no surprise coming from a heartless wonder like you Austin


as for me, I am praying to get through the next round of radiation treatments next week.
and for Austin to find some compassion and someone to love him so that he won't be a miserable son of a bitch the rest of his life.

Rose, you are my hero. In the face of adversity and pain you remain positive and strong. I admire many such aspects of your character. I would like to dedicate this verse to you:

If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:

If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;
If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: 'Hold on!'

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
' Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch,
if neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son!

Obviously ignore the part at the end about being a man, but other than that I think this pome sums up your outlook on life and your good attitude and spirit.

Best of luck with your treatment Rose, I'm rooting for you as always

LG

did you just poem to a imaginary person???

Just you just verb poem?

i'm glad I opened this thread to read this. this is hilarious. it's funny cause it's true.

no it isnt. not in the slightest.

its quite ridiculous, to be honest.

why do you run from love?

THIS IS WHY---> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUjIA3Rt7gk

what's happen hot stuff?

because he is dizzy and under attack by girls with too much make up who are wearing garbage bags?

thx Lady Grey

and Avs who imagery?









why Austin? good question?

you think I haven't been hurt. I have, tons of times, and very deeply. It doesn't mean I am going to give up on life or stop experiencing it. Your young and I am double your age so think of the times I have been disappointed or hurt and you don't see me giving up living, caring, or loving. Life is too short to hate my friend when you could go out there and have fun and enjoy it. I am having the best time of my life now with whatever I have left and that is what counts. Make your life count Austin please. Get out there take chances, yes sometimes they cause pain but sometimes there is love behind it. That love you may find may be the best thing that will ever happen to you but if you don't go out and try it will never happen. Stop feeling ****ing sorry for yourself or so afraid of being hurt again. Can't find any type of love hiding out.

Or in other words...

What's it all about, Austin? Is it just for the moment we live? What's it all about when you sort it out, Austin? Are we meant to take more than we give? Or are we meant to be kind? And if only fools are kind, Austin, then I guess it is wise to be cruel. And if life belongs only to the strong, Austin, what will you lend on an old golden rule? As sure as I believe there's a heaven above, Austin. I know there's something much more, something even non-believers can believe in. I believe in love, Austin. Without true love we just exist, Austin. Until you find the love you've missed you're nothing, Austin. When you walk let your heart lead the way and you'll find love any day, Austin.

so true LG


and to avsfan <3 and lmao

Oh please lord, if anything please hear me now, take me and save my friends Christian and Bill, you already had put hard challenges ahead that I am not sure why or how I can fight any more, but please if anything, don't take there lives, take me instead and save them. They are good people and I lived a good life, so please save them.

do you have a problem with that slink?

like really, if they stopped my radiation, and things are not going well and are at a stand still for me, then I rather the lord take me instead of them. They are younger and still have a lot to offer in life. So I am one who knows were things are at in my life, I rather save theres if there is that chance.

everyone knows prayers don't come true if you say them out loud

I'm sure that if there is a God (there isn't), he doesn't have quotas to fill... so, it wouldn't be a case of 'taking you' over anyone else. Because that would be quite horrible now, wouldn't it? It would indicate that God was an evil, narcissistic type being, just waiting to take people off the face of the earth for his own pleasure.


Personally, I wish you and chrozzo nothing but the best. I honestly hope you both come through any problems you have and wish you the best of luck... but, in the meantime, stop wishing that God takes you instead. Relax, Rose.

No, no problem. It's just a little odd that you'd post a prayer asking God to take you instead of others in at least three places (like one wasn't good enough). A bit dramatic, but hey it's the internet.

P.S. I don't think God works that way, but admittedly I am no expert.

It might be wrong to question God in your religion, but it can't be wrong to question those who told you there was such a God who doesn't stand you questioning his existence. In other words, religion is a fraud.

I can't blame everybody for choosing a re-comforting lie over a cold truth. I, on the other hand, chose the Red Pill.

Maybe God only reads Off Topic or maybe he's a General Poker type of deity. We just don't know.

Probably not a Religion forum fan though.

So I need some help. Is this the topic I post my prayers in? I tried doing it at my bed before laying down Saturday night but nothing happened. Then I stopped at church yesterday morning and still my prayer has not been answered. So should I do it here?

God knows if someone is testing him. Also, he probably already answered your prayer.... with a 'no'.


Serious part of my post:

If you really need prayer for something (I'm assuming your post was sarcastic), let me know, so I can pray for you as well.

No I don't need anything that is worthy of actual prayer but thanks though for the offer.

My issue is that her posts are retarded. Actually self-serving, attention whoring selfishness would be a better description. I have no issue with feeling bad about ones situation or about anothers, but to go around a poker website posting prayers to god to kill you and save another is just plain disrespectful, rude, and not deserving of any sympathy from me at least. Of cousre I spent 9 hours dealing with a sewage back up yesterday so my mood is tense.

It's the athletes that get me. If you pray to win are you really expecting God to will losing upon the opponent? Is God rooting for
you to be #1 (finger waving in the air) and the other team to lose? I find it rather pretentious that they would believe that
he actually cared who won a sporting event.

I have no problem with prayer and believe alot of people should take a few moments each day to do a little self-reflection
and ponder life a little.

oh lord, won't you buy me, a new septic tank. my shit's all backed up, and it smells f'ing rank

Based on the few books written by Christian athletes I've read and the interviews I've seen, they are not praying to win, they are usually trying to redirect any accomplishments they achieve towards God as a humble acknowledgment that they are only gifted with talent, it's not something they deserved.

I'm sure some of them are praying for other things, but the majority seem to have a good atitude that these short lived accomplishments are a distant second to their faith in Christ.

I find it interesting that you would believe that "God" would have to prioritize what he cared about.

My only problem with it is when athletes don't also thank god when they lose. I know it might not be a big deal, but let's take Kurt Warner for example. If he wins a big game, I guarantee you that the first thing he will do is thank God and redirect the accomplishment to Him... which is great. But when he loses a big game (like last year's Superbowl)... he should do that also and it would be a huge testament to his faith if he did, but he doesn't. I have never seen Kurt honor God that way after a loss.... and it really annoys me. It annoys me for basically the same reason it annoys you. God doesn't care who wins the game.



^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This is the section of the Bible that all athletes should live by.



I have long thought this, but the far majority of the world believes that He does, in fact, need to prioritize.... this includes probably 95% of 'atheists', when speaking in hypotheticals.

Omniscience, omnipresence, and omnipotence are apparently hard words to understand.

So how do you reconcile that with Creation?

What's the motivation to create?

Certainly successfully accomplishing a task wouldn't be motivation to an omnipotent being.

And omniscience seems to be a barrier to wanting to see how things play out after creation.

Where does the need or desire to create come in?

(Also, I realize that trying to assign human emotions to a God is probably equally silly, but I think it's fun to think about.)

It's more superstitious than pretentious. Superstitions tend to prevail in circumstances where a certain outcome is highly desired, but achieving it is only partially under control: e.g. gambling, sports, weather.

Unpredictable relationships between actions and consequences lead to the feeling of outside control... think of a ouija board or divining rod. It feels like it is moving on its own because you can't predict where it will go next. The feeling of control comes from our brain's ability to predict what will happen next.

ummm ouijia boards are real

so is God

Atheists shouldn't ride motorcycles.

Where would the Israelites have found Wonder Dust?

little know fact: the secret ingredient is Powdered Matzo Balls.

first of all, I not looking for any ones sympathy, you have no clue of the person of who I am, or what is going on with me. I feel for your sewage problem I do, but the thing is you don't know what is in my heart and soul if I could honestly give my life to save them I would, so were is that being selfish. I am dying. There's nothing in this world that is going to stop that process. It's part of reality. So If I could save another humans life I would in a heart beat because that's who I am. They stopped my radiation. Not because I asked them too, because there no sense continuing. But I don't want people to feel sorry or to say too bad, I am not looking for that. Chrozzo and I are good friends, it hit me like a ton of bricks when I found out, especially when he called me the day he went in as if he was saying good bye, so don't tell me I am selfish you ass. I would give my life for any kid here, or any person. Your acting like an arrogant jerk. the problem here is people don't like dealing in reality or truth or don't like the fact that I speak so bluntly about my life. Well this is the religion forum and here is where I came for some solitude and prayer and hope and what ever it took, he just might hear me. I have been ripped apart here emotionally by a lot of people but I also have developed some true friends as well. When I leave this world I will be at peace and I will know that at least I tried to care and love and do the best I could to help others. I am not perfect and heaven knows I have committed a lot of sins as well but the lord will have to decide what he plans to do with me at that time. But I know there are an awe full lot of hate in this place and that's something people will have to deal with later in there own lives.



It's that exactly you can't predict what's going to happen next thus sometimes you lose control of your feelings, and being a female especially one who is in the state of mind that I am in it's easily to make irrational comments and yeah I am making more of them as time gets closer I guess. And according to my psychiatrist that's to be expected and normal to have emotional thoughts and thinking like she said "I am a human dying".

I got nothing better to do so why not take some time to respond...

first of all, I not looking for any ones sympathy
Yes you were. Maybe you don't realize it but it was a obvious post of LOOK AT ME PEOPLE AND FEEL SORRY FOR ME AND MY PROBLEMS.

you have no clue of the person of who I am, or what is going on with me.
Yes I do, it doesn't take anyone long to figure out that you seek out attention any way you can get it and this was just a another way for you to try and put people's focus on you. You do it all the time. It's why most people treat you the way they do.

but the thing is you don't know what is in my heart and soul if I could honestly give my life to save them I would, so were is that being selfish. I am dying. There's nothing in this world that is going to stop that process. It's part of reality. So If I could save another humans life I would in a heart beat because that's who I am.

I have no doubts that you would like to give your life up for them. That is not the issue. It's how you go about expressing it. That is what gets my goat.

Chrozzo and I are good friends, it hit me like a ton of bricks when I found out, especially when he called me the day he went in as if he was saying good bye, so don't tell me I am selfish you ass.

You are selfish though, you just clearly don't see it. Not my problem. There is nothing at all wrong to feel terrible about your friend who is sick. There is nothing wrong with wanting him to pull through. Maybe you should actually learn something from him. But the fact of the matter is that you went around this site, not just here and posting messages to God to take your life and spare his. God doesn't read poker message boards you dink. You only posted that to make yourself stand out. You posted that for attention because the plain simple fact is that you are a textbook example of a attention whore. Keep trying to deny it but you are. It has nothing to do with your cancer, it has nothing to do with your feelings for Chrozzo's well being, it simply has to do with how you go about directing attention on to your self.

I would give my life for any kid here, or any person. Your acting like an arrogant jerk. the problem here is people don't like dealing in reality or truth or don't like the fact that I speak so bluntly about my life. Well this is the religion forum and here is where I came for some solitude and prayer and hope and what ever it took, he just might hear me.

I don't really care if you think I am an arrogant jerk because you mighty be right. At least I can freely admit that. But you keep thinking that you aren't an attention whore. You didn't come to the Religion forum for solitude, you came for attention. You posted the same thing in General OT. And I believe other places as well on this site. You want prayer, go to church. Call family and friends. Don't go posting all over an internet poker message board saying you want God to take your life and save some other guy as if God is logged in reading this site. It's just plain retarded in my opinion. It is nothing but a sad sad pathetic cry for attention and takes away from what Chrozzo was fighting. You took his situation and used it to gain sympathy for your situation. Keep trying to deny it but that is exactly what you did whether you even realize it.


I have been ripped apart here emotionally by a lot of people but I also have developed some true friends as well. When I leave this world I will be at peace and I will know that at least I tried to care and love and do the best I could to help others. I am not perfect and heaven knows I have committed a lot of sins as well but the lord will have to decide what he plans to do with me at that time. But I know there are an awe full lot of hate in this place and that's something people will have to deal with later in there own lives.

Lets be honest here. You created all of this yourself by posting what you have. It still amazes me that you are indeed not some huge elaborate joke account. If you are a joke account than you are the king/queeen of the internet. If not, wow, I do actually feel sympathy for you but not for the reasons you seek.

But hey, look I am giving you attention so at least I am giving you what you crave. Keep saying you don't seek attention it's a good way of getting it here.

Sorry I haven't responded until now. I usually avoid this forum, so I forget when I break down and post in here.

According to the Bible, His motivation was to glorify Himself through creation.

Seriously? He did it for his ego?

Yes. But obviously you could look at it one of two ways. Either he's a total jerk or not.

Let's say you have an old lady in a house in the country... and she LOVES cats. So she starts feeding them and watching them play and do stuff. The cats that are independent and stay to themselves, not caring about the old woman, will be on there own. The cats that love the old woman and going to get brought inside and shown much love. She still loves all the cats, and desires them to love her, but in the end, it's their decision, and the cats make her happy and they make her feel good about herself, since they rub on her leg and purr all the time. It's basically the same way with God, except that he actually did the manufacturing of the 'cats' and already knows which ones will decide to love him back.

yep. pret-tay dooo-shay.

most peculiar analogy of the week award goes to

BRVHEART for "God is a Cat Lady"

except she's a cat manufacturer.

who hides herself from her cats, but still expects them to worship her. If they don't, she'll burn them for eternity.

This isn't the case. He was actively and visibly a part of the lives of Jews in the Old Testament, and then came to Earth. I'm guessing you even have a book written by him in your house somewhere. He's far from hiding. (He just left town for a little while.)

Also, separation from God, once you know that he is real and that you could have been with him in heaven, is the real torment. There are plenty of Biblical scholars that say that 'hell' is the separation, not literal burning. In the OT, it even describes a scenario in which people in heaven are separated from the other group by a chasm and that they can actually see the people in heaven and what they are doing, but can't join them. So who knows what 'hell' will be like... but either way, I don't want to be there.