Your religion is a culturally solidified superstition.

Your whole belief system is based on a childlike belief in a Santa Claus.

Your ability to think critically is either non existent or flawed.

Your parents failed you.

what, no takers? oh how the mighty have fallen.

A human being is part of the whole called by us universe, a part limited in time and space. We experience ourselves, our thoughts and feelings as something separate from the rest. A kind of optical delusion of consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to us. Our task must be to free ourselves from the prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty. The true value of a human being is determined by the measure and the sense in which they have obtained liberation from the self. We shall require a substantially new manner of thinking if humanity is to survive. (Albert Einstein, 1954)

I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it. (Albert Einstein, 1954)

I cannot conceive of a God who rewards and punishes his creatures, or has a will of the kind that we experience in ourselves. Neither can I nor would I want to conceive of an individual that survives his physical death; let feeble souls, from fear or absurd egoism, cherish such thoughts. I am satisfied with the mystery of the eternity of life and with the awareness and a glimpse of the marvelous structure of the existing world, together with the devoted striving to comprehend a portion, be it ever so tiny, of the Reason that manifests itself in nature. (Albert Einstein, The World as I See It)

A man's ethical behaviour should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death.
(Albert Einstein, "Religion and Science", New York Times Magazine, 9 November 1930)

It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it. (Albert Einstein, 1954, The Human Side, edited by Helen Dukas and Banesh Hoffman, Princeton University Press)

Methinks its more of a case of who cares what he thinks.

it's a stone cold fact that more people around here care about what Spademan thinks than what you think.

Not evidently on this topic.

You seem to respond to everything I post.

Now I understand jewdonk better.

Just stating a fact. Flaming spademan is like flaming water or oxygen, it only makes you look like a fool. And claiming to know the mind of Jewdonk/Ripptyde is not something I'd suggest saying outloud again.

LOL @ the NWP reference.

yeah but can water get wet?

Does the pope shit in the woods?

what was the goal?

Yeah, well, I hope your babies look like monkeys.

Good to hear from you, I thought you may have finally been offed by the enemy. Then I thought "Good." Then I felt bad, but not for long. Everyone needs frienemies. That being said, no one really needs anyone who uses that word in any type of form whatsoever, so truthfully I don't really know where that leaves us.

Let's just go with it really is good to hear from you.

I think you need to take a step back and try to objectively analyze this thread before you coronate spadedonk.

He comes out of left field, totally unprovoked and insults 90% of the human race, including your hero Barack,

I usually respect alot of what you have to say, well maybe not alot, but enuf to attract my atterntion when you have posted something.

Iwould be willing to bet spadedonk is a loser in real life and needs this kinda attention to get off on.






P.S. Dont know what Im not supposed to say outloud again, but I KNOW THE MIND OF JEWDONK, MASTER OF NWP,AND LORD OF THE NET.

spademan just got back from Iraq, I'd be careful throwing around Life loser comments about him if I were you.

OOOOOOH CHILLS



Was he a journalist?

I'm not saying, like, he's going to kill you. I'm saying he just, you know, fought for your country, the thing you keep claiming is so almighty important to you. YO ucan show a little respect, instead of being a bathering idiotic hypocrite.

I have claimed nothing, in fact i am more agnostic then anything,

My point was his pointless and unprovoked attack on people of faith.






Ive been called alot, but a bathering idiot? never.

and if he did serve in iraq, I respect the hell out of that. Still doesnt give him license to attack whomever he feels like.

Now look at what ive gone and done,turned a lame post that noone was reading into a superthtread.



Save room for me edna, I feel the big one coming.

well, you should be called that more often. Because pretty much every post you make is blathering, uncritical idiocy that you cut and pasted off some forwarded email. You're also a huge, throbbing, aching, dripping cunt for pathetically trying to cause drama for me about this thread on NWP, as if I (or anyone else) gives 2 shits that I "outted" jewdonk in this thread.



So who issued your license to attack liberals or anyone else who's opinion's differ from yours? His "License" to express his opinion is called freedom of expression, and he has the right ot attack anyone he wants to, particularly people who's superstious beliefs end up shitting in his cereal. Admittedly, usually he does it in a funnier manner than this, but I can assure you this thread isn't "unprovoked"

fyp

good point.

Yikes, physical violence threats being tossed about on negraneus site.

Think Ill print this out and run it passed legal.


Cheers, for now.

it figures that a throbbing, aching cunt like you would do something like that.

Allright, this one has been discussed before, but this



is an interesting question worth looking into.

It seems to me that the closest place to qualify as "woods" to the Vatican City is Villa Ada, but I doubt that the Pope ever has the opportunity to shit there. He does however, spend summers at Castel Gandolfo, which is in a foresty area near Lake Albano, and the most likely location for papal woodland defecation. I imagine that during his meditative walks around the grounds he may from time to time be compelled to move his bowels, but I would think the privacy required for such an act would not often be afforded to him for security reasons.

Now, Pope John Paul II definitely shit in the woods. He was an avid outdoorsman in his younger days, before he became a palsied vegetable.

Do you mean before he became Pope? Because I'm not sure that qualifies.

after he become pope too, he would ski and sht. He was pope a long, long time. HE wasn't always palsied.

I read the OP and it made me remember this part in Fight Club:

Tyler Durden: Shut up! Our fathers were our models for God. If our fathers bailed, what does that tell you about God?
Narrator: No, no, I... don't...
Tyler Durden: Listen to me! You have to consider the possibility that God does not like you. He never wanted you. In all probability, he hates you. This is not the worst thing that can happen.
Narrator: It isn't?
Tyler Durden: We don't need him!

Forgot about this thread.

Nice.



More the case that people do not, understandably, enjoy flame wars with me, one should think.



Well played.



Awesomeness.



I laughed.



This did not come from left field, but from the bleachers. You should have seen it coming on the JumboTRON.

And your "loser in real life" line was the second laugh I got out of this thread.

I've made bold a few things you might want to look at in your text in relation to "blathering" and "idiot".


Again, adorably ignorant. I didn't quite laugh at this though, more of a giggle.



It wasn't an attack, really, so much as a statement of facts. And it's difficult to conceive that a group of cults who claim you and your family will spend eternity in hell, or blow up buildings in the name of Santa are innocent of any provocation.




STFU, Spademan.

For science can only ascertain what is, but not what should be, and outside of its domain value judgments of all kinds remain necessary. Religion, on the other hand, deals only with evaluations of human thought and action: it cannot justifiably speak of facts and relationships between facts. According to this interpretation the well-known conflicts between religion and science in the past must all be ascribed to a misapprehension of the situation which has been described.
For example, a conflict arises when a religious community insists on the absolute truthfulness of all statements recorded in the Bible. This means an intervention on the part of religion into the sphere of science; this is where the struggle of the Church against doctrines of Galileo and Darwin belongs. On the other hand, representatives of science have often made an attempt to arrive at fundamental judgments with respect to values and ends on the basis of scientific method, and in this way have set themselves in opposition to religion. These conflicts have all sprung from fatal errors. (Albert Einstein, 1941)

great, now i need a new account

i didnt know einstein was basically a buddhist. thats pretty cool.

ripptyde that name is very familiar. who is he? i think i used to play with him way back in the day unless im mistaken.

The religion of the future will be a cosmic religion. It should transcend personal God and avoid dogma and theology. Covering both the natural and the spiritual, it should be based on a religious sense arising from the experience of all things natural and spiritual as a meaningful unity. Buddhism answers this description. If there is any religion that could cope with modern scientific needs it would be Buddhism. (Albert Einstein)

the more i learn about that guy the more i like him.

Um... Ripptyde was a reg on FCP aroudn 2006ish, and got banned because he was in a some sort of flame war. He was very abrasive. He was also semi-famous on the "Flop Turn River" board, where his maniac tournament style was revolutionary at the time, as he was very aggressive and put a lot of pressure on. However, he was/is also a tilt monkey and an alcoholic, so his results aren't exactly stable. He had his PS account shut down in 2007 I think, and just got it reactivated this month. He's known as Jewdonk on NWP, and is insane, if hilarious. It's possible you played him years ago, but most likely you are aware of him from this board, as his short stint on FCP was infamous.

You're ideaology is a prime example of self-will run riot. You're cynical view of organized religion is obviously an attempt to make amends with some terrible experience you had as a child. Father Bryan probably doodled your little diddle and you blame God for allowing it to happen. I understand. However, coming into a religious chatroom and attempting to change the views of those inside is in vain. Did it make you feel better? Maybe you should reconsider your beliefs; especially if you are in the military. I hear the life expectancy for those in that profession is quite low. Don't be so ignorant to not let faith into your life.

And this mcgee guy, wow get off this guy's nutts.

sw?

I am positively in love with this sentence.

Your. Ideology.

You missed so completely on every point that correcting them isn't necessary: the absurdity of your assertions refute the assertions themselves.

So I figured I'd help you with your English a bit so that when you make specious, unfounded, stupid-ass, self-embarrassingly weak claims in the future, at least you'll come off as a dolt rather than an illiterate dolt.

You're parants have failed you on multiple levels.

i missed this.

HOW DID I MISS THIS?

LET ME COUNT THE WAYS;


I MISSED THIS LIKE A CRACK-WHORE MISSES THAT ONE SWEET HIT THAT TAKES AWAY OR AT LEAST DAMPENS THE VIBRANT AND EVER-PRESENT PAIN OF A MALTREATED YOUTH, SPENT IN TATTERED RAGS AND THE LASCIVIOUS CLUTCHES OF THOSE WHO SHOULD HAVE BEEN KNIGHTS INSTEAD OF DRAGONS -- A COLD-SWEAT NIGHTMARE THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN A FAIRY TALE OF A CHILDHOOD. (keep running - run on. or: run on, run on)

I MISSED THIS - suddenly i have chills, this room of mine, so plain and uncluttered, sterile and slightly harsh... this room is suddenly full of violence of thought... quaking madness, the throws of oft-forgot suffering. suffering of so many things so many places. people who haven't got a god damned thing. people who will never know what it is like to be praised or loved or envied or respected. people who ain't got shit. all they've done wrong is get born. born in the wrong life. somehow deserving of their poverty or sickness or debilitating mental faults. i guess i can yell some more and drown it out - LIKE A MONKEY MISSES HIS WEAPON OF CHOICE WHEN HE IS AT ONCE SCORNED AND CONSTIPATED.

I MISSED THIS LIKE I MISSED THIS LIKE I MISSED THIS LIKE I MISSED THIS LIKE I MISSED THIS LIKE I MISSED THIS MORNING'S PILL THAT CORRECTS MY TEXT-MANIFESTED STUTTERING PROBLEM. (haha, as if. i'm perfect, haven't you heard?)

I MISSED THIS LIKE I MISS A BUNCH OF SHIT WORTH MISSING. OR AT LEAST WORTH MISSING SOMETIMES. ONCE IN AWHILE YOU JUST GET TO MISSING SHIT. NO MATTER THAT YOU LEFT ATTACHMENT BEHIND. YOU LIVE IN THE WORLD, SOMETIMES YOU COME DOWN INTO THE WEEDS. IN THOSE WEEDS ARE THINGS THAT CREEP INTO YOUR MIND, SNATCHING YOUR ATTENTION FROM THE MOMENT. THINGS THAT CALL YOU BACK AND WHISPER ABOUT HOW GOOD THEY WERE. CUT THAT SHIT OUT, MYRIAD THINGS. I LET THAT "MOMENT OF MISSING" PASS RIGHT THOUGH. SO NOW I don't miss anything at all.

And so now, I don't "miss" the moment. I'm in it. Riding it.

Herp a durp, hurr. Derp.

Let people believe whatever they want to believe, no one has the right to insult people or try to make them change their faith, even if they do think a person's faith is stupid, idiotic, unrealistic...etc.

What about the guy whose religion dictates that he has the right to stone a woman to death for glancing at a man who is not her husband? I read elsewhere that an unassailable basis for irrationality is all well and good until the planes start hitting the buildings and i think that pretty well sums it up.

I agree with you regarding insults, but simply encouraging others to think critically about their most strongly held beliefs has the potential to be quite the public service. Religion is generally the sole area of discourse where people are systematically protected from having to articulate support for their positions.

She shouldn't break the rules.

Touche.

Upon reflection I recognize that this was a poor example. What about those religions that say you can't bang another dude?

what the fuck do you mean, he doesn't have the right to insult people? Who the fuck are you to determine what rights I or Spademan or anyone else has. My buddies died face down in the mud so that Spademan could insult religious people.

This






Nice speech, deserving of a