FCP Poker Forum > New Moon: The Twilight Saga

jmkiser

Tuesday, June 2nd, 2009, 1:23 PM

I'm surprised that no one's made this thread yet

November 20, 2009 is the scheduled date.

New Moon Trailer (Youtube)

I don't know who has read the books or knows what, so just in case I'll spoiler the text. I'm excited to see how they bring this book to the movie. New Moon, apparently, has a much larger budget due to the unexpected success of Twilight. The wolf pack looks great and I'm happy with the casting they've done for most of the characters. I also wonder what they're going to do with the Volturi.

Apparently, they're already working on the third movie which is due in June or July of 2010.

king_tanner

Tuesday, June 2nd, 2009, 1:48 PM

Ok this forum is starting to get way too gay, even for me, and I'm pretty gay.

Sportsmack

Tuesday, June 2nd, 2009, 1:51 PM

gheyest thread ever?

Ron_Mexico

Tuesday, June 2nd, 2009, 1:57 PM

QUOTE (Sportsmack @ Tuesday, June 2nd, 2009, 5:51 PM)

gheyest thread ever?

gimme time

although, I have not watched Twilight.

I mean, I will, but it will have to be on HBO or whatever.

I did rent The House Bunny on Monday

jmkiser

Tuesday, June 2nd, 2009, 2:06 PM

QUOTE (king_tanner @ Tuesday, June 2nd, 2009, 2:48 PM)

Ok this forum is starting to get way too gay, even for me, and I'm pretty gay.

Like,

, you know

brvheart

Tuesday, June 2nd, 2009, 8:36 PM

QUOTE (jmkiser @ Tuesday, June 2nd, 2009, 4:23 PM)

I'm surprised that no one's made this thread yet

You are a homosexual.

keith crime

Tuesday, June 2nd, 2009, 9:40 PM

QUOTE (Ron_Mexico @ Tuesday, June 2nd, 2009, 4:57 PM)

gimme time

I did rent The House Bunny on Monday

saw it in the theater I win

Mercury69

Wednesday, June 3rd, 2009, 5:32 AM

dna4ever

Wednesday, June 3rd, 2009, 7:29 AM

My wife is a fricking ridiculous die hard Twilight fan. Read all 4 books at least 10 times and for the longest time she had the most ridiculous crush on Edward Cullen. I mean to the point of where my home PC desktop background was changed, she had some sort of playing card thing that was her car panel by her odometer. She has probably watched the movie 15 times. With all that said I have been exposed to this phenomenon. I haven't ready any of the books, but I did see the movie and it is pretty good. It is definitely not up to all the hype and drama, but I'm sure I'll watch the rest of the series when the movies come out. The New Moon trailer looks pretty good and that one Jake guy is sooooooooooo hot when he takes off his shirt. wait, what?

Ron_Mexico

Wednesday, June 3rd, 2009, 8:47 AM

QUOTE (keith crime @ Wednesday, June 3rd, 2009, 1:40 AM)

saw it in the theater I win

I knew I should've forced you to blow me in Vegas.

keith crime

Wednesday, June 3rd, 2009, 9:08 AM

QUOTE (Ron_Mexico @ Wednesday, June 3rd, 2009, 11:47 AM)

I knew I should've forced you to blow me in Vegas.

like you would have had to force me

donk4life

Wednesday, June 3rd, 2009, 9:35 AM

QUOTE (dna4ever @ Wednesday, June 3rd, 2009, 10:29 AM)

My wife is a fricking ridiculous die hard Twilight fan. Read all 4 books at least 10 times and for the longest time she had the most ridiculous crush on Edward Cullen. I mean to the point of where my home PC desktop background was changed, she had some sort of playing card thing that was her car panel by her odometer. She has probably watched the movie 15 times. With all that said I have been exposed to this phenomenon. I haven't ready any of the books, but I did see the movie and it is pretty good. It is definitely not up to all the hype and drama, but I'm sure I'll watch the rest of the series when the movies come out. The New Moon trailer looks pretty good and that one Jake guy is sooooooooooo hot when he takes off his shirt. wait, what?

I think Ron has some stiff competition here.

Sportsmack

Wednesday, June 3rd, 2009, 10:00 AM

QUOTE (dna4ever @ Wednesday, June 3rd, 2009, 8:29 AM)

My wife is a fricking ridiculous die hard Twilight fan. Read all 4 books at least 10 times and for the longest time she had the most ridiculous crush on Edward Cullen. I mean to the point of where my home PC desktop background was changed, she had some sort of playing card thing that was her car panel by her odometer. She has probably watched the movie 15 times. With all that said I have been exposed to this phenomenon. I haven't ready any of the books, but I did see the movie and it is pretty good. It is definitely not up to all the hype and drama, but I'm sure I'll watch the rest of the series when the movies come out. The New Moon trailer looks pretty good and that one Jake guy is sooooooooooo hot when he takes off his shirt. wait, what?

You married a 15 year old?

dna4ever

Wednesday, June 3rd, 2009, 10:27 AM

QUOTE (Sportsmack @ Wednesday, June 3rd, 2009, 1:00 PM)

You married a 15 year old?

^x3-6

crazy crazy world

Jadaki

Wednesday, June 3rd, 2009, 10:37 AM

QUOTE (Sportsmack @ Wednesday, June 3rd, 2009, 1:00 PM)

You married a 15 year old?

With a mid life boyfriend crisis apparently.

solderz

Wednesday, June 3rd, 2009, 11:15 AM

Stephanie Meyers is one of the worst authors ever. And that's saying something. She is marketing to 12 year old's and her books are about as good as New Kids on the Block's music. The movie, though extremely corny, was 1,000 times better than the books (watched with my niece when I took her to movies and it was her choice - guess what - she's 12), but still pretty much shit. If you think you have a y chromosome and you like this series, get a genetic test to make sure. I think your hormones went a bit nuts during development (no pun intended).

jmkiser

Wednesday, June 3rd, 2009, 12:33 PM

My Y chromosome is fine and I guess I'll be the brave one to admit I love the series. If that means I'm not up-to-date on decent literature, then I can deal.

After reading the books, I, personally, think that the emotional responses to the situational stimuli are pretty accurate if we're using "what-if" scenarios to the fantasy aspects. Movies aren't able to capture what's said in the book in NEARLY enough detail. If all you've seen is the movie, then I can completely understand where you're coming from.

I saw the movie first and had a similar reaction "Meh, decent, but kind of gay". After the response from my girlfriend, though, I decided to give the movie a second chance and just let myself get involved in the story and take away my prejudice. I enjoyed the next run-through even more, but still had my doubts. She convinced me, though, that the books were even better and much more detailed (which was my biggest issue with Twilight... it seemed too distracting and unrealistic that Bella wasn't bothered enough by the vampires). She brought the books over for me to read and she was right. After reading all of the internal thoughts and seeing the scenes that were left out of the movie, I sincerely enjoyed the Twilight Saga. It even helped me enjoy the movie even more because I was able to fill in the missing blanks (motivations for certain actions) that you couldn't see in the film.

That's just my opinion, though. My reading level isn't up to enjoying the "higher levels of fiction" yet. My bookshelf is full of poker books (strategy and autobiographies), Dan Brown novels, and something from Heinlein. So flame away, but if anyone is looking forward to the sequel at least the thread is here.

Mercury69

Wednesday, June 3rd, 2009, 12:40 PM

It's one way to strike up a conversation with a 16 year old girl.

speedz99

Thursday, June 4th, 2009, 7:19 AM

QUOTE (solderz @ Wednesday, June 3rd, 2009, 11:15 AM)

Stephanie Meyers is one of the worst authors ever. And that's saying something. She is marketing to 12 year old's.

She's not "marketing" to 12 year olds. She writes the books for 12 year olds (and older audiences too, but that's beside the point). The facts that she writes for 12 year olds, you are not a 12 year old, and 12 year olds LOVE her books are good indicaters of the fact that you're wrong about her being one of the worst authors ever. It's like the random pompous wannabe critic here and there that claims JK Rawlings is a terrible writer. It's hard to accept, but in both cases they are very good at writing in a style that their audience really enjoys, which is much more important than writing technically perfect prose in the classic sense.

No, I've never read the books. Or watched the movie. But that's because I'm a guy that's over 15 who can still claim full ownership of both of his original testicles. I'm just saying.

solderz

Thursday, June 4th, 2009, 7:43 AM

QUOTE (speedz99 @ Thursday, June 4th, 2009, 7:19 AM)

She's not "marketing" to 12 year olds. She writes the books for 12 year olds (and older audiences too, but that's beside the point). The facts that she writes for 12 year olds, you are not a 12 year old, and 12 year olds LOVE her books are good indicaters of the fact that you're wrong about her being one of the worst authors ever. It's like the random pompous wannabe critic here and there that claims JK Rawlings is a terrible writer. It's hard to accept, but in both cases they are very good at writing in a style that their audience really enjoys, which is much more important than writing technically perfect prose in the classic sense.

No, I've never read the books. Or watched the movie. But that's because I'm a guy that's over 15 who can still claim full ownership of both of his original testicles. I'm just saying.

Comparing Rowling to Meyers is insane. Rowling is a great author. Well constructed characters and stories. Meyers is awful with neither.

Here is some observations by Stephen King on both:

King, whose Stephen King Goes to the Movies collection came out last week, doesn’t know how much of an influence he had on Meyer, but he does know that Rowling read his stuff when she was younger. "I think that has some kind of formative influence the same way reading Richard Matheson had an influence on me," King explains. "People always say to me, 'Well, what about H.P. Lovecraft?' And the thing was, you read Lovecraft when you were a kid but I never felt that he was speaking my language. It was chillier than my heart was, and when Matheson started to write about ordinary people and stuff, that was something that I wanted to do. I said, 'This is the way to do it. He’s showing the way.' I think that I serve that purpose for some writers, and that’s a good thing. Both Rowling and Meyer, they’re speaking directly to young people. ... The real difference is that Jo Rowling is a terrific writer and Stephenie Meyer can’t write worth a darn. She’s not very good."

But then King recalls that when his mom was alive, she read all the Erle Stanley Gardner books, the Perry Mason mysteries, obsessively when he was growing up. "He was a terrible writer, too, but he was very successful," King says. "Somebody who’s a terrific writer who’s been very, very successful is Jodi Picoult. You’ve got Dean Koontz, who can write like hell. And then sometimes he’s just awful. It varies. James Patterson is a terrible writer but he’s very very successful. People are attracted by the stories, by the pace and in the case of Stephenie Meyer, it’s very clear that she’s writing to a whole generation of girls and opening up kind of a safe joining of love and sex in those books. It’s exciting and it’s thrilling and it's not particularly threatening because they’re not overtly sexual. A lot of the physical side of it is conveyed in things like the vampire will touch her forearm or run a hand over skin, and she just flushes all hot and cold. And for girls, that’s a shorthand for all the feelings that they’re not ready to deal with yet."

keith crime

Thursday, June 4th, 2009, 8:19 AM

I've read plenty of places where people say the prose of Rowling is horrible - i've never read any of it, but I'm amazed by her and Meyer's ability to get kids to read these long books

it doesn't matter what kids start to read - as long as they do read they'll find what thrills and excites them eventually

Piddle Duck

Thursday, June 4th, 2009, 9:01 AM

My wife just got laid off, her last day was Monday so she has free time on her hands and decided to live blog her viewing of this movie. She never read the books but was bored and wanted something fun to do. I am glad I still have a job as it sounds like I would have hated this movie....

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Wednesday, June 03, 2009
Liveblogging "Twilight"
Alright, here we go, without preamble or ado: I'm watching "Twilight" and because I have way too much time on my hand, I'm liveblogging it too. So beware, spoilers ahoy!

Did I mention spoilers? Have you averted your eyes if need be? Good then, let's carry on:

4:48 p.m. - Okay, first off, I'm freaked out by deer danger. Poor little thing, running through the forest. This is the kind of thing that made Bambi an orphan!

I like that the main character's dad has a porn 'stache and is a cop. I'm intrigued.

4:52 p.m. - Hey, she got the "Sanford and Son" truck! Sweet.

5:05 p.m. - Sorry, got a phone call. So, about that Belle. Who the hell makes friends this fast?

5:07 p.m. - Vampire sighting...I think. Who knew the undead were all Ralph Lauren models? Also, aren't your bleach expenses going to be super-high if you're a blood sucker and you wear white?

5:10 p.m. - Loving the owl wings over Edward's shoulders. It's like he's an angel or something!

5:15 p.m. - I've decided I like this Kristen Stewart girl. She's like an emo-hybrid of Alexis Bledel and Mary Louise Parker.

Huh, Robert Pattinson becomes a lot more attractive once he starts actually talking.

Uh oh, Bella doesn't like cold, wet things. This could be a deal breaker for Edward!

5:20 p.m. - Holy shit, Edward's Superman! Runaway van? Yeah, he tamed that four-wheel bitch!

5:25 p.m. - I'm a little slow on the uptake, but aren't vampires supposed to get all toasty in daylight? What kind of sunblock does it take to prevent undead immolation?

5:32 p.m. - I should point out here that I've never read any of the "Twilight" books. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Jacob is a werewolf -- a hirsute hottie, if you will.

Okay, now the vampires are dressed like David Bowie circa 1973. With just a hint of Abba glam for seasoning...

5:37 p.m. -- Ooh, Bella just went to the bookstore version of The Magic Box. Man, this movie's making me want to watch "Buffy" all over again.

Oh no, bad townies! I sense a vampire salvation coming soon. OH YEAH, bad-ass Volvo driven by bad-ass vampire!! Grr.

5:42 p.m. - Wow, I think I just spotted Bobby Lee from MAD TV in the Bella/Edward hubba hubba restaurant scene.

5:47 p.m. - Really? She really has to Google "the cold one" to figure out this dude might be a vampire. Aaaand then she leads him into a cold, dark, remote forest to confront him about it. I'd seriously be wearing a steel neck brace before having that conversation.

5:51 p.m. - All that happens in sunlight is that he sparkles? Really? It would be awesome if his nipples were bedazzled.

Aand we discover Bella likes the bad boys. "You're like my own personal brand of heroin." Okay then.

5:56 p.m. - Just like a boy, always wanting a girl's "blood," if that's what the kids are callin' it these days.

6:03 p.m. - Okay, I like all the vampires watching the cooking channel and learning how to cook.

6:11 p.m. - "You better hold on tight, spider-monkey...while we re-enact (or some would say steal blatantly from) the 'Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon' bamboo-tree scene." Stop stealing styles, director-woman!!

6:17 p.m. - I'm saying it right here: as much as this movie is border-line aggravating me, the sight of vampires playing baseball while "Supermassive Blackhole" plays on the soundtrack is equal parts ridiculous and hugely awesome.

6:20 p.m. - Sweet. Supermodel vampire gang bang dance-off rumble tussle time. Wait, now they're just talking. No fair! Fight! Fight!

You know why vampires never sleep? Too much time spent planning their s-t-y-l-e.

6:32 p.m. - Bad blonde vampire, being naughty and looking like a homely Brad Pitt. Don't eat the mom! That's as un-American as apple pie. Wait, that's not right.

6:36 p.m. - C'mon, Bella, you're going to go fight with a vampire and you bring...pepper spray? No garlic? Wooden stake maybe? Did this girl never watch "Buffy?"

6:37 p.m. - Okay, then, have I mentioned I hate Comcast? They seriously just cut my OnDemand feed and I can't get it back. I now have no idea how this movie ends and I think I just got screwed out of $4.99. Sorry about this. How anticlimactic. And did I mention I hate Comcast? Well, thanks for reading this far.

I'm just going to pretend that the movie ends with Edward saving Bella, looking pouty and heroic and setting the stage for an ass-kicking sequel. Am I right?

http://theparkbencher.blogspot.com/

Jadaki

Thursday, June 4th, 2009, 9:22 AM

QUOTE (Piddle Duck @ Thursday, June 4th, 2009, 12:01 PM)

My wife just got laid off, her last day was Monday so she has free time on her hands and decided to live blog her viewing of this movie. She never read the books but was bored and wanted something fun to do. I am glad I still have a job as it sounds like I would have hated this movie....

http://theparkbencher.blogspot.com/

This line made me

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It would be awesome if his nipples were bedazzled.

dna4ever

Tuesday, September 8th, 2009, 7:57 AM

was flipping through the TV this weekend and ended up watching Panic Room on TBS I think. Jodi Foster's daughter in the movie was looking sooooo damn familiar, but I couldn't put my finger on it. After a quick IMDB search, I realized it was Kristen Stewart. TMYK

SuperJon

Tuesday, September 8th, 2009, 7:35 PM

QUOTE (jmkiser @ Wednesday, June 3rd, 2009, 4:33 PM)

I saw the movie first and had a similar reaction "Meh, decent, but kind of gay". After the response from my girlfriend

What's his name?

Haha, burn.

But seriously, after constantly hearing a lot of people (mostly women) talk about the movie/books (mostly about Edward), I decided I had to watch the movie.

It was okay.