$25NL on Party - 5 handed table - blinds .10/.25...my 5th hand at the table so no read on anyone

I'm first to act and dealt QQ...

I raise to $2...

2nd to act calls

3rd to act raises to $10

Small blind and big blind folds...

I had $17 left in front of me...

What would you do?

That is tough cause you are facing a huge raise after you just represented a big hand by raising under the gun. In 25 NL at Party players can be pretty dumb about hands like AK and reraise big but if it were me I'd probably fold if I had no read on the player. It's too early in the game to take a big risk like that. You can't just call and fold later. That'd be the worst you can do. It's eitehr fold or reraise all in and if it was me I'd probably fold and wait to see how this player really plays. You could be folding to JJ but poker is about the overall war and not just one battle.

Those tables are filled with players who sit around waiting for AA or KK and then try to get all-in pre-flop with them. I would fold here. You've still got plenty to work with.

Your raise pre-flop was way too big IMO (8X BB - 4 to 6 is better). After getting re-raised, you either go all-in or fold (and I would be definately leaning towards the fold without having any info on an opponent). :wink:

yeah your raise of 8XBB is a little large. he might be making a play at you as it appears you could be over betting your hand. (sign of weakness imo). never the less, i think you have to fold this hand. its tough to lay down queens but......

I think you were right to fold, and it is troublesome because it is hard to lay down "big" hands. I think the others are correct, your initial bet was far too big and it made it look like an obvious steal attempt.

As much as I'd be sure he's going to show 72o to rub it in, I'm leaning towards a fold too. Then watch him, see what he does later on. This is a tough situation, but a fold is more in order until you have a read.

All,

Thanks for the critique...

i agree...My preflop raise was too big...

I also agree...calling here would've been horrible as I basically would've been committed to putting all my chips in (assuming no A on the flop)

Unfortunately for me, I figured he had something like AK or AQ and re-raised all-in (why I figured him for any hand after only playing 5 hands with him is silly)...

He thought about it for a moment then called...

Board was 3c, Jc, Js, 10d, 7h

He turns over KK

In hindsight, he had a stack of about $110 at the $25 NL table which should've clued me in that he was probably a solid player who would re-raise with something big (ie. the big stack)

In a tourney, I would've folded for all my chips but given that it's Party and I see people call all-ins with AK, AQ even mid pocket pairs...I just couldn't resist.

Thanks again for the input...that's the good thing about poker...you can always learn and there is always room for improvement :-)

see, if you had told us his stack before, then we definitely would've shouted fold. As lucky as some fish get, not likely for them to be more than quadruple their buy-in.

A micsoncpetion is fearing AK in a situation like this. Call it Everytime, You are a 52-48 Favorite If he's suited. and there's 12.75 in the pot. So you're WAY ahead long-term with this decision.

You've got to Raise it all-in here, Hope he doesn't have AA or KK take your chances and let it ride.

Agreed... Raising 8xBB is waaaaaaay too hefty of a raise. 4xBB should be sufficient. I know it sucks, but you've got to lay down your Queens here.

I'm re-raising all-in here. There's only two hands that are ahead of you here, and i just can't see it being +ev to fold QQ every time you face a big re-raise. A tourney situation might warrant a fold, IMO, but since it's a cash game, if you lose, you'll just buy back in.

Meh, I'm not so sure. AK would not make this kind of raise.

Before he posted results I figured villain for AA or KK.

AK would have called, raised a little extra, or pushed hero's raise, it seems.

Another thing to consider is how much villain has behind him.

A lot of the problems could have been solved by raising less PF

No one suggests the alternative against AK, which is simply to call the raise, and bet hard if no A or K hits on the flop. Isn't that a much safer decision than just pushing with 5 cards to come, especially since we can figure that he will call our push preflop, why don't we get more information before putting all our money in?

thats so retarted. you are a classic case of a clown overvaluing queens

how am I:

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You said yourself that pushing and folding are the only two viable options. Just because you choose to fold and i choose to push doesn't make me a clown. If anything, you're the clown for flaming someone because their opinion differs from yours. OP asked for opinions on how other people would play the hand. I gave mine, you gave yours. Don't be a douche, have a nice day. :-)

I think I might agree with a fold here but 90% of the players on these tables overvalue AK, Aq, Aetc. A lot of them might easily make this bet with AK. I only choose fold here because I dont really have a read and I can wait and pick a better spot.