At least not in one filled completely with atheists.

Oh nice, glad to hear you have come to your senses. Welcome aboard.

Is this a joke account? It must be.

Didn't recognize it until now, but the inconsistency in the retardation of your grammar and syntax is suspicious.

Why would you occasionally not use the space bar... how could you "accidentally" hit caps, type two letters at the end of a word, fix it before typing the next word, but not fix the two cap letters at the end of the last?

All too purposeful.

One of his other accounts is John Waters, but the grammar issues are the same for that one, so maybe he has two joke accounts.

And lets not forget "Plato".

Good lord how many joke accounts does the fellow have?

Stop feeling sorry for yourself. It'll do you no good... just snap out of it.


For ****'s sake.

you got a point. Yesterday was a real f of a day. I think I must of cry a good size lake full. At least for 6-7 hours worth. Between swallowing a bitter pill of reality and some half truths. I think simple PM's would have be more tactful than the way it came out to be honest. I don't want that attention like that ever again, never did in the 1st place that's where donk4life has it wrong. Your point was very well made, but I don't tell all my secrets of my life so there. Enough pity party


okay so who is leveling me ? Plato, John Waters, Plus one = who SA21 or JJJ or spademan

I know SA21 is a mastermind of many accounts here

I am unsure why my name is mixed up in all of this. Possibly because I am new. I also do not know why Mr. T feels as though I am "leveling" anything at him or her. I am here to discuss the merits of Deism.

none of those accounts are mine.

she is questioning it because of the previous other posts above thats why?



I don't know why SA21 but I do believe you this time, call it women's intuition

just know someone is

SYntaxx is overated anyWay, thanx god {no pun inteded} your arent mine english lit prof>

Good call on this.



lol. I love it.

brvheart are you guilty of something lol?

Funny how many murderers on death row found religion. When it looks like they are about to find out.... ya know... maybe I'll give religion a chance, just in case.

Rose...if I gave you a rock that thwarted off bears (Simpson episode rip off) and one day you didn't get attacked by a bear so you attributed this to the rock in your pocket...you would have faith. Faith that the rock protected you from bears. The non-believers would say that it is false faith because the rock had no effect on bears attacking you.... nothing more than a coincidence. But if it made you feel good.... so be it. If turning to religion makes you feel good in bad times... so be it. Enjoy life...enjoy each day. If you don't find a belief that fits you... just be happy.
No one can convince you to believe.... just be happy.

If you do find religion, don't expect others to believe the way you do. (I'm seriously against imposing my beliefs on others but I don't mind sharing if they ask...and yes I know this goes against what the Apostle Paul taught)

Bring it on, haters !

Yes, the intellectual elite, murderers on death row. They should be consulted on all matters of great importance, imo.

If people believe something when it is in their interest to do so this does quite the opposite of giving credibility to that belief.

yeah find a belief that fits you and believe whatever makes you happy. i think the ghost of jesus said that in 3rd thessalonians or something.

"Belief"....I don't think this word means what you think it does.

Wow.... wouldn't pick you of all people to assume religious belief immediately referred to Christianity.

ok, what does it mean?



Ah, I thought this might happen. I could tell you were on the verge. During your absence you have converted to Sikhism, am I right? Sat Sri Akaal, my friend.

i was referring to the fact that you're supposedly a christian, and saying things that are blatantly contradicted by the bible.
sorry if you recently converted to something else : )

Nope...I just purposely avoided saying anything about Christianity in a discussion about religion, therefore avoiding the whole "All you Christians think about is Christ. There are other religions, ya know." usual banter.
You read too much into the post. I understand that there are religious beliefs that differ from mine.

"If people believe something when it is in their interest to do so this does quite the opposite of giving credibility to that belief."
Belief is the psychological state in which an individual holds a proposition or premise to be true. The amount of "belief" has no variance on the validity of what is believed. Ergo..the statement you made about someone believing when faced with death invalidates what they believe in is in fact not true. The fact that they "believe" in whatever they believe does not lose credibility because of why they are believing.

Sikhism...Gotta go google that. Must have skipped school in World Religion when they went over that one.

not at all. you're selectively ignoring the bible and changing the definition of christianity to fit your own personal sensibilities (happiness is more important than belief).
i'm not complaining about that, just pointing it out.

You seem to be arguing that whether or not someone beleives a certain proposition has no bearing on it's truth. That was actually my point, since your original post seemed to imply that murders turning to god had something to do with religion being right.

Now, the reasons people beleive does have a lot to do with credibility. Consider Larry, who beleives that John did not kill his father, for one of the following reasons:

1. John said so at his murder trial.
2. He saw Frank do it.
3. He stands to inheret a fortune if John did it.

I think whether he believes for reason 1,2, or 3 has quite a bit of influence on his credibility don't you?

are you guys going to seriously debate this idiot? brvhrt is one thing. balloon guy okay. but this douchebag?

not for his sake specifically. there are a lot of people that think the way he does about christianity so can't be any harm in pointing out obvious logical flaws.

You are correct. i selectively ignored the Bible when participating in a discussion about religious beliefs. However...I never changed "the definition of Christianity" to fit my own personal anything. Can you point to somewhere where it appears I did this? Seriously lost me on that one.


Not at all. I BELIEVE OJ killed Nicole and Ron. However...my belief has nothing to do with whether he did or not.
I also never said that murderers turning religious in the face of death has anything to do with religion being "right". I merely pointed out that many times they do find religion. (Once again...I didn't say Christianity nor did I define Christianity)

i already did. to summarize, you implied that what specifically a person believes doesn't matter - as long it makes them feel good or happy, enjoy each day etc.

you directly compared religious faith to the belief that a rock protects someone from bear attacks, and implied that what feels good to believe in should be a higher
priority than whether a belief is objectively true or not.

those are not statements a sincere christian can logically make.

I still can't find the word "Christianity" in anything I said so I'm not sure where I redefined Christianity.

you're redefining christianity if you believe what you wrote and call yourself a christian.

I am not saying I don't believe, sometimes I just question my own self. Deep down inside there always been some faith I just choose the times when to use it. It may be a bit hypocritical but I am not perfect and I don't pretend to be either. When my friends, family, or people I care about or things in the world are crazy and I wish things would go better sometimes I speak to whoever and say my peace. It may not help but it may not hurt either. As for me well, sure I hope and pray he will again help me but all I can do is ask, and keep on trying and not give up. Each one of us have our own thoughts and feelings some may believe some may not. I am not here to change the world, but if I can help someone with kind words or listen to them as they speak then I know I have done something positive in my life.

I agree, it's pretty hopeless.

Wow...you gave up easily. This place isn't as fun as it used to be. You disappoint me.

why so serious?

LOL.... well played, sir

why thank you. you do know that? I built this city! onnnnnn rock and rolllllll.

Well... Someone here always playing corporation games
Who cares they're always changing corporation names
We just want to dance here someone stole the stage
They call us irresponsible write us off the page

Who counts the money underneath the bar
Who writes the wrecking ball in two wild guitars
Don't tell us you need us, 'cause we're just simple fools
Looking for America, coming through your schools


They can't stop us......we commin back!

Well this kind of thing is pretty frustrating to read:



When I explicitly said in the very post you are replying to:



You can't really think that I am in the position of arguing that something is true simply because someone believes it to be. So I don't really know what you're up to, but then again I never really do.

OK...you are correct. I misinterpreted your post :
"If people believe something when it is in their interest to do so this does quite the opposite of giving credibility to that belief."

I interpreted that to mean that if people believed in something when it is NOT in their best interest, their belief could lend credibility to that belief.

I apologize.

a song that you know that I actually like , now that is amazing, thank you above.

well once again I am here doing my thing, thinking and talking to you know who above. He listened to my prayers about a certain friend and now I am hoping he will again listen to my prayers when I go back under the dreaded knife again on Friday. I am glad that he heard me when I did pray for my friend but please hear me now. I don't ask for too much in life and I know I am a nuisance to say the least but I still have lots to offer in this world.

That's weird that he answers your prayers but is woefully silent and inept when it comes to a policeman's plea to walk again after being shot in the line of duty.

Also, he hates amputee's.

Weird.

duh god only works miracles that can have alternate non-miraculous explanations because he wants people to believe in him by faith

praying for you Rose.

thx Sportsmack

Spademan I guess having some faith and believing in miracles do happen

BG,

If you're reading this, please know that I am truly filled with a profound sense of regret for comparing you to this guy in another thread and that I honestly hope that you can find it in your heart to forgive me.

not a crisis but a little kind gesture, lord please get me through this tournament to the Ft tonight for me and my backers thanks. and thank you for the great news and the outcomes from the surgery too.

if there is a god, he sure as shit better be ashamed of himself for creating you.