fleung22
Tuesday, April 14th, 2009, 12:09 AM
Voldemort
Tuesday, April 14th, 2009, 4:00 AM
QUOTE (fleung22 @ Tuesday, April 14th, 2009, 4:09 AM)

WOW......always amazing to me that people like this just "show up".
LadyGrey
Tuesday, April 14th, 2009, 7:33 AM
I saw it and did not think it was that great. For an ugly old woman, sure it's good compared to other ugly old women. Compared to professional and trained singers? Very mediocre. I don't get what the big deal is with her, except the whole backstory bullshit.
Theraflu
Tuesday, April 14th, 2009, 7:35 AM
CaneBrain
Tuesday, April 14th, 2009, 7:47 AM
QUOTE (LadyGrey @ Tuesday, April 14th, 2009, 8:33 AM)

I saw it and did not think it was that great. For an ugly old woman, sure it's good compared to other ugly old women. Compared to professional and trained singers? Very mediocre. I don't get what the big deal is with her, except the whole backstory bullshit.
didnt you like Meghan Joy on idol? Maybe your ear just prefers prettier women who cant sing.
hblask
Tuesday, April 14th, 2009, 7:51 AM
I saw this yesterday, it's amazing. Very touching. They should set her up with the opera guy from a few seasons ago:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxOytYLlhiQ
loogie
Tuesday, April 14th, 2009, 8:38 AM
QUOTE (LadyGrey @ Tuesday, April 14th, 2009, 11:33 AM)

I saw it and did not think it was that great. For an ugly old woman, sure it's good compared to other ugly old women. Compared to professional and trained singers? Very mediocre. I don't get what the big deal is with her, except the whole backstory bullshit.
Agreed. It's not news to me that some ugly people can sing. Hasn't anyone ever been to a karaoke bar?
brvheart
Tuesday, April 14th, 2009, 8:53 AM
Their judges are way better than the Idol judges. Can we borrow the other two?
hblask
Tuesday, April 14th, 2009, 9:55 AM
Hi,
I'm too cool to appreciate a heartwarming story that is popular. At this point I'd like to prove how cool I am by naysaying one of the best show biz stories in a couple of years. Please notice that I am cool.
Thank you for your time.
PS -- Did I mention that I am really cool, which makes me way better than the rest of you?
byaaatch
Tuesday, April 14th, 2009, 10:20 AM
this show seems all about finding not the prettiest face to look at but an amazing voice. Where on American Idol a cute face will always last way damn too long.
She and opera man should hook up
loogie
Tuesday, April 14th, 2009, 11:26 AM
Sorry. What I meant to say is that she's a rather good singer whose talent is amplified by the fact that she's so unattractive, old, and weird. It totally blew my mind that she could produce anything in this world of any beauty. As soon as she began to sing, I could suddenly see her as a real person--well, let's say a troll with a soul.
SBriand
Tuesday, April 14th, 2009, 11:39 AM
I don't get it. Usually I think LG is a little harsh but I think she is actually right on this one. If this woman was 15 years younger and attractive this post would not be here. But because she was old and unattractive that makes her being able to sing (which if you didn't already know, there are many people ugly, young, old, pretty who can sing in this world) more amazing? I don't get that. This is only a story because too many people think ugly people are useless. So yeah, I guess I will join the ranks of being cool and better than everyone else because I don't feel like being surprised an ugly woman can sing....
Edit: I agree she has talent in case that point was missed in my other ranting. I just don't see what makes her so special compared to the millions of other people in the world. Oh yeah, duh, she's ugly.
El Guapo
Tuesday, April 14th, 2009, 11:48 AM
I think the biggest thing here, is that the lady is singing in British and LadyGrey has astute ear for it since it is her home country. That is why she is confused by the American singers on American Idol, because they are singing in American, which to her untrained her might sound really good when it actually is not. I will hold judgment until I can get the song properly translated.
CindyLou
Tuesday, April 14th, 2009, 11:49 AM
Was there more to her backstory than being old and ugly?
I don't think American Idol is a good comparison since American Idol is interested in finding a pop star, which means being young and attractive is part of the package.
Also lol at that t-shirt's spelling of "negative."
I don't actually have anything to say about this particular clip since I didn't watch it.
SuitedAces21
Tuesday, April 14th, 2009, 11:53 AM
QUOTE (loogie @ Tuesday, April 14th, 2009, 2:26 PM)

as a real person--well, let's say a troll with a soul.
you gotta pay the troll toll to get into that boyssoul.
JubilantLankyLad
Tuesday, April 14th, 2009, 11:59 AM
does the 'paula' judge on this show sleep with the contestants like on American Idol? if so, i may have to try out.
Theraflu
Tuesday, April 14th, 2009, 12:13 PM
QUOTE (CindyLou @ Tuesday, April 14th, 2009, 12:49 PM)

Also lol at that t-shirt's spelling of "negative."
Ha. Didn't even notice.
I have nothing to add.
hblask
Tuesday, April 14th, 2009, 12:45 PM
Really? We need to explain why this story is popular to people?
It's because we all know people like this, or have personally felt like this. This woman has apparently had a hard life, is not particularly strong on social graces, and does not have the look that popular culture seems to crave (at the expense of talent). This is a woman who has a great talent, and had a dream that has been on hold, probably because there are a lot of dickheads in the world. She has probably been underestimated at every step of her life, but kept the dream somewhere inside and remained cheerful and optimistic. And here, she risks her pride and dignity, to take a shot at showing the world her talent, and blows everyone away.
You have to be pretty damn cynical about the world to not be touched by this. And I should know, because I'm about the most cynical person I know, and even I couldn't pretend that this is not a great, heart-warming story.
And anyone who wants to pick at a few technical vocal errors at this point is just too pathetic to continue living. How angry do you have to be at life and the world? The woman has a natural talent that the world is lucky to have discovered, and hopefully will now get the coaching and exposure to make the most of it.
SBriand
Tuesday, April 14th, 2009, 12:56 PM
I don't deny that it isn't a feel good story. But that doesn't change the fact that the only reason it is a story is because people put people like her low on the totem pole. There are many attractive people who have had a hard life and have dreams but they are scared to take that first step.
I don't know how to make my point more clear than I guess this...
The only reason people care is because people think ugly, out of the ordinary people have nothing to offer. If people DIDN'T think that way then this would be a non-issue. Would a post be made if a 22 year old blond big tittied bombshell came on stage and sang well? No. Well maybe but for the reason of her looks. Maybe that blonde bombshell had a hard life and was shy and even though hot, she had a bad self esteem. Would she get the same attention? Maybe but again not for the same reasons as an old odd dog of a woman.
So for me, it doesn't surprise me that an ugly woman can sing. I have seen many ugly women sing well. Good for her and good for them. I hope she succeeds but I guess I hope she succeeds for being a good singer, not an ugly good singer.
Edit: and it is obvious why it is popular. An old ugly odd woman got up on stage and did something well. That is why it is popular, not because of her story.
CindyLou
Tuesday, April 14th, 2009, 1:04 PM
I mean, negitave?
Come on!
DCJ001
Tuesday, April 14th, 2009, 1:05 PM
QUOTE (SBriand @ Tuesday, April 14th, 2009, 4:56 PM)

I don't deny that it isn't a feel good story. But that doesn't change the fact that the only reason it is a story is because people put people like her low on the totem pole. There are many attractive people who have had a hard life and have dreams but they are scared to take that first step.
I don't know how to make my point more clear than I guess this...
The only reason people care is because people think ugly, out of the ordinary people have nothing to offer. If people DIDN'T think that way then this would be a non-issue. Would a post be made if a 22 year old blond big tittied bombshell came on stage and sang well? No. Well maybe but for the reason of her looks. Maybe that blonde bombshell had a hard life and was shy and even though hot, she had a bad self esteem. Would she get the same attention? Maybe but again not for the same reasons as an old odd dog of a woman.
So for me, it doesn't surprise me that an ugly woman can sing. I have seen many ugly women sing well. Good for her and good for them. I hope she succeeds but I guess I hope she succeeds for being a good singer, not an ugly good singer.
Edit: and it is obvious why it is popular. An old ugly odd woman got up on stage and did something well. That is why it is popular, not because of her story.
Your problem is that you see her as ugly.
hblask
Tuesday, April 14th, 2009, 1:11 PM
QUOTE (SBriand @ Tuesday, April 14th, 2009, 2:56 PM)

Would a post be made if a 22 year old blond big tittied bombshell came on stage and sang well? No.
And that is exactly the point. People with a certain look can succeed despite their lack of talent -- see Brittany, Lindsey, Paris, etc, etc, etc.
We like underdogs. We like people who fight to overcome obstacles. So no, we don't care if some bimbo took the easy route and slept her way to the top. We do care if a person toiled in anonymity for decades and finally got a shot, and made the most of it. So do we like this "because she's ugly"? Well, partly, I guess, as part of the whole scenario. But it's also because of her spirit, and the fact that without a show like this nobody would've ever heard of her, and because if someone can overcome her odds then it gives us faith that maybe the world can work out in the end. It reminds us of the good side of the human race.
It's OK to let down our defenses and just enjoy that side of life sometimes. Really, it is. You'll be fine. It won't hurt too much. No need to play the heartless cynic all the time. Absorb it, smile, be happy for her.
SuitedAces21
Tuesday, April 14th, 2009, 1:22 PM
QUOTE (DCJ001 @ Tuesday, April 14th, 2009, 4:05 PM)

Your problem is that you see her as ugly.
he doesnt see her as ugly, she is ugly. and thats
her problem.
SBriand
Tuesday, April 14th, 2009, 1:46 PM
QUOTE (hblask @ Tuesday, April 14th, 2009, 5:11 PM)

It's OK to let down our defenses and just enjoy that side of life sometimes. Really, it is. You'll be fine. It won't hurt too much. No need to play the heartless cynic all the time. Absorb it, smile, be happy for her.
How am I heartless? I wasn't one of the people in the audience making faces before she sang one note. They are the cynical ones. Those are the people that ANNOY me. I am happy for her and I already stated that I hope she succeeds. My ISSUE is that I think people who prejudged her are what is wrong. And the reason this is popular is because people saw an ugly woman and expected NOTHING from her and that WAS NOT FAIR and the only reason most people are amazed by this is because they immediately thought she would have no talent based on her outward appearance. Somewhere you are missing my point or you have already decided to judge me as a negitive nancy and you are not actually looking for my point.
Again, sorry I was not blown away by some "ugly" woman signing. I was already aware that I should not judge a book by it's cover. What an as
shole i am AMIRITE!
DCJ001
Tuesday, April 14th, 2009, 1:48 PM
QUOTE (SuitedAces21 @ Tuesday, April 14th, 2009, 5:22 PM)

he doesnt see her as ugly, she is ugly. and thats her problem.
It's your problem too. Maybe you'll start to understand when you're no longer a teenager.
Then again, maybe you won't understand.
SBriand
Tuesday, April 14th, 2009, 1:51 PM
QUOTE (DCJ001 @ Tuesday, April 14th, 2009, 5:48 PM)

It's your problem too. Maybe you'll start to understand when you're no longer a teenager.
Then again, maybe you won't understand.
When you grow up maybe you will recognize jokes on the internet. Or maybe not.
dolfan
Tuesday, April 14th, 2009, 2:08 PM
QUOTE (CindyLou @ Tuesday, April 14th, 2009, 1:49 PM)

Was there more to her backstory than being old and ugly?
Since I barely watched the clip and don't know her "story" either, this cracked me up.
hblask
Tuesday, April 14th, 2009, 2:17 PM
QUOTE (SBriand @ Tuesday, April 14th, 2009, 3:46 PM)

How am I heartless? I wasn't one of the people in the audience making faces before she sang one note. They are the cynical ones. Those are the people that ANNOY me. I am happy for her and I already stated that I hope she succeeds. My ISSUE is that I think people who prejudged her are what is wrong. And the reason this is popular is because people saw an ugly woman and expected NOTHING from her and that WAS NOT FAIR and the only reason most people are amazed by this is because they immediately thought she would have no talent based on her outward appearance. Somewhere you are missing my point or you have already decided to judge me as a negitive nancy and you are not actually looking for my point.
Again, sorry I was not blown away by some "ugly" woman signing. I was already aware that I should not judge a book by it's cover. What an ******* i am AMIRITE!
OK, I understand your point better.... and I think you are right, in large part, it's because she defied expectations. Nobody had anything *personal* against her, it's just that she didn't give the signals we've learned of what a polished performer should look and act like, so it's nice to have those stereotypes shattered. And yes, her being unemployed and never married and socially awkward are all part of that. Also, age 48 is a long time to harbor a dream like that, to have it suddenly explode into reality. And that's another thing people are reacting too, regardless of her looks or charm -- that this shy lady suddenly got to live her secret dreams.
So I think if she had been a really good looking never-married socially-awkward 48 y/o, it still would've been a heart-warming story.
SBriand
Tuesday, April 14th, 2009, 2:24 PM
Now do you think it is possible that if she looked "normal" and sang that people would be that amazed by her performance? Would the judges have reacted the way they did or would she have just been another mediocre, yet talented singer?
I do think that because of her story and people's notions that they have placed her signing talent a bit higher than it would be if it came out of a different person. I agree she has talent, I can't sing like that, but...
LG's Touch
Tuesday, April 14th, 2009, 2:25 PM
I am not going to "be happy for" this woman for three reasons
1. There were almost definitely more talented people in that competition who will be eliminated before her because they don't have any uplifting back story
2. She is being exploited by the show to get viewers and has already given up her dignity by allowing herself to be portrayed as a crazy old cat lady virgin
3. She most likely will not get a career from this whether she wins or not. I know Paul Potts has done well for himself, but he is younger, and has settled for not being considered a real opera singer by the opera world. If anything she will have one single or album that sells great, then the public will move on. She won't get work as a professional singer because she is not good enough, and I doubt she wants to go for a career as a chart singer anyway.
ajs510
Tuesday, April 14th, 2009, 2:47 PM
QUOTE (SBriand @ Tuesday, April 14th, 2009, 4:56 PM)

Would a post be made if a 22 year old blond big tittied bombshell came on stage and sang well? No. Well maybe but for the reason of her looks.
I was gonna say...you don't know us very well.
hank213
Tuesday, April 14th, 2009, 7:02 PM
QUOTE (LG's Touch @ Tuesday, April 14th, 2009, 4:25 PM)

I am not going to "be happy for" this woman for three reasons
1. There were almost definitely more talented people in that competition who will be eliminated before her because they don't have any uplifting back story
2. She is being exploited by the show to get viewers and has already given up her dignity by allowing herself to be portrayed as a crazy old cat lady virgin
3. She most likely will not get a career from this whether she wins or not. I know Paul Potts has done well for himself, but he is younger, and has settled for not being considered a real opera singer by the opera world. If anything she will have one single or album that sells great, then the public will move on. She won't get work as a professional singer because she is not good enough, and I doubt she wants to go for a career as a chart singer anyway.
By this rationale don't we as the viewing public have to quit enabling this show's exploitative nature? Furthermore, shouldn't we boycott
all "talent search" reality shows?
Please say yes. I can live with losing Hell's Kitchen to kill AI and any others.
Suited_Up
Wednesday, April 15th, 2009, 7:16 AM
WHAT UPLIFTING BACKSTORY???
She acted retarded for a minute or two before she sang. THAT IS NOT A BACKSTORY!!!
I'm with Piddle/Briand.
fleung22
Friday, April 17th, 2009, 4:31 AM
Britain’s Got Talent star Susan Boyle invited to Oprah Winfrey showFriday, 17 April , 2009, 15:54

It seems that media mogul Oprah Winfrey is determined to make Britain’s Got Talent’s unique find, Susan Boyle, an American star. Oprah has invited the ultra-talented lady to her show.
Boyle, 48, who left all dazed with her incredible performance on Britain's Got Talent, has already become a worldwide phenomenon with her performance being viewed more than 12 million times on YouTube.
She is said to be thrilled about appearing on the Oprah Winfrey show. “Wow! Put me down for it. I’m shaking!” The Sun quoted her as saying.
BGT judge Simon Cowell is of the opinion that Boyle’s appearance on the show will open a lot of doors for her in America.
“If she went on Oprah I think there’s every chance Susan will have the number one album in America,” Cowell said.
brvheart
Friday, April 17th, 2009, 7:03 AM
QUOTE (Suited_Up @ Wednesday, April 15th, 2009, 10:16 AM)

WHAT UPLIFTING BACKSTORY???
She acted retarded for a minute or two before she sang. THAT IS NOT A BACKSTORY!!!
I'm with Piddle/Briand.
She lives alone. Her mom died a few years ago. She has never been on a date. She got brain damaged at birth.
Also, for anyone that thinks she just has an 'average' voice... you're incorrect.
Listen to another song here:
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish...86908-21283564/
LadyGrey
Friday, April 17th, 2009, 7:25 AM
QUOTE (brvheart @ Friday, April 17th, 2009, 10:03 AM)

She lives alone. Her mom died a few years ago. She has never been on a date. She got brain damaged at birth.
Also, for anyone that thinks she just has an 'average' voice... you're incorrect.
Listen to another song here:
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish...86908-21283564/I've said it before, she's an okay singer. She is on-key and can hold notes steadily. There are thousands of people that can sing at the same level, it's the sort of singing that they teach kids at stage school. It's good enough for a minor stage role, but it's not good enough to compete with the major talent in the stage world. To say she is amazing is going way too far. The timbre of her voice when she isn't using her head-voice is very weak and almost childlike in tone.
The reason people are saying she is so extraordinary is because of what you said above: her story, her character. It's all very Dickensian and the general public fall for that garbage. It's undeniable that if she were an attractive young lady with no human interest story behind her, people would be saying her voice is good but not special. If you say you'd rather listen to her singing a blues song than someone like Diana Krall you are lying, because it is undeniable that her voice is just not that good. It is good for an amateur, but mediocre anywhere outside of a local stage production.
Balloon guy
Friday, April 17th, 2009, 7:40 AM
All I got out of this is that only ugly people in England have any talent
hblask
Friday, April 17th, 2009, 7:50 AM
QUOTE (LadyGrey @ Friday, April 17th, 2009, 9:25 AM)

I'm too cool for all of you. I may be the coolest person in the world.
FYP
LadyGrey
Friday, April 17th, 2009, 7:55 AM
QUOTE (hblask @ Friday, April 17th, 2009, 10:50 AM)

FYP
???
Really? That's the best you can come up with? Can't dispute what I'm saying so you pull a shitty, irrelevant insult out of your ass and post that? Good job.
hblask
Friday, April 17th, 2009, 8:55 AM
QUOTE (LadyGrey @ Friday, April 17th, 2009, 9:55 AM)

Really? That's the best you can come up with? Can't dispute what I'm saying so you pull a shitty, irrelevant insult out of your ass and post that? Good job.
I didn't think it was an insult to be cool.
Bitter much?
Suited_Up
Friday, April 17th, 2009, 11:09 AM
QUOTE (LadyGrey @ Friday, April 17th, 2009, 10:55 AM)

???
Really? That's the best you can come up with? Can't dispute what I'm saying so you pull a shitty, irrelevant insult out of your ass and post that? Good job.
If you were ugly and brain damaged, it would be so super precious!
LongLiveYorke
Friday, April 17th, 2009, 12:27 PM
QUOTE (Balloon guy @ Friday, April 17th, 2009, 11:40 AM)

All I got out of this is that only ugly people in England have any talent
There are non-ugly people in England?
( Just kidding, LG [ Wait, LG is from England, right? { I once had a professor who was very strict about the order and style with which one should use nested parenthesis. But I guess it's good to have a consistent system } ] )
James D
Friday, April 17th, 2009, 12:27 PM
QUOTE (Balloon guy @ Friday, April 17th, 2009, 4:40 PM)

All I got out of this is that only ugly people in England have any talent
I'd like to take this opportunity to say that I have no talent whatsoever.
edit - meh.. LLY just happened to post at the same time. Ruined it.
LongLiveYorke
Friday, April 17th, 2009, 12:29 PM
QUOTE (James D @ Friday, April 17th, 2009, 4:27 PM)

I'd like to take this opportunity to say that I have no talent whatsoever.
But your information doesn't contradict BG's statement. He says
IF you have talent in England THEN you are ugly. He didn't say
IF you are ugly THEN you have talent.(Actually, his statement could be misconstrued to say that the only people in the world who have talent are ugly people in England, but that's clearly not what he was saying [ Right? ] )
Mercury69
Friday, April 17th, 2009, 12:33 PM
Well, she is amazing, just like that fat opera guy, but now I think they need to change the name of the show:
Britain's Got The Ugliest Talent
Edit: Sorry for the reiterated joke but weighing in kind of late on this one...
colonel Feathers
Friday, April 17th, 2009, 12:57 PM
What has me baffled is how she has stayed uinder the radar?
She has been singing in her church for the last twenty years. without someone noticing.
I think I woulda called an agent to at least come listen.
speedz99
Friday, April 17th, 2009, 1:27 PM
QUOTE (LadyGrey @ Friday, April 17th, 2009, 8:55 AM)

???
Really? That's the best you can come up with? Can't dispute what I'm saying so you pull a shitty, irrelevant insult out of your ass and post that? Good job.
My lord you've been angry lately.
Theraflu
Friday, April 17th, 2009, 2:13 PM
QUOTE (speedz99 @ Friday, April 17th, 2009, 2:27 PM)

My lord you've been angry lately.
I think she took yesterday off, so I was glad to see her back in form today.
Balloon guy
Friday, April 17th, 2009, 3:58 PM
QUOTE (LongLiveYorke @ Friday, April 17th, 2009, 1:29 PM)

But your information doesn't contradict BG's statement. He says IF you have talent in England THEN you are ugly. He didn't say IF you are ugly THEN you have talent.
(Actually, his statement could be misconstrued to say that the only people in the world who have talent are ugly people in England, but that's clearly not what he was saying [ Right? ] )
well...Little Britain was pretty funny and those two blokes were a bit hard on the eyes.
But no, you can be attractive and be talented, just not in England.
Or it's former colonies
excluding the USA because we have David Hasselhoff to disprove any attempts to say otherwise.
Plus we technically chucked the yoke of oppression ourselves, which of course we all know cures the ugly/talent connections, unlike the rest of the colonies whch basically just got freedom through England's inability to keep the non-white man down.
LG's Touch
Friday, April 17th, 2009, 6:44 PM
QUOTE (speedz99 @ Friday, April 17th, 2009, 4:27 PM)

My lord you've been angry lately.
I'm no different than I've always been. For some reason you guys suddenly seem to take me seriously instead of letting me enjoy a good old fashioned sparring match!
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