Can I value bet thin on 6th?

7 Card Stud High-Low ($0.1/$0.2), Ante $0.02, Bring-In $0.03 (converter)

3rd Street - (1.5999999999999999 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx J ___folds
Seat 2: xx xx K ___folds
Seat 3: xx xx 8 ___calls ___calls
Seat 4: xx xx A ___calls ___calls
Seat 5: xx xx 6 ___folds
Hero: K 7 K ___completes
Seat 7: xx xx 6 ___brings-in ___calls
Seat 8: xx xx 8 ___folds

4th Street - (5.6000000000000005 SB)

Seat 3: xx xx 8 J ___calls
Seat 4: xx xx A J ___checks ___calls
Hero: K 7 K 7 ___bets
Seat 7: xx xx 6 4 ___folds

5th Street - (4.3 BB)

Seat 3: xx xx 8 J 3 ___calls
Seat 4: xx xx A J 3 ___checks ___calls
Hero: K 7 K 7 2 ___bets

6th Street - (7.3 BB)

Seat 3: xx xx 8 J 3 T ___checks
Seat 4: xx xx A J 3 A ___checks
Hero: K 7 K 7 2 Q ___checks

River - (7.3 BB)

Seat 3: xx xx 8 J 3 T xx ___checks
Seat 4: xx xx A J 3 A xx ___checks
Hero: K 7 K 7 2 Q T ___checks

Total pot: (7.3 BB - $1.46)

Same thing here, 6th and 7th seem pretty thin to me, but help!!!!!

7 Card Stud High-Low ($0.1/$0.2), Ante $0.02, Bring-In $0.03 (converter)

3rd Street - (1.5999999999999999 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx Q ___calls
Seat 2: xx xx K ___folds
Seat 3: xx xx 3 ___calls
Seat 4: xx xx 9 ___folds
Seat 5: xx xx 6 ___calls
Hero: 6 8 7 ___calls
Seat 7: xx xx 2 ___brings-in
Seat 8: xx xx 6 ___folds

4th Street - (3.0999999999999996 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx Q J ___checks ___calls
Seat 3: xx xx 3 Q ___checks ___calls
Seat 5: xx xx 6 J ___checks ___folds
Hero: 6 8 7 3 ___bets
Seat 7: xx xx 2 8 ___folds

5th Street - (3.05 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx Q J 3 ___checks
Seat 3: xx xx 3 Q J ___checks
Hero: 6 8 7 3 8 ___checks

6th Street - (3.05 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx Q J 3 Q ___checks
Seat 3: xx xx 3 Q J K ___checks
Hero: 6 8 7 3 8 7 ___checks

River - (3.05 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx Q J 3 Q xx ___checks
Seat 3: xx xx 3 Q J K xx ___checks
Hero: 6 8 7 3 8 7 3 ___checks

Total pot: (3.05 BB - $0.61)

I think these are too thin i would check them but i suck at stud 8

after thinking some more in #1 it seems that seat #3 only has a high draw, but it may be better than yours if he has aces and x and seat #4 only has a low draw so would either of them call a bet for half of the pot? I think you may or may not scoop both #1 and #2 but it is hard to tell so #1 you may get a vbet but #2 i just don't see you getting too many calls that lose to you for the scoop.

is there like a poker stove for stud? something you could put randoms with the cards gone that we know are dead? That could help.

You are the only one with two way action on 6th street on the 2nd hand, so I don't think a bet is horrible there.

Right, in hindsight I was thinking that as well

pm sent

TY as always to cappy

1st hand, I would not bet. if he's showing AJ3A, and he's been check calling down, what would you put him on? I'd put him on some kind of small pair. It's also possible for a low. Unless you think you can get the first player out so you can get it heads up, why bother?

2nd hand, I do v-bet. No one has shown any aggression here, even with the Q up pairing, chances are he limped with either two high or two lows (at .10/.20, don't be surprised) hoping to get lucky, so there's less chance the two pair came here. Further, you have a chance to scoop. The bet is nicer here.

TY

1st hand is too thin - check it down and be happy if it does.

2nd hand is a bet because you have the low draw plus 4 outs to the relative nuts since both opponents are sharing cards. It's a check on 7th UI though.

pretty well agree with this, first hand Ace has the lead for sure, I would check down he could beat your 2 pair for sure even have a possible straight draw.

2nd hand value bet, you have a good strong hand were no one has a possible hand showing. I would play it aggressively. My thoughts since I have placed and cashed in the last 4 of 5 Ft's in stud as of today in the last 2 weeks lol.

Is betting eights up against open queens a good idea even in stud hi?

Or are we talking about value betting when he pairs his hidden eight on 5th? (in which case, I agree)

the latter value betting when he pairs his hidden eight on 5th, why bet open queens when mostly likely you would be beat, I would check those down. Your just throwing money away.

Cappy and King James why are you guys not playing these tournaments they are super soft.

I plan on playing the one's you skip.. Why would I want to play for second place?

+1


*insert witty shark on shark violence reference

I hate live stud8. Well I actually love it, but remembering all the cards and action is impossible.

I was in a shit spot in a 4 way pot where I started

3c 5c 6c 2c on fourth against

8 4

J T

6 8

I was drawing to the world and bricked a smooth

Qd on 5th
3h on 6th
Qh on 7th

so the pot was ginormous, like almost 30BB, the obv low bet and two calls and I called with queens up and split against two lower 2 pairs...

Crazy game... I tanked for like a minute which is a long time for a stud8 decision...

Live Stud/8 would have to be like the most profitable thing ever, if you can find a game. People never fold in online, so I can only imagine the stations live. "I have just a pair of Kings on the river and he's bet every street showing 2456, he probably just has the low, **** it I call." Drool.

Although granted to play it properly would be very boring live I'm sure as starting hand selection is too important against mega-stations and I'm sure hands take forever and a day to deal out.

Yes indeed... I've played a fair amount of live 3/6 HORSE and they do 8 hands per game, so 40 hands to get through the cycle and it can take almost 2 hours...

But profitable it is

id bet 4th street in hand 2. no one is playing like they have a high made yet and we have the only low draw even if they do.

Hero did, did he not?

yeah, nvm. musta been late, really thought he didnt.

An interesting spot live:


Obv can't remember all dead cards, and some suits are prob wrong (I want a photographic memory for xmas)

Stud8- 6 handed .5/1 (.1ante/.25bring-in)

Villain 1: (X X) Ac Ad

Villain 2: (X X) Qd Qh

Hero: (2h 3c) 4d 8c


3rd: Hero brings-in, 1 fold, Villain 1 completes, Villain 2 calls, couple folds, Hero calls (4.1sb)

4th: Villain 1 bets, Villain 2 raises, Hero...

It should be noted that Villain 1 tried to double-bet, but it's stud8. He also had a dollar chip in his hand as he was going to 3bet... So I'm looking at a capped 4th street

I'm assuming that I'm against something like 54 AA and TQ QQ or JJ QQ (I don't think villain two would raise with just JT QQ) Villain 1 could certainly have 4A AA...

Any and all thoughts

I really can't see anyone, good or bad at the game, b/3b the open AA here with two babies underneath - I think he has to have trips. A non-expert at S/8 won't b/3b because they are way behind Villain 2's repped hand, and have to catch 2 for any low, they will almost certainly peel and hope to improve in one direction or the other on 5th.

An expert player won't b/3b (w)(w)AA either, because he will want to keep you in the hand with an 8 draw. Even though he has two to make any low, it's almost certain that it would end up being better than your 8 low. Since he's drawing at a two outer to scoop, he's got no reason to drive you out.

Therefore I put V1 on trip aces and nothing else, really. I think you are certainly good to peel one here. if it does get capped on 4th, thats not the end of the world because even if you brick 5th V2 would have to be either certifiably insane (or have quads) to get in another raising war on 5th.

And also, V2 is never raising anything besides trip Q there. You can safely throw out any ideas of JJQQ or TJQQ.

TYTY, I stuck around for a capped 4th, 2 bets on 5th and made my low on 6th and took 1/2 the pot as neither of them improved and it was AAA vs QQQ

2 bets on 5th? Did QQ raise AGAIN? or did the AA get in a c/r?

Obv can't remember all dead cards, and some suits are prob wrong (I want a photographic memory for xmas)

Stud8- 6 handed .5/1 (.1ante/.25bring-in)

Villain 1: (X X) Ac Ad 9x Tx (X)

Villain 2: (X X) Qd Qh 4x Jx (x)

Hero: (2h 3c) 4d 8c 2x 7x (Kx)


3rd: Hero brings-in, 1 fold, Villain 1 completes, Villain 2 calls, couple folds, Hero calls (4.1sb)

4th: Villain 1 bets, Villain 2 raises, Hero calls, Villain 1 raises, Villain 2 caps, Hero calls, Villain 1 calls (16.1sb)

5th: Villain 1 checks, Villain 2 bets, Hero calls, Villain 1 raises, Villain 2 calls, Hero calls (14bb)

6th: Vilain 1 bets, Villain 2 calls, Hero raises, Villain 1 calls, Villain 2 calls (20bb)

7th: Villain 1 checks, Villain 2 checks, Hero bets, Villain 1 calls, Villain 2 calls (23bb)

Sheesh, I dunno if I'm ballsy enough to go for the c/r on 5th as Villain 1. With you showing three to a low I think as Villain 1 with open AA I'd just lead, the QQ calls and then I'd expect/hope the low to pump it up and then I could give the gas pipe to Villain 2 in a raising sandwich, as it's very obvious that he has QQQ.

BTW, mark Villain 2 down as a complete moron and stalk him anytime he plays S/8. He shouldn't be calling on 3rd after the Ace completes, let alone raising 4th nor betting 5th.

Yes, very true about villain 2

And luckily, he is a regular at my home game. .10/.25 NL & PL games and .50/1 limit games... lots of fun. Pretty decent NL players, but their stud/8/razz abilities are terrible. <3 that game...

TY your responses...

omfg how the hell do you convince people at your home game to play anything else besides NLHE? I wanna try to get them to play stud8 cuz I think i'd rock them to death.

Yes, it's fantastic!

The game is at my house and I tell everyone that it's dealers choice. .1/.25 NL and PL and .5/1 limit games... I've got them into playing PLO8 Stud8 Razz and NL27 single draw... and as bad as they are at NLHE, they are way worse at mixed games...

It ends up being about 70% NLHE and 30% other games, which is nice.

Brag:

Scopped a 30BB pot in stud8 Tuesday night with rolled-up 5s... just to get an idea of how lol-bad people are at stud8, a friend capped 3rd with split 9s...

I beat 9s up, aces up and a busted low-draw... scoooooooooop

Interesting article from 2+2 mag...

http://www.twoplustwo.com/magazine/issue58...airs-Stud-8.php

HU 7game: Stud8 $.50/$1 with .1 ante

Hero: (6 7 ) 5 9 3 Q

Laggy Villain: ( Xx Xx ) A T 5 K

3rd: Hero brings-in, Villain completes, Hero calls (2.4sb)

4th: Villain bets, Hero calls (3.4sb)

5th: Villain bets, Hero call (3.7BB)

6th: Villain bets, Hero????

Villain is laggy in that he always bets when he has the lead. I've made some thin call downs, but I doubt he is adjusting. Always completes when I bring-in so I think his hole-card range is pretty much ATC

Meh, I've been putting down some thoughts and I guess it's a pretty zzzzz standard call...

str draw
low draw
flush draw
and it hu
i'm raising 6th

and ask questions other places u should be happy i'm real bored while playing now and seen this

Yeah, no one reads this so I kind of just post whatever here... I have been so bad at retrieving HHs from 7game b/c I've gotten accustomed to having tracker...

I am gonna put in some 7game/HORSE volume this week!!