PokerStars 1/2 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with [Td], [Ts].
UTG calls, 2 folds, Hero calls, Button calls, MP1 calls.

Standard

Flop: (18.50 SB) [8d], [Ad], [4c] (4 players)
MP1 bets, MP2 calls, Hero calls, Button folds.

Implied odds, Ussually need 22-1 here to call, but it's close enough and the table's loose, Figuring im beat here though.

Turn: (10.75 BB) [2c] (3 players)
MP1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Wierd... But I bet it for information and didn't face a re-raise.

River: (13.75 BB) [Js] (3 players)
MP1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks.

Good Check Right?

Final Pot: 13.75 BB

I posted a hand yesterday, just trying to make sure what I think is "standard" really is, Lost my tail on the 1/2 PokerStars room the last 2 days after 2 good days, Making sure my play isn't slipping.

I'd bet the river to at least blow MP2's KK out of the hand.


Not sure what the hell MP1 has.

MP2 ain't foldin to one bet, I think the check is fine.

MP2 shouldn't fold to one bet, but he already limped/capped then called the rest of the way down.



Then again, I probably fold the flop since someone likely has an ace with a preflop cap.

nh

But we have odds to draw to a 2 outter.

I liked the check aswell.

Only if no one has AA. Even then, we still might have to dodge a diamond.

I'd rather raise that flop than call it. Raising the flop is better than betting the turn.

If we bet the turn, why do we check the river? Just wondering...

If someone has AA on this hand, they need to be stopped by Paul Phillips for being a Poker Dickhead. Lol, can't worry about AA in every capped pot

I don't think anyone has AA, but I had a donk call three cold on the button with the bullets just last night.

Just saying that the two outs might not be clean.

Without that marginal call, our hero doesn't burn a big bet on the turn.

looks goot. you did everything right

Is raising here for information so bad?

It's better than betting the turn for information. It's cheaper.

Allright, After these responses I think I played it fine.

I am not going to raise the flop, At this point I figure one for an Ace, so I'm not going to raise when I'm 90% im behind. It was capped pre-flop and bet on flop, I figure an ace is out there. I call on the 2 outter because the pots big enough.

I fold the turn unless it is checked to me, I prefer to keep them on the defense so I raise this, If I get re-raised I fold here, Raising the flop won't give me much information IMO because the pot that big, they're probobly going to call with a lot of hands. The raise on the turn, after I get 2 cold I figure I'm now ahead in the hand.

Checking the river, I can't handle a re-raise and a J might call me here w/ the pot as large as it is, so I checked it.

I ended up winning the pot against KQ and Q2... Was surprised to say the least about the Q2.

Thanks guys.

bah, its just chip spewage.. Raising "for information" is one of the dumbest reasons to raise, and trust me when I say that as I can usually find a dumb reason to raise

Thank goodness for UltraDonks.

I would be tempted to raise the flop here just to gain information and represent a strong ace.

It really seems like MP1 has KK or QQ and was making a continuation bet.

Your turn bet doesn't accomplish much in the eyes of a thinking opponent due to your flop action.

If your opponents are the type that will get into call-down mode, so be it. But I think a flop raise is in order here. You need to define the range of opponents hands, (possibly win the pot right there against weak-tighties with KK or QQ).

The only thing I don't like is the turn bet. KK-JJ will not go away.

River check seems fine.

Okay, so if I raise the flop and get re-raised what are my choices? the pot was barely good enough to call on the 2 outer, so when its re-raised what would I do?

Call and proceed (probably folding the turn).

The turn bet was begging to be check/raised by anybody with an actual hand.

Then you can fold.

Calling the flop is only going to encourage a hand like KK or QQ to continue firing to your weak resistance on the turn and/or river, giving you improper odds to continue. But if you raise, KK or QQ will shut down, maybe even fold.

Since PF was a cap, you get the benefit of greatly narrowing your hand reads of the opponents.

Calling the 3-bet makes sense only if villain is a total maniac.

I had a hand that was very similar to this earlier today.

UTG had raised, he was overaggro but solid, I had AQo and 3-bet. He capped. I called.

Flop came A24.

There is no sense for me to get aggressive, because if he has KK or QQ he will shut down and if he has AK he will fire back at me.

I check-called every street on a A2478 board. He had KK.

So you say raise the flop instead of guaranteeing that I see the turn? And by raising I run the risk of having to fold? I just don't see how that's correct.

Are the players as bad as Stars as they are at Party? I moved from nickels and dimes up to 1/2 on prima, then I started an account on Party. I swear, the average 1/2 player on party is worse than the average 25/50c player on prima.

Different mentalities, I guess.

I think there's a better than 1 in 20 chance that nobody has an ace. That should change your strategy.

It's also a big pot. I want to win it, not hang on and hope for a miracle on fourth street.

Furthermore, if I lose the hand, I gain advertising.

I dont think you could possibly justify that assumption.

Im impressed at how bad the microlimit players are on Stars. I just moved over there from Empire, since Empire only had .5/1 limit, and I wanted to practice at a smaller limit before moving back up to my actual bankroll limit.

PT says Im averaging 4.6BB/100 over my first 5500 hands at .05/.10. Come on over and try it out - unbelievable the number of peoplet that will call down to showdown with 23o, or a pair of 4s with a painted board.

Dev

I agree with the following:

Do not bet that flop.

Bet the turn.

Check the river.

:wink:

Preflop I think it was fine.

On the flop, I think that calling was the worst possible play. Button could easily raise, and you could be facing 1 or 2 more bets to see the turn. Plus, are you calling the turn if ANY card other than a ten comes? I would hope not.

In all likelihood I think 1 person has a low- or mid-ranged ace (thus didn't want to bet turn into a field he could easily be behind), another person has JJ/QQ/KK and doesn't think he's winning.

Also, what kind of information were you hoping to get on the turn? Would you have folded to a raise from any player? What chance did you think you had for taking down the pot there? How would you have reacted if someone called but checked river? Or what do you think was the most likely result if you checked? Would someone lead a blank river?

IMO at this point you need to either aknowledge defeat (short of a river T) and fold to any bet, or try a bluff, knowing that 98% of the time you don't have the best hand. I'm sure I'll be called weak/tight again but I personally don't see any other play than check/folding or bet/bet.