Only 48 hands on villain but he was running pretty laggy so far, in the 'hood of 48/20 with a few 3-bets to his credit. Hadn't seen him show down any hands yet, though.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (7 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (MP1) ($6.42)
MP2 ($5.18)
CO ($1.19)
Button ($2.30)
SB ($4.70)
BB ($0.83)
UTG ($1)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J, J
1 fold, Hero bets $0.15, 3 folds, SB raises to $0.30, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.65) 6, 3, 5 (2 players)
SB bets $0.61, Hero ???

I hate these spots because this could end up being a very expensive hand and I really don't know where I stand. I'm inclined to give him credit for a big hand since I wasn't raising from a prime stealing position and he 3-bet from the SB.

You have to peel at least one here. The min-raise he makes opens the door for all sorts of pocket pairs and you're ahead of half of them. You may get 2 free ones when a diamond hits. He easily could have AK, AQ, or AJ of diamonds... or just AKo / AQo

Your initial raise is kind of small for these stakes... I'd be potting it or more pretty often as my standard opener just because people call with all sorts of nonsense preflop that we want to get value from. Really his 3bet is just slightly bigger than a normal sized opener.

oh and 48/20 isn't laggy, he's a redfish

I think it's time to make him show one down.
Raise to $1.80.

I think this is a raise

Against a LAG 5nl villain, who's 3bet range includes lots of Ax soooooooted, we need to raise for value here

I don't know if we can give villain credit for thinking too much about position

Raise to $1.80 as prescribed by Dr. Demoines

yup, make it $1.80 and call a shove.


I don't think this is the kind of villain we want to be folding overpairs to.

So far everyone has advocated for raising the flop. Would you raise and fold to a reraise, or would you all be prepared to get it in with JJ here?

48 hands is such a small sample that I wouldn't feel comfortable getting it in with JJ based on his stats. In such a small sample his few reraises could easily have been big pairs

I'd be prepared to get it in here.

Never fold to a reraise. Do everything you can to get it all in on this flop. Villain will call with worse pairs, and flush draws.

Yes, get it in

Sometimes a 48/20 (albeit small sample) villain will show up with QQ/KK here, but we crush most of villains range

+1, although crush is a strong word..im sure we're ahead of most of his range

Uhm i may be crazy here but does anyone else think a 4-bet preflop would have made things a little more clear to us. Yes is the villian has AA,KK,QQ were screwed but he is a LAG at .05 cent micro he probably would call a 4-bet with suited Ax's and maybe some other suited junk along with AK, AQ. Our jacks play well against that range, and if we see overs it makes it an easy fold. Also I only think 4-bet because of stack sizes are close to 100 bb right? Idk let me know if im just insane.

Uhm i may be crazy here but does anyone else think a 4-bet preflop would have made things a little more clear to us. Yes is the villian has AA,KK,QQ were screwed but he is a LAG at .05 cent micro he probably would call a 4-bet with suited Ax's and maybe some other suited junk along with AK, AQ. Our jacks play well against that range, and if we see overs it makes it an easy fold. Also I only think 4-bet because of stack sizes are close to 100 bb right? Idk let me know if im just insane.

How much do you recommend the 4-bet be?

I'm not opposed, but tell us how much and your plan for further action; if he flats/5-bets?

How are we making it more clear exactly?


If by clear, you mean, if he shoves we fold? because that would be terrible. As a general rule, you should never 4-bet/fold with 100bb stacks.


or do you mean, if he folds, we know we were good? well, clear perhaps, but not optimal.


and what if he smooth calls our 4-bet? How clear is our situation then?


I think 4-betting is terrible in this spot. We would very rarely get all-in in a dominating position (99 TT maybe), we are more likely to get all-in either dominated, or flipping, or fold out the range of hands that we crush.

This is wrong. You can 4 bet/fold with 100bb stacks.

*shrug* I suppose. Maybe I'm incorrect, but 4bet/folding is not in my arsenal at this point. I don't play in many/any games where this can be the best play.


edit: to be fair, I play predominantly live games where the standard raise is bigger, making 4bet/folding ridiculous.

You could 4bet pot preflop and get it in given that stacks are less than 100bb effective and hes kind of a nutjob.

As played you NEED to raise/get it in on the flop. He'll stack off with worse soo often.

If you 4 bet preflop, you need to call a shove. If you can't call a 5bet shove with JJ preflop then call the 3 bet.