AimHigher
Thursday, April 30th, 2009, 5:09 PM
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) -
Poker-Stars Converter Tool from
FlopTurnRiver.comButton ($11.65)
Hero (SB) ($11.85)
BB ($8.95)
UTG ($19.80)
MP ($8.80)
Preflop: Hero is SB with 6

, 6
1 fold, MP calls $0.10,
Button bets $0.40, Hero calls $0.35, BB calls $0.30, MP calls $0.30
Flop: ($1.60) 4

, 6

, 3
(4 players)Hero checks, BB checks, MP checks, Button checks
Turn: ($1.60) A
(4 players)Hero bets $1,
BB raises to $2,
2 folds, Hero calls $1
River: ($5.60) 2
(2 players)Hero checks,
BB bets $1.80, Hero?
MP was 28/7/1.4/92.
BTN was 16/10/1.75/59.
BB was 70/6/2.7/65.
CobaltBlue
Thursday, April 30th, 2009, 5:22 PM
I think donking the flop might be a decent option. On the turn, I'm okay with our bet/call, though I prefer betting a bit more. I gotta call this river.
Nashtak
Thursday, April 30th, 2009, 6:40 PM
Preflop; I don't know if i would call with 6s:
1. Unless you hit your set, you probably don't know where you stands.
2. With 6s, you will rarely get a flop of undercards.
3. Your position is terrible after the flop.
4. You may already be behind preflop.
Considering you entered the pot to trap him if you hit your set (and he hopefully hit a pair or a board of undercard if he has an overpair) you would need to win a pot of 8 x 0,35 to make this call worthy. The BB and MP both called so that's good for you (but you couldn't be sure they would call). Obviously that's without considering the other times you might take down the pot anyway but with 6s, you will rarely get a flop that is not dangerous so i wouldn't invest money in the first place.
Flop; I would bet between 0,75 and 1 depending on how loose those players are. There are 4 players in the hand with you, you might as well bet and get money into the pot. Someone may be drawing to a flush so make him pay for it.
Turn/River; I call it down. The flush is scary but he we got a set and he might have an Ace.
trystero
Thursday, April 30th, 2009, 7:07 PM
Debating pf is pointless
It's a std call unless villain's a competent LAG. If he's anything else, like the only type of LAG you'll find at 10nl (the terriLAG), or he's a "TAG," then it's a call. Given his stats, w/ a 10pfr he looks pretty tight, so we can expect to profit from the set v. overpair / TPTK scenario. Besides we can be like 90% sure that MP is going to call the raise, and BB, whose VPIP is 70 is DEFINITEly calling.
Flop bet is sexy - button's not going to c/bet, and this will check thru as everyone expects him to. If button does actually have an overpair then he'll call/raise
Solar
Thursday, April 30th, 2009, 9:15 PM
Yeah, totally donking this flop. Donking is rarely right, but this is a good spot to. Gets value out of the loose bad players and saves us from this situation when the button checks back.
Oh and as played I call
El Guapo
Thursday, April 30th, 2009, 9:21 PM
You really need to work on your thread titling skills. I thought you were setting odd's on getting laid. I can say I am more than disappointed.
Solar
Thursday, April 30th, 2009, 9:23 PM
QUOTE (El Guapo @ Friday, May 1st, 2009, 5:21 PM)

You really need to work on your thread titling skills. I thought you were setting odd's on getting laid. I can say I am more than disappointed.
LOL
I saw the "last reply El Guapo" and thought, wtf is going on. I see how you were confused.
El Guapo
Thursday, April 30th, 2009, 9:35 PM
QUOTE (Solar @ Thursday, April 30th, 2009, 10:23 PM)

LOL
I saw the "last reply El Guapo" and thought, wtf is going on. I see how you were confused.
Might I ask why you were confused that I had the last reply?
AimHigher
Thursday, April 30th, 2009, 9:46 PM
QUOTE (El Guapo @ Friday, May 1st, 2009, 6:21 AM)

You really need to work on your thread titling skills. I thought you were setting odd's on getting laid. I can say I am more than disappointed.
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Solar
Thursday, April 30th, 2009, 11:40 PM
QUOTE (El Guapo @ Friday, May 1st, 2009, 5:35 PM)

Might I ask why you were confused that I had the last reply?
I just don't think I've ever seen you post in a strat thread before, or at least, a nlhe cash game one.
SCS
Friday, May 1st, 2009, 4:25 AM
Preflop is standard.
Flop is a good spot to donk bet. Preflop raiser will often check through with a lot of his hands on this flop in a multiway pot. Plus if pfr does have a strong hand, you can get value from the 2 other players, wheras if you went for a c/r on the flop you shut them out.
As played, bet turn bigger and shove over a raise.
mtdesmoines
Friday, May 1st, 2009, 7:08 AM
QUOTE (AimHigher @ Thursday, April 30th, 2009, 6:09 PM)

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) -
Poker-Stars Converter Tool from
FlopTurnRiver.comButton ($11.65)
Hero (SB) ($11.85)
BB ($8.95)
UTG ($19.80)
MP ($8.80)
Preflop: Hero is SB with 6

, 6
1 fold, MP calls $0.10,
Button bets $0.40, Hero calls $0.35, BB calls $0.30, MP calls $0.30
Flop: ($1.60) 4

, 6

, 3
(4 players)Hero checks, BB checks, MP checks, Button checks
Turn: ($1.60) A
(4 players)Hero bets $1,
BB raises to $2,
2 folds, Hero calls $1
River: ($5.60) 2
(2 players)Hero checks,
BB bets $1.80, Hero?
MP was 28/7/1.4/92.
BTN was 16/10/1.75/59.
BB was 70/6/2.7/65.
PF is fine.
Is a flop CR just too obv?
Is it any more obv than a donk bet?
The turn is a mess, but it actually may make the hand more profitable for us because an A might give us value now.
The river we have to pay off.
RISEorFall
Friday, May 1st, 2009, 1:08 PM
can we raise the river? that bet looks scared of a straight/flush. this bet looks more like AK/AQ or 2 pair (or maybe lower set) than a flush.
his stats suggest he's fairly LAG, and could have had pair and diamond or 22/44
mtdesmoines
Friday, May 1st, 2009, 1:55 PM
QUOTE (RISEorFall @ Friday, May 1st, 2009, 2:08 PM)

can we raise the river? that bet looks scared of a straight/flush. this bet looks more like AK/AQ or 2 pair (or maybe lower set) than a flush.
his stats suggest he's fairly LAG, and could have had pair and diamond or 22/44
if he's scared, he's not calling with anything we beat.
was going to mention it looks like a blocker bet for a random A
NoBBiR
Friday, May 1st, 2009, 2:45 PM
I completely agree about thread titling.
I honestly misread the title for something dirty and reread it and still came away with something unsavory.
RISEorFall
Friday, May 1st, 2009, 2:56 PM
QUOTE (mtdesmoines @ Friday, May 1st, 2009, 1:55 PM)

if he's scared, he's not calling with anything we beat.
was going to mention it looks like a blocker bet for a random A
not if we make a big raise,
but if we make a smaller, like 2-2.5x raise he'd have a hard time folding big Aces and two pairs.
we'd also have to fold to 3bets, tho.
BaseJester
Friday, May 1st, 2009, 4:41 PM
QUOTE (RISEorFall @ Friday, May 1st, 2009, 5:08 PM)

can we raise the river?
If we hate money, then yes.
Nothing we beat can call.
RISEorFall
Saturday, May 2nd, 2009, 10:33 AM
QUOTE (BaseJester @ Friday, May 1st, 2009, 4:41 PM)

If we hate money, then yes.
Nothing we beat can call.
tell me how AK or better folds to a smallish raise on the river.
if we're raising 3-4x then sure, i agree.
but a 2-2.5x raise would make it pretty tough for decent 2nd best hands to fold, i think.
gooch
Saturday, May 2nd, 2009, 10:42 AM
i don't understand the check on the flop
i would make the river call just for information alone but with the possibilty of having the best hand for sure I make it
BaseJester
Sunday, May 3rd, 2009, 4:04 AM
QUOTE (RISEorFall @ Saturday, May 2nd, 2009, 2:33 PM)

tell me how AK or better folds to a smallish raise on the river.
He could think to himself, "Self, you were just check-raised on the river. One pair is not good."
But mostly, he doesn't show up here with a hand such that 666 > Villain's hand > TPTK very often at all, imho.
A read would help clarify this villain, but I wouldn't flat call a button raise with AK, check the flop with a set, min raise two pair on the turn, or bet the river with one pair.
It helps a lot to know if he's calling preflop with Ax suited, which could make him a two-pair hand that he might like to bet for value on the river.
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