Syntonic
Friday, July 24th, 2009, 10:01 AM
QUOTE (droberts @ Friday, July 24th, 2009, 7:13 AM)

"Why do you feel that UTG+1 was weak? He raised from early position and fired twice into two opponents.
The turn raise is just confusing to me. I mean, you're repping a flush now, but I don't think he's going to going to fold AQ or KQ, especially at these limits. Ok, you did a weird raise on the turn and got TWO callers. All you have is second pair."
well obviously i posted this cause i said i needed help... if i knew what was goin on in the hand i wouldnt have posted and patted myself on the back for a good play... not trying to get defensive but im just posting to help improve my abilities and such cuz i want to learn and get better.
I wasn't attacking you at all, I was just asking why you went through that process of 'thinking the opponent was weak'. If you can provide a reasonable / likely story for your line of thinking, then you should be able to justify your actions in the hand. I'm not saying that you are wrong (although I doubt he is weak), but you shouldn't just rely on gut feelings - have reasons for
why you think things about your opponent. When your opponent makes odd plays that don't make any sense and you can't figure out what kind of hand he could have, chances are, he's bluffing.
Here are some things about the opponent that we know:
1. He raised from early position. This alone shows strength.
2. He bet on the flop into two opponents out of position. Ok fine, this could just be a continuation bet. It's hard to tell without any reads on the opponent. The bet size is also really small. Sometimes this means that he's very strong, and other times it's just a weak bet. I would lead more towards strength because he's OOP and betting. I think if you said "I felt like my opponent was weak because he bets were small", then you would have a better argument.
3. He bet AGAIN on the turn into two callers OOP.
I'm not sure the best way to play this hand.
My thinking is a little biased because how things turned out, he probably has like 10s or Js. You should have removed the outcome on the river. Anyways, I'm ok with raising on the flop. If he calls, you can make the decision if he's all with a pair like JJ or even just an 8, or if he has a Q. Either way, he'll check most turns and you'll be in position.