So now that it has started I can talk about it. I have know for a while the Cowboy was going to get a shot at coming back.

He is from my town and had agreed to rent a restaurant from my family to run a catering business. Then he was just gone. He owns a liquor store here and he was never there. He would no return calls about the restaurant. We went to his house to tell him we were not going to lease him the building unless he came to sign the papers. Of course he was not home. His wife was really evasive until we said we would cancel the agreement. Then she told us she had just put him on a plane to California to be on Big Brother again.

We are not sure if he is finished with the show yet because he is still not back in town yet.

I really got into this show last season. I will be watching.

Hopefully they have good characters like last season.

I got all excited watching this again, I love this show.

I think Jesse is coming in with a gigantic ego and bullseye on his head. Yet, I'm rooting for him, I've always liked his attitude.

Another summer timewaster.

Yay!

I loved how the gay guy was outing people when they were all introducing each other.

"Honey after this lets talk about your real age." (in reference to the 24 year old karate girl who was telling everyone she is 18).

"Ok now lets talk about your breasts" (in reference to the 21 year old brown hair bikini model with ridiculously large fake boobs that don't look hot at all).

I'm not sure if I like the theme of the cliques this year. We'll see how things pan out though.

so far I think the cliques is a terrible idea. Basically creates alliances from the start with people out of your control. Maybe the brains will come up with a strategy but I don't know how to further yourself in the game it's like the pieces have already been layed out.

Anyone down with a random draft? We can set it up this week and have it for next week. I'm not sure the schedule of the show yet but even if someones out we can just do 12 instead of 13 and it wont matter since its random anyways.

I'm down, if we get enough people.

I don't think there are 12 people on this forum that watch this show though.

We can let people have up to 2 slots if necessary, or just have 6 of us where we all get 2 people.

What kind of money are we talking?

I'd be in, I just watched this show for the first time last season, and loved it.

Man, they are all obnoxious...every single one of them. So far I can't find myself rooting for any of them, except maybe Jesse.

And the horse-face on the girl with boobs, man oh man. I said to my wife, "She must have gotten implants to take the focus off her face."

The clique thing won't last very long since you can't have cliques with only 2 people in them. My guess is they will abolish it once 5 or 6 people have left.

I'd like to do $50 a spot. There's 13 people on now but evictions are Tuesday I think? So we'll do 12 spots total.

I'm taking one now and will take more if needed.

Who else?

Lock up a spot for me!

Why did they bring Jesse back? That kid is super fucking annoying.

Do you plan on watching After Dark again this year? I really enjoyed your summaries from last season.

I watched part of it last night. This group seems kind of boring right now, everyone is being too nice.

Those 4 HOH candidates from past seasons disappointed me altogether. Notwithstanding the fact that they each needed to be pigeonholed into one of the stupid cliques, I would have liked to have seen at least one of Dr. Will, Janelle, Evil Dick or Howie.

I really hate the idea of the cliques. I hate that so much strategy was removed from the game putting them in alliances from the get go. Big brother's best appeal was watching people try to persuade others in building alliances and when 1 person gets outed the whole house explodes.

I'm rooting for the Athletic Girl. I think she's cool and has some brain power.

But the fun is going to be in who betrays their cliques. It should actually get very interesting I think.

This is the first season I've decided to watch this show.

Didn't see Jessie last season, but I already find him super annoying. I obv enjoy staring at Laura's rack, but her face/personality really aren't all that likable. I'm actually rooting for the redhead brainy chick Michelle right now. I like Jeff from Chicago too, but he seems to have alienated too many people already, including his own clique.

I'm also watching some of the After Dark coverage. Question (since this is the first season I've watched) - If I watch After Dark, will I always know ahead of time who gets nominated for eviction and who wins POV? After Dark mentioned who was up for eviction Thursday and it didn't air until last night. Same with POV, they talked about who won Friday, and it doesn't air till Tuesday.

Other than that, the After Dark hasn't been all that exciting. Russell and Jessie only seem to talk about working out/muscles, and the entire cast seems to suck at billiards.

After dark doesn't usually tell you whats happened, but you can pick some of it up from the house conversations. And After dark usually hits its stride after about 3 weeks in, when people have gotten to know each other and the backstabbing really starts once the game is taking shape.

Agreed that the cliques wont last long and wont really matter halfway through the season.

I'm gonna change buyin to $20 so that money really isnt a problem for anyone. We have 10 spots left.

Missed After Dark last night but I'm sure the gf wont let that hapeen again.

I'm going to pass Looshle. I'll be in for next season of Survivor though.

Jesse seems to have not learned much. I think he sounded stupid when he was asking people to be his eyes and ears. I predict that his luck is going to change once he isn't Hoh anymore. If any one of the off-beats or popular groups win hoh I think he will be the first up for elimination. I also think that the brains group will switch over to get rid of the athletic group if they have to. So I think that the brains/athletes alliance isn't going to last.

If I had to pick one person right now, it would be the white guy on the athletic team who isn't Jesse or the ultimate fighter guy. My girl pick would be the scientist on the brains team.

The early alliances rarely do. It's a question of who flips on who first.

I don't think he's as stupid as he sounds and acts. His point was simply that since everyone is going to kiss his ass as HoH (like horse face boob girl setting up the Jesse is hot comment), he's not going to be able to get an accurate read on people. So he's asking his clique-mates to get the intel he needs to help them (him) make a decision. He's also smart enough to realize that he and UFC guy are going to be targets right off the bat because of their physical threateningness.

I liked athletic girl until she opened her mouth during the wedgie competition and outed UFC guy. Not smart to reveal to your opponents that your teammate is struggling during a physical competition.

I'm rooting for the Nerd 'cause I've always liked nerds. I think I'll nickname him Skolnik.

And the drama begins!

tecnotronics fail.

I think putting up one of the nerds was a horrible decision. By doing this they lose 2 votes (HOH and the nominated person) and only have 5 against the remaining 5 non-nominated guests. Now with the one Athlete on the outs they only have 4 guaranteed votes. Would have been much easier to put up 2 populars or 2 outcasts and guarantee one from that clique go home. By putting Bradon up I can't see them keeping 'I Can't Help That I Have Big Boobs' vote. The rest only need to get Lydia's vote and they're golden. Annoying nerd goes home and only 2 of the Athletes compete for HOH. I'm surprised the nerds went along with this in the first place.

Gamerboy effed up.

UFCs blow up was completely retarded and probably backfired on him.

Funny stuff on after dark last night. They got drunk and played stupid games, some of it was funny. Super nerd made an ass of himself several times. He also keeps running around telling all the girls his big secret which is that he has won debates so he can use peoples words against them... he is gonna end up on the block soon.

Blond girl is so dumb its beyond belief. I bet she can't tie her own shoes.

100% agree, their strategy definitely wasn't their best option. They could've still created an alliance with the nerds without having to put one up as a pawn, it really made no sense this early as they lost a vote from it.



Yeah, gamer guy is an idiot and has no game. I can't stand blond girl the most, it's a shame Jesse didn't just put her up.

Also, I don't mind Lydia but she's got to stop crying about her appearance.... No one forced her to get tattoos.

Did Horseface seriously state that she can't help that fact that she has a big rack? I thought I heard her say that but decided I must have been imagining it.

MMA guy seemed like an okay guy to me until the random freakout. I am not sensing that this bunch is going to end up being very impressive startegically. I mean, the whole idea of putting up a pawn during the very first eviction strikes me as being the result of overthinking. Just pick a freaking target and organize the votes you need to achieve eviction during the first week.

So far DJ/elementary school teacher is my favorite player.

Also, technotronics ftl.

QFT. When mma guy confronted him about leaking their plan for the week, his reaction was absolutely hilarious to me. He was just so painfully nervous and incapable of lying in a convincing fashion. That bodes poorly for him. Also, he prefaces virtually every statement in his confessional interviews with "I mean, I am a pretty smart guy, but . . ." This makes me want to punch him in his disproportionately fat stomach.

Yep. Gamer boy is going to talk himself out of the game real soon it seems. He never shuts up and he only talks game and he has "aligned" himself with pretty much the whole house and everyone is noticing.

QFT

I saw the part about her not being able to tell time unless the clock is digital. I don't know if she's overplaying being this dumb to not come off as any kind of threat, but it's pretty ridiculous.

She certainly did. I was like, "Um, you could've helped it BY NOT BUYING THEM!"

I have seriously never disliked a girl with a huge rack as much as Laura.

The blond never stops touching herself on after dark either, she is always playing with her tits. She had half the house feeling them up last night.

This had me lol when I saw him do it on the show.

If someone on that show told me they are good at debating, I would want them out instantly. Why would you want to align with a good debator who could possibly out-debate you in the final 2?

this is exactly what i was thinking, also how can he put 100 % faith in braden to not tell everyone that ronnie was the one who told him. if braden lets it out, ronnies gone and its completely out of his control.

What time/channel is After Dark on?

Showtime 2 airs from 11-2 cst.

Yeah, she (Jordan) is still super self-conscious about them. I think she said she just got the implants like a few weeks before the show started.

Ahh, I only get showtime, not showtime 2

They look like they are trying to hide under her armpits.

It was ridiculous, and he talked about it before-hand like it was some brilliant strategy on his part. I'm going to rile him up and get him to hang himself. UFC guy just came across as a complete *******.

Can someone explain to me what he was thinking by revealing his alliance's strategy to the opposing cliques? Or is he trying to play the game so hard so early that he's going to form an alliance on day 1 and then try to take them down on day 2? So much for my nerd pick.

That was great. "What?...no...me?...why, did you hear something?...no way...never...oh no, I just peed my pants..."

This show would be extremely frustrating to be on.

At first glance it looks like people are strategizing way too hard, especially since things change from week to week with who is in control. UFC guy and nerd seem to be putting huge targets on their backs.

On the other hand Braden gets put on the block for not strategizing enough.

Or you could go with only strategizing a little bit, by being in an alliance, but letting the loudmouths do all the work (kind of like the weird looking black chick and scientist girl are doing). Wouldn't that be seen as riding coattails though?

Very confusing game.

What the hell is going on in Nerd's head? It's like he's making moves for the sake of making moves without any strategy behind it. He just wants to develop a reputation as a big schemer.

And what's with all the emotional confrontations? Don't people realize after 10 seasons of this show that blowing up at someone is a sure-fire way to make yourself a target, especially when you're already on the block?

I have to say, the scene with tattoo chick and gay guy yelling at Jeff for not defending them and then telling him he's not allowed to be friends with Braden was hilarous. This isn't even high school, it's grade school.

After watching Thursday's show and some of the After Dark, I really dislike Ronnie but find his gameplay intriguing at the same time.

He has been playing both sides and appears to be sticking with Jessie and the athletes for now. But no one in the house seems to dislike him yet.

Jeff, Jordan, Laura, Michelle, and Casey have all pretty much figured out Ronnie's the one who switched the vote and got Braden out, but they're still being pretty nice to him. Maybe this will change in a week or 2.

Problem for them is that the situation worked out absolutely perfect for Ronnie. He turns on that group of 5 and then immediately becomes HOH so there can't be any backlash towards him this week.

Be interesting to see how he proceeds. I don't see him just trying to ride the Jessie/Natalie/Chima alliance because they'll eventually dump him. I think he'll just keep talking to everyone and he'll either stay a step ahead of everyone for awhile or it'll come back and bite him in the ass if nobody trusts him anymore.

The next few weeks could be pretty predictable and boring though unless one of those in the minority alliance can win HOH and put up a couple of the "untouchables".

I still think he's playing way too hard too early and it will bite him in the arse.