keith crime
Saturday, August 15th, 2009, 10:29 AM
Time’s top 10Supposedly, this is a tribute to Les Paul.
It’s pretty hard to **** up a top ten list this badly, you have to really work hard.
Putting Slash at number 2 is a good start.
Leaving off Eddie Van Halen gets you very close to home.
This entry though seals the deal.
Yngwie Malmsteen
The Swede’s superfast “neo-Classical” style —he credits Bach and Paganini as influences—is a blur of scales and technical precision. It almost makes you forget that the great bulk of his music is so fast that it’s unlistenable.
Uh, if most of his music is unlistenable, then he isn’t a very good guitar player. This isn’t Guitar Hero - you don’t get masturbation points.
outsider13
Saturday, August 15th, 2009, 11:17 AM
This list is absolutely horrible. How can Eddie VH get left off that list??? I like Malmsteen personally, but hes more of a classically trained rocker. If you include him, you may as well include Nuno Bettencourt. I'd put Randy Rhoads well above Malmsteen.
Van Halen and even Randy Rhoads revolutionized metal. I guess nobody cares though.
outsider13
Saturday, August 15th, 2009, 11:25 AM
Just looked at Rolling Stone's top 100
QUOTE
70 Eddie Van Halen
The sound-obsessed Van Halen makes even simple lines sound like towering chorales and pioneered all kinds of tricks, such as fingers hammering the fretboard. Van Halen sought something different from his rock peers: music that was defiantly arty, but never so much so that it lost touch with devastating hooks.
I guess I was right, nobody cares.
Pot Odds RAC
Saturday, August 15th, 2009, 11:37 AM
Yeah. The Rolling Stones list was terribad. I like Jack White, but putting him in the top ten...? And EVH @ 70 way below Joan Jett?!?!?!?
...but that Time list is just stoopid. No EVH and no SRV kills it.
timwakefield
Saturday, August 15th, 2009, 11:49 AM
I feel like Time's top 10 is not in order, it's just their 10 favorites. The only reason I think that is because they start you at #1. I mean, I guess I'm torn because Jimi should absolutely without question be #1 on that list (and he seemingly is), but what kind of list starts at #1 and then gets worse!?
theresa113
Saturday, August 15th, 2009, 1:21 PM
Where is Nancy Wilson of Heart? I mean, the intro to Crazy On You is pure genius.
Mercury69
Monday, August 17th, 2009, 8:33 AM
My favorite guitarists:
Frank Zappa
Justin Hayward (Moody Blues)
Danny Gatton
Jimmy Page
Mick Ronson (Bowie, Stones, Rolling Thunder Revue, etc)
Adrian Belew (Talking Heads, Bowie, Zappa, etc)
Kurt Cobain
ajs510
Monday, August 17th, 2009, 8:41 AM
Holy thrown together piece of dogshit.
Les Paul himself would never place his name in consideration as a top 10 electric guitarist of all time, that's just absurd. Chuck Berry's ego would claim that he's top 10, but there's no effing way.
Johnny Ramone? C'mon now.
Add Tom Morello, add Randy Rhoads, add Kirk Hammett, and the fact that EVH and SRV aren't on the list automatically invalidates it.
Mercury69
Monday, August 17th, 2009, 8:56 AM
Rhodes, Van Halen and SRV all deserve to be up there. Just because we got shortchanged in recorded material for Randy doesn't mean he wasn't incredi-awesome. Same goes for SRV, even if he was a tad derivative of Hendrix.
ajs510
Monday, August 17th, 2009, 9:02 AM
QUOTE (theresa113 @ Saturday, August 15th, 2009, 5:21 PM)

Where is Nancy Wilson of Heart? I mean, the intro to Crazy On You is pure genius.
Not to mention super GD difficult.
SBriand
Monday, August 17th, 2009, 9:30 AM
While I am not a huge fan of Slash, it does not surprise me to see him on the list. If he was actually listed as the #2 then I have an issue but he is a very underrated player and I think GnR and their actions take away from what he can do on a guitar.
SRV is an obvious choice to be in the top 10.
Joey? While he was a master at 3 chords I don't think top 10 material.
YM, yuck.
I am a huge Satriani fan and I would put him maybe 15-20.
Kirk Hammett was who inspired me to play guitar some 21 years ago and I still would not put him in top 10.
Tom Morello is a top 10 guitarist imo.
Jeff Beck as well.
Never was a big Van Halen fan but him not being in the top 10 is ridic.
This post would be better and more thought out if people would stop coming into my office...
Pot Odds RAC
Monday, August 17th, 2009, 9:56 AM
Big 70's rock fan here and grew up lusting for the Wilson sisters. But one decent acoustic guitar vamp 35 second intro doesn't qualify you for the Top 10 best of all time. For Example, compare that to the acoustic work on "Mood for a Day" or "Clap" by Steve Howe or Lindsay Buckingham's work on "Never Going Back Again". Then try and name 3 other signature tunes of hers (please don't try and sneak "Dog & Butterfly" into this discussion). I believe that Howard Leese was more responsible for most of the Electric guitar work on their biggest hits, including "Crazy on You". She was (is) a great rock guitarist, but nowhere near top ten of all time.
I can almost accept Chuck Berry on a top ten or twenty list because of the influence he had on all of rock & rolll as well as R&B. He really helped establish and define how R&R riffs were written and how the guitar was used in modern music. Add in the fact that he had a racial barrier to overcome.
Pot Odds RAC
Monday, August 17th, 2009, 10:26 AM
YM just can't even be a serious addition to a top ten, If you must have a "shredder" with classical runs, then yeah Satriani, Vai, Eric Johnson, or even Steve Morse would be better choices with my personal vote going to EJ.
Mercury69
Monday, August 17th, 2009, 10:56 AM
Steve Vai, anyone?
outsider13
Monday, August 17th, 2009, 11:08 AM
Crossroads is probably one of my all time favorite movies. The cutting heads scene was just awesome.
JubilantLankyLad
Monday, August 17th, 2009, 11:13 AM
QUOTE (outsider13 @ Monday, August 17th, 2009, 12:08 PM)

Crossroads is probably one of my all time favorite movies. The cutting heads scene was just awesome.
why no ry cooder on the list?
Pot Odds RAC
Monday, August 17th, 2009, 11:16 AM
QUOTE (JubilantLankyLad @ Monday, August 17th, 2009, 3:13 PM)

why no ry cooder on the list?
Not sure if this is a level, but he is talking about the scene from the movie where Steve Vai plays the Devil's Guitarist in a Guitar battle for Souls...
...but come to think of it I think there is a ton of Ry Cooder on the soundtrack
JubilantLankyLad
Monday, August 17th, 2009, 11:17 AM
QUOTE (Pot Odds RAC @ Monday, August 17th, 2009, 12:16 PM)

Not sure if this is a level, but he is talking about the scene from the Ralph Maccio movie where Steve Vai plays the Devil's Guitarist in a Guitar battle for Souls
ummm, ok.
ry cooder played all the "maccio" guitar parts and owns vai's soul. in real life, and in the movie.
Pot Odds RAC
Monday, August 17th, 2009, 11:20 AM
QUOTE (JubilantLankyLad @ Monday, August 17th, 2009, 3:17 PM)

ummm, ok.
ry cooder played all the "maccio" guitar parts and owns vai's soul. in real life, and in the movie.
Agreed. Forgot about Ry Cooder's involvement in the Movie
...but I think Arlen Roth played a lot of Maccio's guitar parts.
outsider13
Monday, August 17th, 2009, 11:27 AM
Ry Cooder is def awesome too.
Also fwiw, Steve Vai played Macchio's classical parts, Cooder played the blues......so Vai really owned his own soul at the end.
ajs510
Monday, August 17th, 2009, 11:29 AM
QUOTE (outsider13 @ Monday, August 17th, 2009, 3:08 PM)

Crossroads is probably one of my all time favorite movies. The cutting heads scene was just awesome.
Heh, that's funny, I was just watching that after reading through this topic, it's on Youtube. Amazing scene, I first saw that movie about 10 years ago.
Mercury69
Monday, August 17th, 2009, 11:33 AM
QUOTE (Pot Odds RAC @ Monday, August 17th, 2009, 3:20 PM)

Agreed. Forgot about Ry Cooder's involvement in the Movie
...but I think Arlen Roth played a lot of Maccio's guitar parts.
Arlen Roth was one of Danny Gatton's biggest supporters
Roth/Gatton/TequilaBlues Newburg
Pot Odds RAC
Monday, August 17th, 2009, 11:43 AM
QUOTE (Mercury69 @ Monday, August 17th, 2009, 3:33 PM)

Arlen Roth was one of Danny Gatton's biggest supporters
Roth/Gatton/TequilaCool clip. I covet that Copper Telecaster Gatton is playing, can't believe that the "Master of the Telecaster" isn't playing a Fender.
BigDMcGee
Monday, August 17th, 2009, 12:09 PM
I love that prince is on their list.... Prince's skill at guitar playing is often overlooked because of the poppy style of many of his songs, and his general weirdness.. but he really is one of the best guitar players alive..
JubilantLankyLad
Monday, August 17th, 2009, 12:16 PM
QUOTE (BigDMcGee @ Monday, August 17th, 2009, 1:09 PM)

I love that prince is on their list.... Prince's skill at guitar playing is often overlooked because of the poppy style of many of his songs, and his general weirdness.. but he really is one of the best guitar players alive..
anybody have a link to that concert where he's sharing the stage with a dozen other well known musicians and when it's time for his little spotlight-solo he goes off for like 5 minutes?
SBriand
Monday, August 17th, 2009, 12:19 PM
What about Django Reinhart?
Pot Odds RAC
Monday, August 17th, 2009, 12:21 PM
QUOTE (Pot Odds RAC @ Saturday, August 15th, 2009, 3:37 PM)

Yeah. The Rolling Stones list was terribad. I like Jack White, but putting him in the top ten...? And EVH @ 70 way below Joan Jett?!?!?!?
...but that Time list is just stoopid. No EVH and no SRV kills it.
Just went and reviewed the Rolling Stone Top 100 List. I guess Jack White was in the top 20, not top 10. EVH @ 70 and Joan Jett @ 87 not ahead of EVH, but still a strange list. The RS top 10 was:
Jimi
Duane Allman
BB King
Eric Clapton
Robert Johnson
Chuck Berry
SRV
Ry Cooder
Jimmy Page
Keef Richards
All in all not a horrible Top Ten if you consider "influence" on the art as part of the list of criteria. It is a little skewed towards prior to 1975 players, which they make up for with the 11-20 list.
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/593...ts_of_all_time/
keith crime
Monday, August 17th, 2009, 12:23 PM
QUOTE (SBriand @ Monday, August 17th, 2009, 3:19 PM)

What about Django Reinhart?
didn't play electric
keith crime
Monday, August 17th, 2009, 12:23 PM
QUOTE (JubilantLankyLad @ Monday, August 17th, 2009, 3:16 PM)

anybody have a link to that concert where he's sharing the stage with a dozen other well known musicians and when it's time for his little spotlight-solo he goes off for like 5 minutes?
you tube while my guitar gently weeps - hall of fame with tom petty et al
SBriand
Monday, August 17th, 2009, 12:24 PM
QUOTE (keith crime @ Monday, August 17th, 2009, 4:23 PM)

didn't play electric
yeah just saw electric in the title, still amazing guitarist.
Pot Odds RAC
Monday, August 17th, 2009, 12:32 PM
QUOTE (SBriand @ Monday, August 17th, 2009, 4:19 PM)

What about Django Reinhart?
Fair question. Django certainly influenced a ton of guitarists. But the Time list was "Electric Guitarists" and Django played an acoustic "Gypsy" guitar.
There are a lot of "Jazz" players like George Benson and Wes Montgomery who could be considered.
JubilantLankyLad
Monday, August 17th, 2009, 1:09 PM
QUOTE (keith crime @ Monday, August 17th, 2009, 1:23 PM)

you tube while my guitar gently weeps - hall of fame with tom petty et al
that's the one, thanks.
Mercury69
Monday, August 17th, 2009, 1:20 PM
Duane Allman was the fckn bomb...
Untilted
Monday, August 17th, 2009, 1:50 PM
David Gilmour is my favorite to listen to all time. He is not the best, talent wise but his style makes him my favorite. To each his own.
Tom Morello definetly belongs on any list. Not sure if someone mentioned he did not belong
aadams_22
Monday, August 17th, 2009, 1:51 PM
Prince, Yngwie Malmsteen, and Johnny Ramone have no business in the top 10. The rest I have no problem with.
However where the hell are Joe Satriani, Jeff Beck, Tom Morello, and Eric Johnson?
slink
Monday, August 17th, 2009, 2:46 PM
# 96 Angus Young
Should be in the top 10
El Guapo
Monday, August 17th, 2009, 2:50 PM
Carlos Santana?
hank213
Monday, August 17th, 2009, 2:53 PM
Pot Odds RAC
Monday, August 17th, 2009, 2:59 PM
QUOTE (aadams_22 @ Monday, August 17th, 2009, 5:51 PM)

Prince, Yngwie Malmsteen, and Johnny Ramone have no business in the top 10. The rest I have no problem with.
However where the hell are Joe Satriani, Jeff Beck, Tom Morello, and Eric Johnson?
http://video.search.yahoo.com/video/play?p...d=0001434348803There are times watching this video where I literally get chills.
I like his jacket too.
BigDMcGee
Monday, August 17th, 2009, 4:13 PM
QUOTE (Untilted @ Monday, August 17th, 2009, 4:50 PM)

David Gilmour is my favorite to listen to all time. He is not the best, talent wise but his style makes him my favorite. To each his own.
DG does a hilarious prince impression.
QUOTE (aadams_22 @ Monday, August 17th, 2009, 4:51 PM)

Prince, Yngwie Malmsteen, and Johnny Ramone have no business in the top 10. The rest I have no problem with.
However where the hell are Joe Satriani, Jeff Beck, Tom Morello, and Eric Johnson?
You have no idea at Prince's guitar ability if you think that. He could very well be the best living guitar player.
grocery_mony
Monday, August 17th, 2009, 5:23 PM
QUOTE (hank213 @ Monday, August 17th, 2009, 3:53 PM)

god damn it still pisses me off that some crazy **** shot him
SuperJon
Monday, August 17th, 2009, 5:46 PM
A potential top 10 imo would have to be John Mayer. For anyone who's never really heard him do anything other than his early pop stuff.
One of my favorite solos of his...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B462-3AhYYkstarts at around 6:34. It's from his Live in LA album which is full of some really excellent guitar playing and awesome muscianship overall from everyone else.
Another one...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOfCsoRlNioreally nice funky intro.
Pot Odds RAC
Tuesday, August 18th, 2009, 3:58 PM
QUOTE (SuperJon @ Monday, August 17th, 2009, 9:46 PM)

A potential top 10 imo would have to be John Mayer. For anyone who's never really heard him do anything other than his early pop stuff.
One of my favorite solos of his...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B462-3AhYYkstarts at around 6:34. It's from his Live in LA album which is full of some really excellent guitar playing and awesome muscianship overall from everyone else.
Another one...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOfCsoRlNioreally nice funky intro.
I so wanted to be a Mayer fan. Seriously. I literally wanted him to be my next favorite guitarist. And while that first solo you linked had some tasty parts, he just doesn't do it for me. Maybe if he could just figure out what he wants to be as a guitarist/performer long enough to really nail it. But he has been all over the map from pop to blues and a little R&B without really establishing something new and really groundbreaking in any of them.
BaseJester
Tuesday, August 18th, 2009, 4:09 PM
QUOTE (Mercury69 @ Monday, August 17th, 2009, 12:33 PM)

Kurt Cobain
Kurt Cobain would've been lucky to be in the top 10 at open mic night at the local blues bar.
aadams_22
Tuesday, August 18th, 2009, 4:12 PM
QUOTE (BigDMcGee @ Monday, August 17th, 2009, 7:13 PM)

You have no idea at Prince's guitar ability if you think that. He could very well be the best living guitar player.
I know how great of a guitarist he is...it's just that I can find 10 people better than he is.
SuperJon
Tuesday, August 18th, 2009, 6:03 PM
QUOTE (Pot Odds RAC @ Tuesday, August 18th, 2009, 7:58 PM)

I so wanted to be a Mayer fan. Seriously. I literally wanted him to be my next favorite guitarist. And while that first solo you linked had some tasty parts, he just doesn't do it for me. Maybe if he could just figure out what he wants to be as a guitarist/performer long enough to really nail it. But he has been all over the map from pop to blues and a little R&B without really establishing something new and really groundbreaking in any of them.
I used to be the same way, but when I heard the John Mayer Trio album and Live from LA, I became a fan.
I suggest "buying" both of those albums and giving them a listen.
Dice_3008
Wednesday, August 19th, 2009, 7:37 AM
QUOTE (BaseJester @ Tuesday, August 18th, 2009, 4:09 PM)

Kurt Cobain would've been lucky to be in the top 10 at open mic night at the local blues bar.
QFT. I can appreciate what he did for music, but when I think of Kurt Cobain great guitar player doesn't come to mind.
Dice_3008
Wednesday, August 19th, 2009, 7:48 AM
QUOTE (hank213 @ Monday, August 17th, 2009, 2:53 PM)

Great guitarist. I don't know if it's the genre of music he performed or what but he is always way to low on these lists.
As far as the main list is concerned not having SRV on the list is a travesty. Slash is really overated and Ramone shouldn't be in the top 50. I'm not real familiar with Malmsteem's music but Satriani would make a nice replacement.
Mercury69
Wednesday, August 19th, 2009, 8:28 AM
QUOTE (Dice_3008 @ Wednesday, August 19th, 2009, 11:37 AM)

QFT. I can appreciate what he did for music, but when I think of Kurt Cobain great guitar player doesn't come to mind.
Didn't say he was Top 10, just that he's one of my favs.
speedz99
Sunday, August 30th, 2009, 7:52 PM
QUOTE (JubilantLankyLad @ Monday, August 17th, 2009, 12:16 PM)

anybody have a link to that concert where he's sharing the stage with a dozen other well known musicians and when it's time for his little spotlight-solo he goes off for like 5 minutes?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifp_SVrlurYJesus...I had no idea he was that sick on guitar.
QUOTE (El Guapo @ Monday, August 17th, 2009, 2:50 PM)

Carlos Santana?
I can do a mean air guitar from his Abraxis and Filmore albums. More air bass, actually.
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