hblask
Monday, April 27th, 2009, 6:27 AM
QUOTE (looshle @ Saturday, April 25th, 2009, 1:04 PM)

The two biggest things you need to be a good comedian are/is funny, original material and good delivery. I'm with Ron that I like him in movies though. He does have good delivery but has proven to use jokes that aren't his so I'm not going to go to one of his shows or watch one of his specials and "hope" that a joke I find funny is actually his.
He's a good performer, he will do good in comedies. I just think Dane Cook the comedian is a hack.
OK, good point.... although I do think he performs the jokes better than the original. So think of him as a cover artist.
It is an interesting issue. The consensus is that every comedian is influenced by others, as the professional comedy circuit is a relatively small circle. The question is when "influence" crosses into "stealing". Is using a similar premise stealing if the surrounding material and delivery is completely original? Can the first person who joked about air travel say all subsequent comedians were stealing from him?
I'm not saying Cooks use of other's material is fair, but the parts I've heard are on that line between "outright stealing" and "very strongly influenced." Some jokes are obviously identical, but he will expand the material and make it his own, into a bigger context. Really, that's his thing -- taking a very small incident, and turning it into and over-the-top rambling story.
And in the end, if the first guy gets so-so mileage out of the material, and the second guy hits a home run, which would you rather see?