PMJackson21
Thursday, April 16th, 2009, 5:35 PM
QUOTE (Good Tom Hunting @ Thursday, April 16th, 2009, 1:58 PM)

They both have great stuff, but walk far too many people - especially kershaw. They will be studs a few years down the line when they learn how to "pitch" and not just "throw". However, right now, they are not "amazing pitchers" as you say - just good pitchers with a lot of potential.
Lol, not against the Giants. 18 bbs and 72 ks on the year thus far for Giants hitters; that is some impressive discipline. The Nats have struck out once more, but have also drawn 15 more walks or so.
Your inclusion of Billingsley in that comment is off base and not supported by the numbers, let alone what the eye can see. Last year he had 4 less walks allowed then your golden boy Lincecum, in 25 or so less innings. Not really that big of a disparity. Control has not been a major issue for Billingsley for a while now, which anyone that has watched him pitch regularly could tell you. I think most people believe he is a stud right now, not a few years down the line. 16-10 w/ a 3.14 ERA and 200+ strikeouts is pretty good in a baseball era where few pitchers win 20 games anymore.
Kershaw however, does need to refine his control. He falls behind too many hitters, throws too many pitches to get outs, and limits his time in the game. Pretty much how Chad was when he came up as well. His stuff is obviously fantastic and it is easy to see why scouts/gms/baseball people are so high on him, but he is not quite there yet. As much as I enjoyed his performace last night, he won't have the luxury of facing minor league caliber hitters and guys past their prime every start. He fell behind 2-0 quite a bit and then was helped out by weak fly outs etc etc.
On a side note, the 'pitch/throw' comment reminded me of something Joe Morgan would say; thanks for the chuckle.

Stults is basically a AAAA pitcher (not quite good enough at MLB level), so tonight should be a fair matchup vs Zito and the Giants lineup. I actually have a feeling Zito pitches well tonight vs the Dodgers, but we shall see.