Dubey
Friday, July 24th, 2009, 7:57 AM
QUOTE (tskillz187 @ Thursday, July 23rd, 2009, 10:45 PM)

We don't know that he's a donk. He was saying it's a donk bet. I don't mind action killing cards our hand is a medium strength hand with showdown value, we want to get to showdown cheap.
If we raise and he folds then we just folded out a hand we were beating. If we raise and he calls with worse which I think is optimistic, it still puts in a weird spot, are we really trying to get 3 streets of value here? If we check back turn and he bets river are we just stationing? Get to showdown and note wtf he's limp/calling with oop and donkign half pot with on paired/flush draw board imo.
I don't think we can expect 3 streets of value here, which is why I think we need to extract value on the flop when the villain still likes his hand.
Honestly, I think we are ahead soooooooooooooooooooo often here; Your average player isn't donking into the preflop raiser when he flops trips. unless we know we have a very aggressive opponent who is going to fire 3 streets with worse, I think we need to raise. If we get called, I'm probably checking back turn and betting river if checked to me, or calling a bet if he bets.