turn over onto his stomach, but gets completely freaked out when he wakes up on his stomach. Asleep to screaming terrified in a few seconds 4 times last night. My own little personal version of survivor.

Gonna mss tonight's episode.
No matter if Russell makes it to Final 2 or 3, I'm looking forward to the reunion show. Russell's going to be confronted by everyone and how he referred to them as dumb blondes, puppets, Monica as a bitch. So much good this weekend.

I don't think anyone will be suprised. Monica should know what Russell thinks of her after the last tribal.

The only one who I can see being hurt is Natalie since she has seemed to have his back the whole game. Probably Shambo also, but she doesn't count because she is unstable.

My guy at 14 months was tugging on my blankets at 2 am wanting to play. He didn't go back to sleep untill 3 ! I got some great cuddle time so it was ok.

Well Monica shouldn't be surprised at least.

She is a worthless bitch.

For Russell, I agree with the decision to get rid of Shambo instead of Mick. The only person that could possibly beat Russell is Brett, and Russell needs all the help he can get in the next 2 immunity challenges.

Just watched Ponderosa, it seems like the majority loooves Brett. He needs to go. Lol at Kelly and Laura acting like high schoolers and not wanting to talk to Shambo. Laura you're 40... grow the **** up.

Like Shambo said, they turned on themselves, and that's not Shambo's fault.

You need to learn how to swaddle him so the blanket doesn't break open at night. That way he can't turn over. Of course, if he's older than say 8 months, then you have a different situation.



I don't think anyone will be hurt. It's obvious that he likes Natalie now and has liked her for some time. He said that way at the beginning before he even knew her name.

Also, Shambo will not be upset at all. Hell, didn't you see her exit speech? She was super happy and positive about the whole thing, and I would lay money that she would have IMMEDIATELY voted Russell the million dollars, as she was walking away after getting kicked out.

Next season they should make this change. When a player gets voted off and becomes a jury member, that player must declare who they wouldn't vote for to receive the million. If the player changes their mind in the final tribal council and actually wants to vote for that person, the vote only counts as half?

something like that to throw in another wrinkle.

he's 5 months but he's way ahead of every curve (especially size wise, he's the size of an average 8 month old) and has been sleeping without a swaddle for a few weeks after he turned himself completely over while swaddled.

as for survivor, i think the guys simply have to vote out russell next tribal no matter what. alliances be damned, if he doesn't win immunity he has to go.

I came down stairs and my little guy had never even gone to bed. He and his three friends played Xbox all night. Oh he's 19 and home from his first semester of school.

They have to vote Brett out if he looses immunity. He is a shoe in with the jury.

Otherwise Russell has to do some mad scrambling because he is the obvious next vote.

I really think it is too late for everyone... if they vote out Russell, Brett is going to win. If they vote out Brett, Russell is going to win. Game over.

Monica and Kelly 3some imo