Villain: 13/10/4 over a small sample. Seemed to be a thinking player been raising my blind when folded to him.

Hero: Running 26/20. I've been very active raising IP, making 3bets.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop

Hero (BB) ($17.55)
UTG ($10.55)
MP ($2.90)
CO ($9.20)
Button ($10.70)
SB ($20.65)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q, Q
4 folds, SB bets $0.30, Hero raises to $1.10, SB raises to $4.90, [color=#CC3333]Hero???

"Villain: 13/10/4"
This is an ugly spot.
There is no "right" play here.
Maybe just fold and play more hands.

You're really deep, which makes this interesting.

Based on the 13/10 I lean toward a fold

You've been active and it's BVB, so maybe he's just playing back at you

I just don't know, in BVB I'd for sure stack off for 100bb but 175bb deep I'm just not sure...

Easy fold imo. Someone running 13/10/4 has earned the right to bluff us.

just too deep to be stacked off to a thinking player. I mean the only way the math is close is AK, AQ, and JJ are in the range and I just don't think so. I may consider even folding KK this is horrible for Q's

wow that's rly sick cuz of how deep you are.

It's so tough because you don't know if villain thinks YOU'RE a thinking player, may consider you're playing back at him light for raising your bb so often. His 4-bet is so large, I almost feel like he's got a smaller to mid pair or AQ/AK more than KK/AA, and he's trying to protect against Ax and Kx.

I think shoving and folding are both viable options... I'd probably fold in this situation.

Villain's stats may be meaningless, depending on sample size. Also, we are bvb.

I think this deep, calling preflop and shoving over villain's flop bet on a non A or K board is fine.

Its not THAT deep, only 170bb's...

Is that cause he's going to call with AK?

Stats are a little sick, but villain's range opens up enough against your defending range (since he's been raising your blind frequently) to make shoving profitable imo.

Exactly. Calling and shoving on a non A or K board is the worst of the three options imo

I think by shoving we're flipping a coin with a slight edge:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 47.244% 45.94% 01.30% 221837028 6288336.00 { JJ+, AJs+, AQo+ }
Hand 1: 52.756% 51.45% 01.30% 248456028 6288336.00 { QQ }

As we add more pairs (TT/99/88), the edge obviously gets larger. By the time 88 enters the range, we have a 60% edge and really shouldn't be folding.

I dunno, I think it's a little unrealistic to say he'll stack off with AJs and AQo every time or even often. I don't doubt that he'll 4 bet them a good % of the time, but the difference between that and calling a shove with them is huge, and that's where we get the edge in this range from. Sure, we'll win a $5 pot when he folds those hands, but it's not the same as the equity we gain when he calls it off with them.

On the flip side, if we think he'll also 4-bet/fold TT, 99, and 88 we *might* just pick up enough equity to break even.

Also, just because he's been stealing doesn't mean his 4-bet is automagically adjusted to us "defending." It certainly gives us reason to 3bet with more speculative hands, but I don't think it affects his 4bet-call range at all.

Call and get it in on non ace/king high boards.