I think this one is an obvious answer but I'm just curious to see if anyone differs with me. Villain is UTG, a pretty LAG opponent who I've seen over 2-3 sessions and I would guess is either break-even or a slightly losing player. I'm usually TAG in this game and I assume villain has noted that about me. Villain's stack is about equal with mine at around $160 to start hand.

Villain raises to $10 UTG, UTG+1 calls, folded to me in LP and I raise to $35 with TT. Both players call.
Flop 964 rainbow. Pot about $105.
Opp's check to me, I bet $50, Villain quickly shoves for about $70 more, I call rather quickly.

Figured there really is no folding for $70 more in this spot, if that flop beat me then so be it, villain shouldn't be in there with a hand that hits that flop so hard. And if he has a better overpair (he did raise utg then flat my 3bet, so it was a thought) then kudos to him. Just wondering if anyone would consider a fold in this spot, and feel free to critique me on the rest of the hand if you think I made a misstep along the way.

With $105 in the pot, bet $75 and then his raise is only $45 more and it's an even easier call.

In general, TT is good on a 964 rainbow board, but C/R is a pretty strong line. We Could see a set, JJ/QQ here a lot

If the villain is really LAG, I want my money in on this board and prob would have open shoved. I wouldn't be happy about getting CRAI, but at this point, we have to call.

Raise more preflop. $45 sounds good.

Sounds like you guys agree with what I was thinking, which was to lead out with more and maybe even just open-shove. I think part of the reason I went with $50 was to try to entice a CR or a worse hand to come along, but you are right I should have bet more. It wouldn't have changed the results but I do now believe its a more appropriate line to take.

Yeah I hated the CRAI but I'm glad you agree that there is no folding here. KingJames - a set or QQ/JJ was what I feared most but had to get it in at that point. If we each had bigger stacks it would have been a different story I suppose.

Does anyone agree with Temporary Nuts that I should have raised more preflop? Just curious, I still think $35 was a good number in that situation. $40 might be the max I would be convinced to go with, but I didn't feel that the table in general or the villain were playing wild loose enough to get a worse hand to call me for more than that.

You're most likely beat because check-raising against a 3-bettor with little fold equity is a pretty strong move. I'm putting my money on a set.

Yes it felt that way to me as well, but do you fold for that much more when you can't be sure you are beat? Would you have played it any differently jm?

I too bump this up more pre, your squeezes need to be bigger that a normal 3bet, and with TT you really really don't want to see both players call.

On the flop, a little bigger bet is fine, better than an open shove IMO. You still get people to spaz out with crap like A9 (they figure they are calling the whole way so why not just shove now since they are so short), which is the same reason I snap this c/r.

No, it's one of those situations where you know you're probably dead but you have to make the call. You've put half your stack in already, which should commit you to the hand, and you're now facing a final decision with 3-1 odds.

Ok thats what I thought of it, too.

Swoly- I don't think of 3-betting TT in position as a squeeze play..I'm not saying you're wrong, I just never thought of it that way. When I think of a squeeze I think of a raise with a relatively weak hand when you are trying to take advantage of an original raiser who you think is weak and a subsequent caller who probably won't have enough to call the 3bet either. Thats just the basics I think I picked up from HOH. You think I should view the situation as a squeeze? I think TT is probably strong enough to make a 'normal' 3bet. If I'm thinking wrongly though please correct me, I do appreciate your thoughts on the matter.

Yes, in technical terms a "squeeze play" is done with a marginal to bad hand to take advantage of the situation you described. Practically, though, you will see it referred to in any position where there has been a raise and a caller in front. So you might be "squeezing" with AA even. The point is that you have to make the 3bet size higher to compensate for that caller in-between.

Right, Ok I get you. Another technical question- when squeezing I believe your goal is to take down the pot right there, preflop, no? If so, thats another reason I wouldn't consider a raise when you want some action to be a squeeze, but I understand it could certainly look that way to someone who doesn't know your hand.

Anyway I appreciate all the help on this one guys. If anyone is interested in the results and has a strong enough stomach to hear it:
After I called villain turned over 64o, flopping 2 pair. I got no help on turn or river.

Yes he opened utg with 64o, then called my 3bet oop. Definitely did not see him as capable of that bad a play, I mean I would have felt way better if he had 66,44,or 99, but thats poker eh? Impossible to guess as to whether or not he would have played if i 3bet $40-45. Actually I kind of wish I asked him, but I was too busy trying to keep my composure til I could get to my car and cry, lol

My normal 3 bet would be 3x the original raise put 1 bb per caller. Since it's live I'd probably make it 4x + 1 bb per limper, so I'd probably raise to $45-$50.

Also, by raising to $50 preflop you can get stacks in on a favorable flop easier. If we raised to $50, pot on the flop would have been $113 and you would have had $110 left in your stack, which allows you to shove the flop.

Make sure you sit with villain as often as possible. You will win money in the long run. 3 bet the fuck out of him preflop for value, never as a bluff.

In general, only raise with if you know what to do if you get reraised.

Is TT a little thin to 3-bet OOP?

Edit: nvm reread post

Oh for sure..I have actually sat with him since and had a nice couple of convos, he's actually a pretty nice guy and was happy with the way I handled the beat he put on me that time. I also have him figured out pretty completely now and do look forward to getting into pots with him