Check out the following hand history. No converter, as Carribean Sun is not covered by the converter. 3 sets of quads in 4 hands...something seems fishy to me!

------HAND 1------
Game #658491003: Texas Hold'em Limit ($0.50/$1) - 2005/05/20 - 13:51:08 (ET)
Table "Raphael" Seat 6 is the button.
Seat 1: Haida ($20.06 in chips)
Seat 2: Spacey ($32.33 in chips)
Seat 3: LuisF ($24.98 in chips)
Seat 4: j_looser ($18 in chips)
Seat 5: canehead ($34.50 in chips)
Seat 6: Rocketwad ($11.81 in chips)
Seat 7: NiZe0ne ($16 in chips)
Seat 8: herrbbiie ($22.76 in chips)
Seat 9: maliandk ($35.60 in chips)
Seat 10: Jere24074 ($9.52 in chips)
NiZe0ne: posts small blind $0.25
herrbbiie: posts big blind $0.50
Jere24074: posts big blind $0.50
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to Rocketwad [6c 2s]
maliandk: folds
Jere24074: checks
Haida: folds
Spacey: calls $0.50
LuisF: calls $0.50
j_looser: calls $0.50
canehead: folds
Rocketwad: folds
NiZe0ne: folds
herrbbiie: checks
----- FLOP ----- [As 4c 3h]
herrbbiie: checks
Jere24074: checks
Spacey: checks
LuisF: checks
j_looser: checks
----- TURN ----- [As 4c 3h][3d]
herrbbiie: checks
Jere24074: checks
Spacey: bets $1
LuisF: folds
j_looser: folds
herrbbiie: calls $1
Jere24074: folds
----- RIVER ----- [As 4c 3h 3d][4s]
herrbbiie: bets $1
Spacey: raises $2
herrbbiie: raises $2
Spacey: raises $2
herrbbiie: raises $2
Spacey: raises $2
herrbbiie: calls $1
----- SHOW DOWN -----
Spacey: shows [3c 3s] (Four of a kind, Threes)
herrbbiie: mucks hand
Spacey collected $15.95 from Main pot

------HAND 3------
Game #658513623: Texas Hold'em Limit ($0.50/$1) - 2005/05/20 - 13:54:39 (ET)
Table "Raphael" Seat 8 is the button.
Seat 1: Haida ($20.06 in chips)
Seat 2: Spacey ($40.78 in chips)
Seat 3: LuisF ($25.88 in chips)
Seat 4: j_looser ($17.50 in chips)
Seat 5: canehead ($34.50 in chips)
Seat 6: Rocketwad ($11.81 in chips)
Seat 7: NiZe0ne ($15.75 in chips)
Seat 8: herrbbiie ($14.76 in chips)
Seat 9: maliandk ($35.10 in chips)
Seat 10: Jere24074 ($8.52 in chips)
maliandk: posts small blind $0.25
Jere24074: posts big blind $0.50
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to Rocketwad [Jh 4s]
Haida: folds
Spacey: calls $0.50
LuisF: calls $0.50
j_looser: folds
canehead: calls $0.50
Rocketwad: folds
NiZe0ne: folds
herrbbiie: calls $0.50
maliandk: folds
Jere24074: checks
----- FLOP ----- [Kc 2c Kh]
Jere24074: bets $0.50
Spacey: calls $0.50
LuisF: folds
canehead: calls $0.50
herrbbiie: calls $0.50
----- TURN ----- [Kc 2c Kh][5c]
Jere24074: checks
Spacey: checks
canehead: checks
herrbbiie: bets $1
Jere24074: calls $1
Spacey: folds
canehead: folds
----- RIVER ----- [Kc 2c Kh 5c][Ks]
Jere24074: bets $1
herrbbiie: raises $2
Jere24074: raises $2
herrbbiie: raises $2
Jere24074: calls $1
----- SHOW DOWN -----
herrbbiie: shows [Kd 6h] (Four of a kind, Kings)
Jere24074: mucks hand
herrbbiie collected $14.05 from Main pot

------HAND 4------
Game #658520783: Texas Hold'em Limit ($0.50/$1) - 2005/05/20 - 13:57:02 (ET)
Table "Raphael" Seat 9 is the button.
Seat 1: Haida ($20.06 in chips)
Seat 2: Spacey ($39.78 in chips)
Seat 3: LuisF ($25.38 in chips)
Seat 4: j_looser ($17.50 in chips)
Seat 5: canehead ($33.50 in chips)
Seat 6: Rocketwad ($11.81 in chips)
Seat 7: NiZe0ne ($15.75 in chips)
Seat 8: herrbbiie ($22.81 in chips)
Seat 9: maliandk ($34.85 in chips)
Seat 10: Jere24074 ($2.52 in chips)
Jere24074: posts small blind $0.25
Haida: posts big blind $0.50
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to Rocketwad [9s 7d]
Spacey: folds
LuisF: calls $0.50
j_looser: folds
canehead: calls $0.50
Rocketwad: folds
NiZe0ne: folds
herrbbiie: calls $0.50
maliandk: folds
Jere24074: folds
Haida: checks
----- FLOP ----- [Ac Ad 6s]
Haida: checks
LuisF: checks
canehead: checks
herrbbiie: checks
----- TURN ----- [Ac Ad 6s][Ah]
Haida: checks
LuisF: checks
canehead: checks
herrbbiie: bets $1
Haida: folds
LuisF: calls $1
canehead: folds
----- RIVER ----- [Ac Ad 6s Ah][9c]
LuisF: checks
herrbbiie: bets $1
LuisF: raises $2
herrbbiie: raises $2
LuisF: raises $2
herrbbiie: calls $1
----- SHOW DOWN -----
LuisF: shows [9d As] (Four of a kind, Aces)
herrbbiie: mucks hand
LuisF collected $11.65 from Main pot

Of course, I wasnt a winner in any of these :cry:

Im still at that table, and we just had another one. That is 4 sets of quads in less than 15 minutes...

That freaking disgusting. Switch sites.

http://www.tinfoilhats.com

Wow. Okay, I've been here exactly five minutes and this is the second "veteran" I've seen who's all uppity about the existence of people who haven't been playing poker since dinosaurs roamed the earth.

Where do you "veterans" come up with the idea that nobody but you is allowed to play poker all of a sudden? Are you crazy or is it just chronic constipation or something?

Honestly, I want to know. What the hell is your problem with people learning the game? Did it ever occur to you that maybe the reason that sites like this one exist so that people who are learning the game can discuss the game with people who already know the game, instead of having the people who already know the game be gigantic, stinking cocks about it?

people are questioning the integrity of an online poker site and wondering if it is "rigged" because "OMG i saw quads this many times in this time period." No one is questioning someones "play" on a certain hand or "learning the game" either. When people wonder if it's rigged they need to take a statistics and probability class. and chill out before you give yourself a heart attack.

You got all that out of a link? You must have realized I was trying to keep you from playing internet poker. Damn, I've been founded out.

Where did I say that you aren't allowed to play? Where did I even imply that I have a problem with you learning the game? I just get tired of seeing "This is rigged" or "somebody should launch an investigation" everyday.

Those who believe it's rigged should wear tinfoil hats. That's all I was saying. Chill.

I never claimed it was rigged, I just indicated that it needs to be looked at. 4 sets of quads in less than 15 minutes - the odds of that happening are staggering indeed :wink:

Also, there have been cases where an internet poker site were shut down due to their shuffling algorithisms. Who is to say that there still aren't some "problems" out there (this particular site certainly isn't one of the top sites out there, so their integrity certainly could be suspect (not saying it is though...just that it could be).
:wink:

it is a skin of the prima network the site is legit

can anyone who knows math of poker figure out the odds of quads hitting twice in a row, or even 4 times in 15 minutes???

Either way, still no reason to flame. If you don't like what a poster post about then don't respond!

I would think 99% of the sites out there are legit, but there is always going to be that 1% that isn't. No matter how much money they already make, some site is going to get greedy and think they can beat the system to make more money and not get caught.


Greed can make people do stupid things no matter how good they already have it.

who flamed? not me I hope? I just found it peculiar that quads were so prevalent on that particular site for that particular duration is all... :wink:

No, not you! :wink:

"UNCpoker"]No, not you! :wink:

phew...sometimes it is hard to tell the tone of what someone type's, so you never know how someone may take what you have typed... :wink:

I know what you mean, it's is hard to tell the difference online.

But like most have said it's not likely that anything dishonest happens for the most part in the online Casinos, but they are by no means better or above doing things that are wrong. There have been live Casinos that were crooks, so why not online?

I am sure the examples you gave were just in the numbers to happen and I would think you wouldn't have any problems with the major online Casinos. But there have also been online rooms shut down for various reasons, whether not protecting their clients, taking the money and running or what have you.