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speedz99
QUOTE (El Guapo @ Monday, December 28th, 2009, 9:45 AM) *
Wow, just Wow. I took a couple of pills for my back, snuck in a fifth of Captain and made a night of it.


Hmm, pain pills, nice call.

QUOTE (JoeyJoJo @ Monday, December 28th, 2009, 9:48 AM) *
This is the future of movies, right? As far as how they're going to look?


I would assume so...my bet is that in five years most movies will be 3D. You heard it here first!
brvheart
QUOTE (speedz99 @ Monday, December 28th, 2009, 11:47 AM) *
I would assume so...my bet is that in five years most movies will be 3D. You heard it here first!


Actually, I heard it first from James Cameron about 4 years ago.
speedz99
QUOTE (brvheart @ Monday, December 28th, 2009, 10:54 AM) *
Actually, I heard it first from James Cameron about 4 years ago.


Four years ago James Cameron said that in nine years most movies will be 3D? He really is a visionary...and specific.
vbnautilus
Question about the 3D technology.

My understanding is that the images are sent to the two separate eyes by polarization in the glasses? Vertical vs. horizontal or something like that? My question is, if we had these polarized glasses could we watch this in 3D on our tvs at home or was the projection also somehow specialized?
El Guapo
QUOTE (vbnautilus @ Monday, December 28th, 2009, 10:48 AM) *
Question about the 3D technology.

My understanding is that the images are sent to the two separate eyes by polarization in the glasses? Vertical vs. horizontal or something like that? My question is, if we had these polarized glasses could we watch this in 3D on our tvs at home or was the projection also somehow specialized?



I don't think James Cameron reads this thread.
JoeyJoJo
"The first 3D-enabled Blu-ray players will likely debut at the Consumer Electronics Show in January."


Link
runthemover
has anyone here seen it in both regular and 3D? I saw it in regular and while it looked nice, I wasn't exactly [censored] (damn nazi mods). It wouldn't be hard to watch it again I 'spose but I'm wondering if it was the medium or a case of "it's not you. it's me".
El Guapo
I don't know if anyone here watches Bones, but a month or so ago, they had an episode that was centered around going to see Avatar. I just thought it was major product placement, but one of the main characters (the guy who was initially was along side the main character) was in the Bones episode. I thought it was interesting that a TV show did that with one of their characters.
king_tanner
QUOTE (runthemover @ Monday, December 28th, 2009, 12:08 PM) *
has anyone here seen it in both regular and 3D? I saw it in regular and while it looked nice, I wasn't exactly [censored] (damn nazi mods). It wouldn't be hard to watch it again I 'spose but I'm wondering if it was the medium or a case of "it's not you. it's me".


I haven't seen it in regular, but you should probably bite the bullet and see it again in 3-d. The visuals were pretty amazing. I think a big part of it was the 3-d.
king_tanner
QUOTE (JoeyJoJo @ Monday, December 28th, 2009, 11:53 AM) *
"The first 3D-enabled Blu-ray players will likely debut at the Consumer Electronics Show in January."


Link


lol I knew this was going to happen. When I got my first dvd player blue ray came out. I just got blue ray now this is coming out. DAMN YOU TECHNOLOGY!
JoeyJoJo
QUOTE (king_tanner @ Monday, December 28th, 2009, 12:21 PM) *
I haven't seen it in regular, but you should probably bite the bullet and see it again in 3-d. The visuals were pretty amazing. I think a big part of it was the 3-d.

It seemed like this movie focused on creating depth going inward moreso than coming out at you. They didn't go for those jumping out at you moments. It was more like watching a play on a stage with amazing set design.
El Guapo
QUOTE (JoeyJoJo @ Monday, December 28th, 2009, 12:27 PM) *
It seemed like this movie focused on creating depth going inward moreso than coming out at you. They didn't go for those jumping out at you moments. It was more like watching a play on a stage with amazing set design.



I agree with that. I was pretty much entranced the entire movie.

I will probably try and see this again in the theater.
HollywoodAFD
QUOTE (speedz99 @ Sunday, December 27th, 2009, 3:05 PM) *
Calling them "hidden messages" is insulting to audience members. There's nothing hidden about it.

But who cares? Who's going to argue that humans don't tend to use technology to overrun and oppress any populations (human or otherwise) that aren't able to defend themselves? And who's going to argue that that's a positive trait?

That's pretty much how America was founded.

I want what you have...you're stupid...here's a shiny object I'll trade you for it....if you don't take the deal... I'll kill you.
Pretty basic strategy IMO.
brvheart
QUOTE (speedz99 @ Monday, December 28th, 2009, 12:18 PM) *
Four years ago James Cameron said that in nine years most movies will be 3D? He really is a visionary...and specific.


Well actually, he was even better than that. He said something at a movie mogul convention that if everyone wanted to have jobs in the future they would need to start investing in 3d immediately.

QUOTE (JoeyJoJo @ Monday, December 28th, 2009, 1:53 PM) *
"The first 3D-enabled Blu-ray players will likely debut at the Consumer Electronics Show in January."


Link


I honestly don't believe that 3d will catch-on in homes until they can figure out how to make it work without glasses. I think that is going to be an issue for theaters also... but they will get a pass for a few years.

QUOTE (JoeyJoJo @ Monday, December 28th, 2009, 2:27 PM) *
It seemed like this movie focused on creating depth going inward moreso than coming out at you. They didn't go for those jumping out at you moments. It was more like watching a play on a stage with amazing set design.


Totally agree, and this is how I sold my dad on seeing it. (He goes to movies about once every 8-10 years) The visuals were incredible.
vbnautilus
QUOTE (brvheart @ Monday, December 28th, 2009, 10:29 PM) *
I honestly don't believe that 3d will catch-on in homes until they can figure out how to make it work without glasses. I think that is going to be an issue for theaters also... but they will get a pass for a few years.


Do the glasses really bother you? I have no problem wearing them.

And as much as they say they are working on glasses-less technologies, I don't really buy that it's right around the corner. The solutions I have seen involve projecting different images to the two eyes by means of angled pixels in the screen, which also requires that your eye be at just the right spot. It's just not an easy problem to solve, and I think some unobtrusive glasses are going to be how its done for some time. They may even make more fashionable ones...
brvheart
QUOTE (vbnautilus @ Tuesday, December 29th, 2009, 12:33 AM) *
Do the glasses really bother you?


No, not at all. Of course, I'm not everyone else in the world. (My dad hates them)

QUOTE (vbnautilus @ Tuesday, December 29th, 2009, 12:33 AM) *
And as much as they say they are working on glasses-less technologies, I don't really buy that it's right around the corner. The solutions I have seen involve projecting different images to the two eyes by means of angled pixels in the screen, which also requires that your eye be at just the right spot. It's just not an easy problem to solve, and I think some unobtrusive glasses are going to be how its done for some time. They may even make more fashionable ones...


I agree again. I don't think it's right around the corner, but I don't think it will really 'win' in homes until it does.
brvheart
"Avatar," the 3-D epic, topped them all, earning $75 million for 20th Century Fox, according to studio estimates Sunday. Remarkably, that was only a 3 percent drop from its opening weekend total of $77.4 million. (Blockbusters typically drop 30-50 percent in the second weekend.) In its 10 days of release, "Avatar" has made $212 million domestically - and could be on its way to a worldwide gross of over $1 billion.

Worldwide gross after 10 days of release stands at $617 million.
king_tanner
About the glasses. I saw another 3-d movie a few months back where they gave us glasses to keep. At Avatar they gave us theater glasses that had to be given back at the end. Of course I got the smudgiest piece of shit glasses ever. I was spending the first 30 min of the movie trying to clean them so I could see clearly. Really pissed me off.
brvheart
QUOTE (king_tanner @ Tuesday, December 29th, 2009, 1:03 AM) *
About the glasses. I saw another 3-d movie a few months back where they gave us glasses to keep. At Avatar they gave us theater glasses that had to be given back at the end. Of course I got the smudgiest piece of shit glasses ever. I was spending the first 30 min of the movie trying to clean them so I could see clearly. Really pissed me off.


Your local theater sucks.
king_tanner
QUOTE (brvheart @ Monday, December 28th, 2009, 11:22 PM) *
Your local theater sucks.


What is sad is that there are like 8 theaters in the county. Only the shittiest theater has a 3-d screen so I was forced to see it there.

There are also 2 Imax theaters that are both about 30 min away that I would have been happy to drive to. Both not showing Avatar.
El Guapo
QUOTE (king_tanner @ Tuesday, December 29th, 2009, 12:10 AM) *
There are also 2 Imax theaters that are both about 30 min away that I would have been happy to drive to. Both not showing Avatar.



...
SBriand
Yeah we have 3 IMAX theaters around me and the two biggest ones are not showing it. One still has Star Trek.
brvheart
Our Imax is showing Polar Express. No homo.
king_tanner
QUOTE (brvheart @ Tuesday, December 29th, 2009, 10:42 PM) *
Our Imax is showing Polar Express. No homo.


Saw it in the theater.

<--homo
CrookedLink
Do any of you Chicago people know of any Imax around that's showing this besides the one at Navy Pier. Cause tickets are sold out for the next few days there.
vbnautilus
QUOTE (CrookedLink @ Tuesday, December 29th, 2009, 11:48 PM) *
Do any of you Chicago people know of any Imax around that's showing this besides the one at Navy Pier. Cause tickets are sold out for the next few days there.


go to http://www.imax.com it lists all the theatres where it is playing.
Poppy_Hillis
One day all we will need are some sort of high-end glasses to watch movies or sporting events. My grandkids will ask for the new Cameron's for Christmas. Then I will tell them the story of how I went to see Avatar...in a movie theater, with other people. Crazy, right? We had to wear these cheap plastic glasses while we sat there watching the movie on a large screen, the same screen everybody else was watching. And all it cost was $16.50. You know how we got there? We drove there...in our cars...that used gasoline.

I hated this movie as soon as I got home and turned on the Laker game in HD, and it looked retarded. HD sucks, I need 3D everywhere. Now.
El Guapo
QUOTE (Poppy_Hillis @ Wednesday, December 30th, 2009, 5:30 AM) *
One day all we will need are some sort of high-end glasses to watch movies or sporting events. My grandkids will ask for the new Cameron's for Christmas. Then I will tell them the story of how I went to see Avatar...in a movie theater, with other people. Crazy, right? We had to wear these cheap plastic glasses while we sat there watching the movie on a large screen, the same screen everybody else was watching. And all it cost was $16.50. You know how we got there? We drove there...in our cars...that used gasoline.

I hated this movie as soon as I got home and turned on the Laker game in HD, and it looked retarded. HD sucks, I need 3D everywhere. Now.



Well, you were watching a Lakers game.
hblask
Just saw this movie and read this thread, and I really, really wish I had seen it in 3D. I thought only certain theaters had it in 3D, but it turns out the local theater has it, just not at the time I went.

This movie really has pushed movies to a new level, even in 2D. The SFX were so seamless and complete and encompassing.

As for the writing.... there was a section in the middle where I was ready to be done with the touchy feely nature crap. Also, could the characters be any more one-dimensional?

Anyway, despite those flaws, I really enjoyed this, and probably have to see it in 3D now.

I'm really looking forward to 5 years from now when someone makes a movie this fantastic and magical, but with a plot and writing that could belong in great traditional movies, like Shawshank, or Adaptation.

I agree that Avatar is a turning point in movies. It's amazing how easily it sucks you into what should be a cartoon world.
brvheart
QUOTE (hblask @ Wednesday, December 30th, 2009, 11:23 PM) *
Just saw this movie and read this thread, and I really, really wish I had seen it in 3D. I thought only certain theaters had it in 3D, but it turns out the local theater has it, just not at the time I went.

This movie really has pushed movies to a new level, even in 2D. The SFX were so seamless and complete and encompassing.

As for the writing.... there was a section in the middle where I was ready to be done with the touchy feely nature crap. Also, could the characters be any more one-dimensional?

Anyway, despite those flaws, I really enjoyed this, and probably have to see it in 3D now.

I'm really looking forward to 5 years from now when someone makes a movie this fantastic and magical, but with a plot and writing that could belong in great traditional movies, like Shawshank, or Adaptation.

I agree that Avatar is a turning point in movies. It's amazing how easily it sucks you into what should be a cartoon world.



You haven't seen it yet. I'm serious.
IQCrash
Has anyone seen this in both Real D and IMAX 3D? If so, how different is the experience between the two?
brvheart
QUOTE (IQCrash @ Thursday, December 31st, 2009, 3:15 AM) *
Has anyone seen this in both Real D and IMAX 3D? If so, how different is the experience between the two?


Apparently only a relatively small number of IMAX theaters are showing this movie. My guess is that they don't all have 3D projectors. I think only LLY has seen it in IMAX so far, so he's the one to ask.


Only one IMAX in my whole state is showing Avatar.
vbnautilus
QUOTE (hblask @ Wednesday, December 30th, 2009, 9:23 PM) *
Just saw this movie and read this thread, and I really, really wish I had seen it in 3D.

...

Also, could the characters be any more one-dimensional?


heh.
speedz99
QUOTE (brvheart @ Thursday, December 31st, 2009, 2:34 AM) *
Apparently only a relatively small number of IMAX theaters are showing this movie. My guess is that they don't all have 3D projectors. I think only LLY has seen it in IMAX so far, so he's the one to ask.


QUOTE (speedz99 @ Saturday, December 19th, 2009, 1:33 PM) *
I'm going to the IMAX 3D next saturday night.


QUOTE (speedz99 @ Sunday, December 27th, 2009, 11:47 AM) *
I saw it at an IMAX 3D place that's in a furniture store, where the seats are made out of memory foam and have built in "buttkicker" speakers, which was nice.


:runs away sobbing:
king_tanner
QUOTE (brvheart @ Thursday, December 31st, 2009, 1:34 AM) *
Only one IMAX in my whole state is showing Avatar.


Am I the only one who really thought you were from Japan?
Voldemort
QUOTE (brvheart @ Thursday, December 31st, 2009, 12:31 AM) *
You haven't seen it yet. I'm serious.

SO QFT
El Guapo
I saw it in I-MAX 3D. I took off the glasses here and there, and well lets just say there is no comparison.
Fluffdog87
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=avatar.htm

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/weeke...ge=2&p=.htm

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/world/

I think Avatar is going to have pretty strong staying power in theaters.
HollywoodAFD
QUOTE (king_tanner @ Tuesday, December 29th, 2009, 1:03 AM) *
About the glasses. I saw another 3-d movie a few months back where they gave us glasses to keep. At Avatar they gave us theater glasses that had to be given back at the end. Of course I got the smudgiest piece of shit glasses ever. I was spending the first 30 min of the movie trying to clean them so I could see clearly. Really pissed me off.



QUOTE (brvheart @ Tuesday, December 29th, 2009, 1:22 AM) *
Your local theater sucks.

This ^^

Every 3-D I go to ... we get new glasses (recycled)
You can keep them (my kids did) or put them in the recycle bin.

The new polarized glasses are so much better than the old red/green paper glasses.
3-D has come a long way.
king_tanner
QUOTE (HollywoodAFD @ Saturday, January 2nd, 2010, 9:48 AM) *
Every 3-D I go to ... we get new glasses (recycled)


um recycled means they have been used right? So they are not new?
brvheart
QUOTE (king_tanner @ Thursday, December 31st, 2009, 2:57 PM) *
Am I the only one who really thought you were from Japan?


Probably. er... I mean... I am from Japan.

QUOTE (king_tanner @ Saturday, January 2nd, 2010, 12:42 PM) *
um recycled means they have been used right? So they are not new?


:eyeroll:

My milk carton is recycled AND new... just like my 3D glasses.
myenemy
QUOTE (vbnautilus @ Tuesday, December 29th, 2009, 1:33 AM) *
Do the glasses really bother you? I have no problem wearing them.

And as much as they say they are working on glasses-less technologies, I don't really buy that it's right around the corner. The solutions I have seen involve projecting different images to the two eyes by means of angled pixels in the screen, which also requires that your eye be at just the right spot. It's just not an easy problem to solve, and I think some unobtrusive glasses are going to be how its done for some time. They may even make more fashionable ones...

I thnk at some point if every movie that comes out is in 3-D, every person will just have their own pair of awesome glasses that they bring to the theatres with them.

QUOTE (El Guapo @ Friday, January 1st, 2010, 11:29 PM) *
I saw it in I-MAX 3D. I took off the glasses here and there, and well lets just say there is no comparison.

I saw it in IMAX 3-D as well, it was thrilling but, and I think this goes for everyone who saw it in 3-D, you cant compare the diff between IMAX and reg by taking the glasses off when youre watching something in 3-D because its just going to be a blurry image no matter what resolution youre watching in.

Also, Unobtainiam? Really? Thats just lazy.
speedz99
QUOTE (myenemy @ Monday, January 4th, 2010, 7:10 AM) *
Also, Unobtainiam? Really? Thats just lazy.


Haha...thank you, I forgot to mention that. Lazy indeed.
LongLiveYorke
QUOTE (myenemy @ Monday, January 4th, 2010, 10:10 AM) *
you cant compare the diff between IMAX and reg by taking the glasses off when youre watching something in 3-D because its just going to be a blurry image no matter what resolution youre watching in.


You could close one eye to eliminate the 3-d and avoid the blurry.
myenemy
QUOTE (LongLiveYorke @ Monday, January 4th, 2010, 12:18 PM) *
You could close one eye to eliminate the 3-d and avoid the blurry.

Touche.
El Guapo
QUOTE (El Guapo @ Monday, December 28th, 2009, 8:45 AM) *
Wow, just Wow. I took a couple of pills for my back, snuck in a fifth of Captain and made a night of it. That movie was phenomenal, as speeds said, not the story line, but the experience. This will ruin other movies for awhile for me.


So for some reason I think I need to clarify something.

If the visual experience had not been so magnificent, I would have hated this movie.
brvheart
QUOTE (El Guapo @ Monday, January 4th, 2010, 11:30 AM) *
So for some reason I think I need to clarify something.

If the visual experience had not been so magnificent, I would have hated this movie.


You didn't need to clarify, everyone except King Tanner and Gov are right there with you.
king_tanner
QUOTE (brvheart @ Monday, January 4th, 2010, 11:11 AM) *
You didn't need to clarify, everyone except King Tanner and Gov are right there with you.


?

I don't think I would have hated it, but I wouldn't have been so excited about it without the amazing visuals. The movie was all about the amazing visuals in my opinion.

I think Gov mentioned in the top 20 thread that he hasn't seen Avatar yet so I don't understand your statement brv, or joke if that is what it is.
El Guapo
QUOTE (king_tanner @ Monday, January 4th, 2010, 11:25 AM) *
?

I don't think I would have hated it, but I wouldn't have been so excited about it without the amazing visuals. The movie was all about the amazing visuals in my opinion.

I think Gov mentioned in the top 20 thread that he hasn't seen Avatar yet so I don't understand your statement brv, or joke if that is what it is.



I actually had to think about it a little bit afterward to realize how awful the story and writing really were. Plus the "messages" they tried to send were exceedingly annoying.

The anti-war, anti-capitalism, pro mother earth stuff was unbearable at points. They actually even said "Shock and Awe" and a couple other things I rolled my eyes above my lovely 3D glass for.

Unobtanium and Pandora are just the epitomy of lazy writing, along with numerous other things.


But, I didn't care because blue shiny hot chicks were jumping around and they had an orgy tree.
mrdannyg
I just want to thank almost everyone that has posted here. Like many of you, I enjoyed watching the movie, but found the plot and writing hilariously bad. "Lazy" is very accurate. And yet, nearly all of my friends and family seem to think the epic awesomeness of the movie is aided by the plot, instead of hindered. They talk as if it were genius, as if it were a cutting but subtle criticism of America's wars.

I just want to thank you all for assuring me that I am not completely crazy, and that if this movie did not have super-awesome visuals, it would've been a horrible piece of crap.
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