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bigblue
Anyone else watching???
Going pretty smooth and pretty amazing how they pulled this off...
bigblue
With Stevie Wonder playing a song.... made this day 100X better .....
Suited_Up
Nope.
bigblue
I think Jennifer Hudson shouldnt of sung.....
Tehtoe
QUOTE (bigblue @ Tuesday, July 7th, 2009, 1:25 PM) *
I think Jennifer Hudson shouldnt of sung.....


shouldn't have
Mercury69
I hope MJ is getting gangbanged by a bunch of Transformers and mouth-raped by a giant cactus.
brvheart's I Phone
I hate this thread, the OP, and anyone that doesn't also hate it.
El Guapo
Stop calling Michael Jackson MJ. I keep thinking for a split second something happened to Michael Jordan.


I hate brvheart's I...
SBriand
Wacko Jacko was not worth an ounce of this crap
timwakefield
My feelings on this "discussion:" He was an immensely talented, immensely troubled person who radically changed the face of popular music. Did he molest children? I have no idea, but I think there's a reasonable chance that he did not, and a reasonable chance that he did. Was he extremely weird and sexually repressed, conflicted, and/or secretive? Yes. Were a lot of his behavioral problems likely caused by his bizarre and abusive childhood? Yes. Did zillions of people absolutely love his music and his performances? Yes.

I wasn't a big fan or anything but I can certainly understand the outpouring of sadness and sympathy. I dunno - if you can watch early Jackson 5 videos and not understand why it's a shame that the planet lost such a talented, unique, exciting personality, then I guess I don't understand the collective you. Yes, he had become somebody very different-looking, and no he was not still churning out the hits, but in the end he was still the same person who made all those amazing songs.
king_tanner
QUOTE (bigblue @ Tuesday, July 7th, 2009, 11:25 AM) *
I think Jennifer Hudson shouldnt of sung.....

Why not? I thought it was a great performance.
irishguy
I invited the neighbors kids over for a tribute sleepover. Neighbors aren't to impressed.
timwakefield
QUOTE (irishguy @ Tuesday, July 7th, 2009, 6:11 PM) *
I invited the neighbors kids over for a tribute sleepover. Neighbors aren't to impressed.



Did you speak in a high voice and explain how fun and innocent and affectionate it would be? That would definitely sell it.
eYank
Just ask my local congressman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RmneMDZlWQ...haxa_popt00us13
SBriand
QUOTE (timwakefield @ Tuesday, July 7th, 2009, 4:04 PM) *
I dunno - if you can watch early Jackson 5 videos and not understand why it's a shame that the planet lost such a talented, unique, exciting personality, then I guess I don't understand the collective you. Yes, he had become somebody very different-looking, and no he was not still churning out the hits, but in the end he was still the same person who made all those amazing songs.


I don't think he deserves all of what happened today because he is nothing that special. I don't care what he looked like 20 years ago compared to what he looked like 1 year ago, none of that has anything to do with anything. There were memorials here around town for him, people crying and dancing over an ENTERTAINER. I will never ever understand people who care so much for people that they never really knew other than what was in the media or on their ipod. Also, he was not a humanitarian so people need to stop placing him on that fake pedestal. We should hold memorials like this for the soldiers dying everyday in the war, or get the families together of fireman and policeman who died in the line of duty, they deserve it more than some secluded hermit who sang some pretty awesome songs 20 years ago.
coug2828
the part where magic johnson said the highlight of his life was eating kentucky fried chicken with michael jackson seemed really sincere
SuperJon
QUOTE (SBriand @ Tuesday, July 7th, 2009, 9:37 PM) *
I don't think he deserves all of what happened today because he is nothing that special. I don't care what he looked like 20 years ago compared to what he looked like 1 year ago, none of that has anything to do with anything. There were memorials here around town for him, people crying and dancing over an ENTERTAINER. I will never ever understand people who care so much for people that they never really knew other than what was in the media or on their ipod. Also, he was not a humanitarian so people need to stop placing him on that fake pedestal. We should hold memorials like this for the soldiers dying everyday in the war, or get the families together of fireman and policeman who died in the line of duty, they deserve it more than some secluded hermit who sang some pretty awesome songs 20 years ago.


Not trying to start a debate, but those soldiers, fireman, and policeman sign up knowing there's a high possibility they will die on the job. That's not to say I don't respect those who choose to do so, because they definitely have much more courage than I do.

As for Michael the entertainer, he was completely original. Doing things that no artist had done before, yet many try to do today. I respect his musical work, because the man was simply put, a genius. As for Michael the person, I could really care less.
SlapStick

byaaatch
QUOTE (SuperJon @ Tuesday, July 7th, 2009, 8:52 PM) *
As for Michael the entertainer, he was completely original. Doing things that no artist had done before, yet many try to do today. I respect his musical work, because the man was simply put, a genius. As for Michael the person, I could really care less.


This is very true. As far as the soldiers lets face there is never enough praise and thanks we could ever give them. So anything done over the top will always not seem right compared to what should be done for the soldiers.

QUOTE (SlapStick @ Wednesday, July 8th, 2009, 12:54 AM) *


Too damn funny
Mercury69
QUOTE (SuperJon @ Tuesday, July 7th, 2009, 11:52 PM) *
Not trying to start a debate, but those soldiers, fireman, and policeman sign up knowing there's a high possibility they will die on the job. That's not to say I don't respect those who choose to do so, because they definitely have much more courage than I do.

As for Michael the entertainer, he was completely original. Doing things that no artist had done before, yet many try to do today. I respect his musical work, because the man was simply put, a genius. As for Michael the person, I could really care less.



No

Falsetto: Many people, notably Smokey Robinson. Marvin Gaye kicks Jackson's butt.
Dance: Kelly, Astaire, O'Connor. Sure, the moonwalk was awesome and original, but many other dancers also had their signature moves
Entertainer: Ummm...Sammy Davis Jr, anyone?

Michael Jackson = overrated and overhyped
BigDMcGee
Remember when the weirdest thing about MJ was that we just thought he was gay? Like he had a high voice, and didn't seem to be into chicks? That was like 25 years ago.
James D
Also, he was 50 years old. I mean, it's not THAT young is it? Obv it's not really old either, but why are people acting like it's so tragic because he was so young?


I think it's just because people are associating his homosexual relationships with 8 year old boys with his own real age.
El Guapo
QUOTE (James D @ Wednesday, July 8th, 2009, 12:35 PM) *
Also, he was 50 years old. I mean, it's not THAT young is it? Obv it's not really old either, but why are people acting like it's so tragic because he was so young?


I think it's just because people are associating his homosexual relationships with 8 year old boys with his own real age.



Well, it is about 30 years earlier than his life expectancy. If Actuary ever posts here again, we can get him to verify that.
BigDMcGee
QUOTE (El Guapo @ Wednesday, July 8th, 2009, 2:51 PM) *
Well, it is about 30 years earlier than his life expectancy. If Actuary ever posts here again, we can get him to verify that.



black american male's life expectancy isn't 80, btw.
brvheart
QUOTE (BigDMcGee @ Wednesday, July 8th, 2009, 10:34 PM) *
black american male's life expectancy isn't 80, btw.


I'll bet it is for black millionaires.
timwakefield
QUOTE (BigDMcGee @ Wednesday, July 8th, 2009, 11:34 PM) *
black american male's life expectancy isn't 80, btw.



Not at birth it isn't. At age 50 though, 80 is probably pretty close. Conservative even, for someone in his tax bracket.



Edit: Grrrr, brvheart. Actually I guess I made a bit of a different point than you. :/
BigDMcGee
QUOTE (timwakefield @ Wednesday, July 8th, 2009, 10:49 PM) *
Not at birth it isn't. At age 50 though, 80 is probably pretty close. Conservative even, for someone in his tax bracket.



Edit: Grrrr, brvheart. Actually I guess I made a bit of a different point than you. :/



Not his age 50, with the years of prescription drug use, and his general bizaree lifestyle.
brvheart
QUOTE (BigDMcGee @ Wednesday, July 8th, 2009, 11:00 PM) *
Not his age 50, with the years of prescription drug use, and his general bizaree lifestyle.


He supposedly was frequently going to shady motels for gay sex, so 50 was probably high for his lifestyle.
Mercury69
All the Jackson excusologists are sickening:

"He was a child himself and didn't know the difference"
"He didn't have a true sense of reality, therefore we must be lenient"

Not that those are actual quotes, but they synthesise the gist of it...
timwakefield
QUOTE (Mercury69 @ Thursday, July 9th, 2009, 11:04 AM) *
All the Jackson excusologists are sickening:

"He was a child himself and didn't know the difference"
"He didn't have a true sense of reality, therefore we must be lenient"

Not that those are actual quotes, but they synthesise the gist of it...


That's not the feeling I've gotten from MJ apologists. I hear them explaining why he never would touch a child that way. Most of his supporters think he's completely innocent of child molestation.

I don't really care (I mean it's not like he was accused of forcibly raping children - so he showed Corey Feldman a book that had a penis in it or something, meh). What I'm really trying to say is that I think it's quite plausible that he was in fact innocent, and there is little actual evidence which points to his guilt. It's also quite possible he was guilty though.
Mercury69
Mentioning Corey Feldman and saying "penis" in the same sentence is a major boner killer.
SuperJon
QUOTE (Mercury69 @ Friday, July 10th, 2009, 9:14 AM) *
Mentioning Corey Feldman and saying "penis" in the same sentence is a major boner killer.



But seperately?
James D
Just a thought... would Michael Jackson have ever let his own kids sleep in another man's bed, without him being there? Not a chance.


If this (in his own words) is such a 'normal thing' to happen, then why not? Surely it's all just innocent and playful and loving etc. Michael Jackson would have been highly suspicious if another man had wanted to sleep with his kids, so it's utter hypocrisy for him (and his cult-like following who call themselves fans) to question those who are/were suspicious of his intentions.
BigDMcGee
QUOTE (James D @ Saturday, July 11th, 2009, 9:23 AM) *
Just a thought... would Michael Jackson have ever let his own kids sleep in another man's bed, without him being there? Not a chance.


If this (in his own words) is such a 'normal thing' to happen, then why not? Surely it's all just innocent and playful and loving etc. Michael Jackson would have been highly suspicious if another man had wanted to sleep with his kids, so it's utter hypocrisy for him (and his cult-like following who call themselves fans) to question those who are/were suspicious of his intentions.



I think you're making a mistake in your reasoning here. I don't know how you can suggest that there's no chance that MJ would let his kids sleep in another man's bed. I mean, how can you possibly claim to know what a man that crazy would or wouldn't do. Making moral outrage claims that MJ is a hypocrite requires you ascribing a great deal more sanity to the man than I do
timwakefield
QUOTE (James D @ Saturday, July 11th, 2009, 10:23 AM) *
Just a thought... would Michael Jackson have ever let his own kids sleep in another man's bed, without him being there? Not a chance.


If this (in his own words) is such a 'normal thing' to happen, then why not? Surely it's all just innocent and playful and loving etc. Michael Jackson would have been highly suspicious if another man had wanted to sleep with his kids, so it's utter hypocrisy for him (and his cult-like following who call themselves fans) to question those who are/were suspicious of his intentions.



MJ was once asked that exact question in an interview, and he eventually answered that yes he would let them if he knew the man and blah blah.
Suited_Up
QUOTE (timwakefield @ Saturday, July 11th, 2009, 5:26 PM) *
MJ was once asked that exact question in an interview, and he eventually answered that yes he would let them if he knew the man and blah blah.


I think he said they actually have, not just that they could.
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