Also looks like ben gordon to the pistons, 5 years 50 million... i see the pistons getting villanueva as well

I wouldn't want Gordon on my team for that kind of money. A guy who can't guard his postion, never passes and is a selfish scorer. No thanks.

lol, he declined more money last off season from the bulls. fhl

Also looks like ben gordon to the pistons, 5 years 50 million... i see the pistons getting villanueva as well

that deals already done isn't it? just a matter of waiting til the 8th to make it official.

I don't see how getting Gordon doesn't cause the same problem as Iverson did. Who sits on the bench? RIP??

Pistons Line-up:

5 Rasheed
4 CharlieV/McDyess
3 Prince
2 Gordon/RIP
1 Stuckey

Good!

I hope this goes through!

why? this confuses me. if i were a bulls fan i'd be a bit upset.

I'm bummed he's gone, but I'm glad we didn't try to sign him for anything more than what he got.

he said today on espn that chicago never even offered him a contract, that really surprised me

Looking like Artest to the Lakers and Ariza most likely going to the Rockets.

Rockets have no big men at all.

wow Artest is only 29 who knew?

Talk about disgusting moves in recent hours. So now we have the following potential juggernauts in east and west. Aaron brooks is gonna make fantasy owners go gaga...Houston is falling apart FAST.

LAKERS

Bynum/Odom
Gasol
Artest
Kobe
Fisher


SPURS

Duncan
Some dude for rebounds
Jefferson
Ginobilli
Parker


CELTICS

Garnett
Rasheed Wallace (it's gonna happen)
Pierce
Allen
Rondo


MAGIC

Superman
Lewis
Pietrus
Carter
Nelson


CAVS

Shaq
Varejao/Smith/most likely another free agent
Lebron
West
Mo Williams

Turk to the Blazers... seems like an odd fit.

why? this confuses me. if i were a bulls fan i'd be a bit upset.

turk probably backing out and going to raptors. who knows

Source: Turkoglu changes mind on Blazers
By Adrian Wojnarowski, Yahoo! Sports
2 hours, 41 minutes ago

Free agent Hedo Turkoglu(notes) has backed out of his commitment to the Portland Trail Blazers and plans to sign with the Toronto Raptors, a source close to the talks told Yahoo! Sports on Friday night.

Turkoglu had agreed on a five-year, $50 million deal with the Blazers, but changed his mind and could be headed for a five-year, $56 million deal with the Raptors. Toronto would have to renounce three free agents – Shawn Marion(notes), Carlos Delfino(notes) and Anthony Parker(notes) – to create the cap space for Turkoglu.

Apparently, the Blazers are already busy exploring other free-agent options for the $9 million in salary-cap space.

A source says Turkoglu’s wife wanted badly to live in Toronto, a far more European-style city, and that’s where it appears the Turkish native is headed. The Raptors have embraced the Euro game under GM Bryan Colangelo, building a roster that includes Euro talents Jose Calderon(notes) and Andrea Bargnani(notes).

Five years ago, Turkoglu was close to signing with the Phoenix Suns that Colangelo was running, but changed his mind and went to the Orlando Magic.

After opting out of his contract last week in Orlando, he became one of the hottest free agents on the market. Turkoglu, 30, averaged 16.8 points and 5.3 rebounds last season for the Magic.

Artest in LA just isn't fair. Like they needed any help.

Artest in LA just isn't fair. Like they needed any help.

i have a friend who is a lakers fan and is pretty upset he loves ariza

I think it is questionable how much of an upgrade Artest is over Ariza. Not on talent obviously....but will Ron behave/accept being a role player/etc.

One good point made by someone on TV was that now Kobe will NEVER have to guard the other team's best perimeter player. Thats a big plus for LA.

If San Antonio or Boston get Rasheed Wallace, they will be just as loaded as the Lakers.

why? this confuses me. if i were a bulls fan i'd be a bit upset.

I'm bummed he's gone, but I'm glad we didn't try to sign him for anything more than what he got.

he said today on espn that chicago never even offered him a contract, that really surprised me

No team that has Ben Gordon as a significant part of it can ever contend for a title.

Him coming off the bench in a Vinnie Johnson role and playing limited minutes on a good team for instant offense with the second unit would be possible.

Don't really want to pay $10 million for a guy who is only a bit better than Eddie House.

He's Larry Hughes Jr.

If he touches the ball, you might as well just get back on defense for the next possession.

I think it is questionable how much of an upgrade Artest is over Ariza. Not on talent obviously....but will Ron behave/accept being a role player/etc.

One good point made by someone on TV was that now Kobe will NEVER have to guard the other team's best perimeter player. Thats a big plus for LA.

If San Antonio or Boston get Rasheed Wallace, they will be just as loaded as the Lakers.

Whether it was apathy or age catching up to him Wallace's game took a large step back last year. Don't project the Wallace from 4 years ago onto whatever team he ends up with in 2009. That being said he still will help whatever team he ends up on a lot.

I think the Celtics in particular are going to take a step back this season. Age is really going to catch up to them.

I think a lot of people are underestimating how good Ron Artest is.

He's a top 20 player in the league, maybe higher.

And anybody who thinks he's going to be a problem doesn't know him or his career well enough. He is the PERFECT guy for their team. Rasheed Wallace going to Boston is big too. I can't foresee anybody beating either of these teams barring injuries.

Artest is very good but I think Top 20 or higher usually demands more than mid-level exception money. Mayybe you can find a couple players you'd be willing to trade below for Artest but not many. It's not in any order and I probable left some big names off that could be substituted like Carmelo, Shaq and Nash.

1 Kobe
2 Lebron
3 Duncan
4 Garnett
5 Pierce
6 Pau Gasol
7 Bosh
8 Dwight
9 Chris Paul
10 Yao Ming
11 Kevin Durant
12 Danny Granger
13 Deron Williams
14 Wade
15 Dirk
16 Amare
17 Arenas
18 Rose
19 Elton Brand
20 Roy

Is Mark Cuban taking drugs.

Jason Kidd 3 years for $24 million while no other team would possibly give him more than the mid level exemption and 3 years for a 72 year old point guard. WTF.

Artest is a great defensive player and very good offensive player who has a tendency to take some bad shots. I would take him over a few players on your list such as Brand and Arenas or players on bad teams who have put up big scoring numbers like Granger. Houston will miss him more than they'll miss McGrady this year.

He could have got more money somehere else, but he wanted to play with th Lakers. So much so that after Game 6 in Boston, he walked into the Lakers locker room and told Phil Jackson that he wants to play for him and he can help bring a championship. Then he walked into the shower area while Kobe was showering and told him he's going to come to LA to help him out. Money was not a factor.

looks like the bulls will be getting carlos boozer, and send kirk hinrich to the blazers and tyrus thomas to the jazz

looks like the bulls will be getting carlos boozer, and send kirk hinrich to the blazers and tyrus thomas to the jazz

But before I get to that, I guess I have to deal with this trade story that was making the rounds in Chicago and the NBA Thursday of a three-way deal involving the Bulls, Trailblazers and Jazz with Carlos Boozer going to the Bulls, Kirk Hinrich to the Trailblazers and Tyrus Thomas to the Jazz.

Not true.

Made up.

Fabrication.

Prevarication.

Am I being too subtle here?

Interesting. On the one hand, it sucks to see everyone BUT the Heat get stronger in the East. On the other hand, didn't Chicago just blow its 2010 cap room so it cannot come after Wade? I hope so. If they got Boozer and they still have room for 2010, I will officially start worrying about Wade leaving town next year.

edit: Boozer is in the last year of his contract so Chicago did not blow his cap room.....but it would be hard to re-sign him and sign Wade.

That deal is not going to happen. Sam Smith completely shoots it down.

Why in the World would the Bulls be an attractive place for D Wade as a free agent ?