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Randy Reed
Thought I'd post a few from last's night loose limit game. One of those nights for me. Any suggestions?

First is BB draw that doesn't get there.

PokerStars 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (8 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with [6c], [Ks].
4 folds, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (3 SB) [5c], [4c], [2h] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, CO bets, SB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (2.50 BB) [Jc] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero calls.

River: (4.50 BB) [8h] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks.

Final Pot: 4.50 BB

Second hand is one of a string of big pairs that et cracked.

PokerStars 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (8 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG with [Ac], [Ah].
Hero raises, BB calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) [6c], [Td], [7h] (3 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.25 BB) [5d] (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.

River: (8.25 BB) [Js] (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.25 BB

Results in white below:
Hero has Ac Ah (one pair, aces).
BB has 6h 6s (three of a kind, sixes).
Outcome: BB wins 10.25 BB.


How about trips on the flop on a non threatening board?

PokerStars 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with [Qh], [Qc].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, Hero raises, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (12 SB) [6c], [3d], [Qd] (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, CO calls, SB folds, BB calls, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (8 BB) [Kc] (4 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, CO folds, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

River: (11 BB) [7h] (3 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 bets $1 (All-In), BB folds.

Final Pot: 14 BB

Results in white below:
UTG+1 has 5h 4h (straight, seven high).
Hero has Qh Qc (three of a kind, queens).
Outcome: UTG+1 wins 13 BB. Hero wins 1 BB.


Like I said, one of those nights. Any suggestions?
econ_tim
Hand 1: On the flop you've got a gutshot plus backdoor flush plus over card, but the pot is very small. I think you should raise or fold here. Of course you have to call the turn, and I think checking the river is fine.

Hand 2: I would cap the flop and raise the turn, and maybe then slow down.

Hand 3: Looks good.
BeanGW
QUOTE (econ_tim)
Hand 1: On the flop you've got a gutshot plus backdoor flush plus over card, but the pot is very small.  I think you should raise or fold here.  Of course you have to call the turn, and I think checking the river is fine.

Hand 2: I would cap the flop and raise the turn, and maybe then slow down.

Hand 3: Looks good.


Hand 1: I'm with Tim... I'd just fold. The overcard could be no good anyway. Not worth it for the small pot.

Hand 2: I'd play exactly as you did. The BB betting into a UTG raiser usually puts me on notice. A three-bet from the BB indicates watch out. I'd just call him down after that. A couple of different straights are out there, he could have easily hit two pair... and of course the potential for a set.

Hand 3: Agreed. NH, tough beat.
Royal_Tour
Can you play higher limits?? .. but hand 3 was just bad luck., nothing you can do.
cdddc75
QUOTE (Royal_Tour)
Can you play higher limits?? .. but hand 3 was just bad luck., nothing you can do.



Moving up in limits is always a solution to bad beats.






(massive sw)
Randy Reed
I really felt I should have bet the turn on hand #1, but since he was leading and the pot was small, I decided to check call and plan on check/raise on the river if I hit, (or just bet out on the flush).

Yeah, when he 3 bet my riase on hand 2, I thought I was sunk, but figured I had to see it through.

#3, yeah, not much I can do. What's bad is I had about 3 more just like it. JJ tripped on flop twice and didn't hold up, etc..

Like I said, one of those nights. I can play higher limits, but I cashed out some winnings lately and decided to build it back up through the ranks. Rough first night, I must have said, "nh" 100 times, lol. Oh well, I'll get it back tonight.
Royal_Tour
QUOTE (cdddc75)
QUOTE (Royal_Tour)
Can you play higher limits?? .. but hand 3 was just bad luck., nothing you can do.



Moving up in limits is always a solution to bad beats.






(massive sw)


You would be surprised
cdddc75
Bad beats hurt twice as much at the next higher level.



Moving up to avoid bad beats is a horrible suggestion. Bad beats are a part of poker, and you need to learn how to handle them before you move up.


Why is this thread in Strategy anyway?
Royal_Tour
QUOTE (cdddc75)
Bad beats hurt twice as much at the next higher level.



Moving up to avoid bad beats is a horrible suggestion.  Bad beats are a part of poker, and you need to learn how to handle them before you move up.


Why is this thread in Strategy anyway?


It was a suggestion to Randy, since i've spoken with him before, I'm pretty sure he is used to playing higher limits

that is why i suggested it to him as an individual. Just wondering why he is playing the .5 /1.00 tables.

But i would not recommend it to anyone simply because they suffered a few bad beats. Thats part of the game
Randy Reed
I guess this does seem like a bad beat rant, but it wasn't intended to be. I was really posting a few for suggestions since it was a rough night. I grabbed the first three I came too. Some of the other hands probably would have been better for analysis.
amarillotg
i fold the first hand. no point in chasing a small pot.

the other 2 hands are fine.
TheIceman05
I have no idea what you were doing in the pot on the first hand. The pot is tiny, you've got a 4 out gutshot draw, and a draw at the 9th best flush...

And you were going to check-raise if your flush got there? Even thought he would have checked behind you unless he had you slaughtered?

Sorry, but you can't be in that pot. You're just spewing chips.
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