Vote Pablo Sandoval into the All Star Game!


I believe voting ends 1pm tomorrow, so vote often
Ive already voted for him many times

I want to stab Charlie Manuel in the face. Did he really need to add a third outfielder from his team who is only batting ~.270?

$#@$ing homer douchebag

LOL..relax bro, step back from the ledge. It's just the all-star game, it's not life and death. You must be one of those guys that was voting like 100x/minute lol...maybe next year.

Wow, nice friggin no-hitter by some dude that nobody's ever heard of!

this is the best thing that could've happened to the Giants, now they might actually be able to dump Sanchez on some poor unsuspecting team who only saw last night's game.

I didn't realize Giants fans would get so upset about Matt Kemp not getting the nod...

No chance Manuel was picking Sandoval to replace an outfielder.

All my friends that are true Giants fans and I said the same thing after last night's game - trade him now when his value is at it's high point. You really don't want to get stuck with your own version of Oliver Perez.

If the Dodgers were 7 games out of first, I wouldn't use a term as optimistic as 'competing'; I would be whining about how awful they were. The Giants have had a great year, a little bit better than I thought they would, but the year is only half over. I'm a fan of the team with the best record in baseball, but I'm not going to make any final judgments on the Dodgers until the season comes to a close. Doing anything else is just setting yourself up for disappointment; I wouldn't declare myself a winner of a pot in poker after only the flop was dealt...If the Giants faded and finished at or near .500, missed the playoffs, etc, would Giants fans really be that surprised?

That being said, I want nothing to do with the Giants and their pitching in the playoffs, and will live in fear of playing them in the NLCS.

I was thinking about this scenario last night. I would love it if the Giants and Dodgers played in the NLCS.

But getting back to what you said, it's not even the All Star break. Still lots of baseball to be played. Tom, plz don't jinx the Giants.

This. Each and every one of my friends said, "Trade him now!!!!" Maybe we could package him with Alderson and something for Halladay. Imagine Lincecum, Cain and Halladay in a short series. I'm dreaming but who cares.




I get your point, but I think i would be surprised if the Giants dont finish at the top or near the top of the wildcard spot. Their pitching is too consistent for them to go on a prolonged losing streak. Plus, Sandoval is one of the best young players in baseball.



Lol. I'll try not to.

Whoever gets Halladay will have to be able to lock him up long term. And there is absolutely no way that the Giants will be able to afford that as well as lock up Lincecum and Cain. Nice try tho.

I like him so far, but my main concern with him would be his body breaking down sooner rather then later. Players with his body type tend to run into injury problems, or just get too out of shape (see Dimitri Young, Daryle Ward - both very talented hitters who's careers weren't all that impressive).

Also, any doubts I might have about the Giants ability to keep up their pace come from how they have done against better teams and on the road. As with a lot of teams with young players, they have been much better at home. They've done well to beat the weaker teams (Padres, Nationals, etc), but have struggled against teams like the Angels and the Mets (both series at SF), who haven't been world beaters this year, but have a lot more talent on their rosters then some teams.

The Giants most impressive performance in a road series that I can think of was taking 2/3 at La, but as a rival that isn't that surprising. Splitting in STL was a decent outcome too.

On the bright side, most of the NL sucks so they benefit there. Not playing a lot of games vs the Rockies early (like the Dodgers) when they sucked might hurt them in the long run though.

Yes, can i go back and add this to my reasoning?

I disagree completely with those comparisons. Sandoval has tremendous hand-eye coordination (allows him to square-up balls out of the strike zone and still get hits) that allows him to hit for high average, unlike Ward.

Also, unlike Dmitri Young, Sandoval is very athletic and a good defensive player. Sandoval is pretty quick and can play multiple positions well whereas Young is a complete liability on defense.

You are right that they are similar in build, but i think sandoval is a far better athlete in general.

Blah had a response typed up and I misclicked.

1. Lol at making definite statements about a guy with a year's worth of experience.
2. Lol at Sandoval being the only MLB hitter with good hand-eye coordination...Pretty sure Ward and Young had that as well....
3. Since when is Sandoval a 'good defensive player'? Not as bad as some thought maybe, but good? If that is the case, why did Bochy yank him for Uribe in the Sanchez no hitter? It's not like Uribe is Brooks Robinson...
4. I was giving Sandoval a compliment by comaring him to Dmitri Young; a .292 career avg with about 20 hrs a year is pretty good. I could have compared him to another SFG all star 3b, Chris Brown.


I have to admit I admire some Giants fans optimism. There are Dodgers players who have been 'established' for a few years now and I am still uncertain of how good of a career they will end up having. I'd probably be in a great mood when watching Dodgers games if I thought they all were flawless, future HOFers. Physical limitations and past precedents? Meh, that's silly talk.

Noted.

My main point in regards to Sandoval/body type, is he probably is at the peak of his athletic ability right now. He obviously can hit major league pitching, but it's not like as he gets older he will get more athletic, faster, more agile, etc etc.

I have an english bulldog that is two and he hit his athletic peak when he was like 8 months old lol.

if he calls Bonds and gets some PEDs he will. And yes, Monte's fat ass is def out of shape.

does Garrett Jones deserve his own thread yet?

Alderson for Freddie Sanchez??????? Vomit.

Guess he didn't learn from the AJ for Nathan/Liriano fiasco.

Yeah, at first glance I thought the Pirates made out well, and the more I look at Sanchez, the less I like the deal for the Giants. Hitting .296 with a .334 obp and little pop, so I guess he will fit in with the rest of the lineup.

Both deals have been improvements over what they had, but if I was a Giants fan I would be pissed that those needs were not addressed last winter.

this. I'm not happy that the Giants gave up Alderson.

Really? I don't understand this. Sabean gets ripped and ripped for not doing anything, then when he does, Giants fans are still not happy. I mean have any of the Giants fans in here really ever seen Alderson pitch? How good is he really? Is he really not worth trading for a possibility at getting to the playoffs this year? As an A's fan, I only wish my team was in position to make trades for guys like Garko and Sanchez. Maybe I'm outta line here, but I'd rather be playing for this year, and not for 4-5 years down the road. A's fans are friggin force-fed the future. I'm just so sick of it...I wanna live in the now dammit!!

Ok sorry /rant.

Sanchez is so bad. He is like a true .289 hitter, which is good, but its also his only skill. He doesn't walk, he doesn't hit for power and he is below average defensively. Plus for how mediocre he is, he is pretty expensive 6.2 million for this year, and a 8 million dollar vesting option for next. And the Giants are on the hook for all of the money owed to him.

I'm not a Alderson fan because he doesn't seem to get many strikeouts, but this is still a guy that who was widely considered to be in the top 30-50 prospects. I believe ESPN even had him in the twenties. And thats just too much to give up for Sanchez.

How in the same universe is it that Sanchez goes for Alderson that the Marlins are saying no to a Heath Bell for Sean West trade?

I guess I just keep hearing all these fans on KNBR talk about how 'untouchable' Alderson and Bumgardner (sp?) are, but I just wonder how many of those people really know who these guys are, and how many of them just hear a name and take a stand based solely on that. Like I said, I guess I'm just speaking as a frustrated A's fan who never gets to see his team buy...it's always sell sell sell.

I know exactly what you're talking about Sportsmack. Sebean made this trade to help us now, but I don't know if it's worth giving up Alderson. Alderson is a really good pitcher and giving him up for Sanchez who isn't that great of a player was a big mistake on Sebean's part, imo. Sure, he might help us this year, but like moneyball said, we are on the hook for his contract which is a decent amount of money. Only time will tell if this was a good trade, bad trade or a horrible trade (Pyerzynski for Nathan, Francisco and Booth).

I have no problem with Sabean going after Sanchez - it's just that he seems to overpay all the time. Look at the trades that the Brewers and Twins made for Felipe Lopez and Orlando Cabrera (two middle infielders that are reasonable comparisons to Sanchez). Neither of those two teams gave up any high level prospects.

The Cardinals did give up a high level prospect (Wallace) but they got in return a big bat in Holliday. If you're going to deal Alderson, you'd better be getting a Victor Martinez, not a Freddy Sanchez.

There's another good reason that the Sanchez trade sucks. Why aren't the Giants playing Juan Uribe at 2B? He's played there in the past when he was on the White Sox. Take a look at some of his past seasons - he actually has good power for a middle infielder.

The umping in this series against the Dodgers was TOTAL BULLSH!IT!! I've never seen so many calls blown in this short of a span! The double play/double WRONG call in the 5th was complete horse sh!t. Fuc you MLB umpires. suc on a horses hole.

*NEWSFLASH* MLB Umpires Suck

Also, which blown call cost them 9 runs yesterday? The Dodgers are just the better team.

Blaming the umps? C'mon Gereral, you're better than that. You're not GoodTom.

Uribe was injured at the time this trade was made. Also, Sanchez has another year on his contract (well...an option that will be picked up) so he is not exactly a rent-a-player. I wasn't a fan of the trade at first, but I really like Sanchez as a player and I don't think that Alderson will ever be a dominant major league pitcher. I don't think it was an ideal trade by any means because they probably could have gotten him for less, but it is not as bad as some people think.




Agreed. This was the worst umpired series I have seen in my entire life. Three blown calls today (Furcal out at first which extended the game, shierholtz safe at first, sandoval getting hit by pitch - called a strike) and numerous other blown calls at first base earlier in the series....****ing ridiculous.

Does anyone know what kind of review system the mlb has for major league umps? Cuz this crew certainly should be reprimanded.




Go choke on a dick, douchebag. Its ok to complain about bad umpires when it affects the integrity of the game.

No need to sweet talk me, you're not gonna win me over on this one

Lol, both those plays at 1B earlier in the series came with 2 out and nobody on. Were the Giants suddenly not going to suck offensively? I can understand being upset about them, but they really had no effect on the game whatsoever. Furcal was def out in the 9th yesterday though, and that had a direct effect on the outcome of the game. As did the enormous strike zone Lincecum was fortunate enough to work with all day.






The good thing about all the bad calls is that it gives the kool aid drinking Giants fans something to distract them from a 2-4 home stand, an increasingly unstable back end of the rotation (and that is counting Zito as 'stable'), and a completely ineffective lineup.

On a side note, I didn't mind losing on the walk off yesterday; I obviously would have loved to sweep them, and I def went on a verbal rant about how much I hate Mota afterwards, but 2/3 is more than I was actually expecting. The Dodgers threw Weaver+ McDonald and other relievers our there against the best pitcher in baseball and lost in 10, oh well. I also feel like a Lincecum 2-1 complete game victory would have been more of a momentum builder for the Giants then a random walk off hr. Ethier continues to show that he is our most clutch hitter and that is saying a lot with Manny in the lineup.

our season would of been over if we lost that game. I was also ranting about the bad calls because it was just one after other and it just grew to a boiling point. And like u said Patrick, if Lincecum had finished that game, our momentum would of been high.

How would your season have been over if you lost that game? That's what I don't get. Do you still think that the Giants have a chance to catch the Dodgers? Or are you looking realistically at the Wild Card? Because as it stands going into play today, you guys are only 1.5 games out of the Wild Card. So how would another half game mean your season is over? And I don't mean momentum wise either. They had no momentum coming into that game, so that win did nothing for them momentum wise. It's a "1 game winning streak."

I don't think the Giants are done by any means. Do they have an uphill battle? Yeah. But they're chasing the Rockies, not the Dodgers. It's a 1.5 chase from here on out, and as long as you look at it that way, you will be much better off...Well maybe not GoodTom so much



Yeah Yeah I know, go suck a d--k.

Did you watch that game? I have to disagree with you on the momentum part. Lincecum pitched a hell of a game against a great Dodger lineup. If we lost in extras it would of crushed our spirits and our season would probably be done. Another reason it would sting more is that the Dodgers have had our number for at least the past five years.

"I don't think the Giants are done by any means. Do they have an uphill battle? Yeah. But they're chasing the Rockies, not the Dodgers. It's a 1.5 chase from here on out, and as long as you look at it that way, you will be much better off...Well maybe not GoodTom so much



Yeah Yeah I know, go suck a d--k."


I have no idea what you are trying to say about me here, but u can stop pointlessly referencing me. k thx.



Have to agree with Sportsmack....Losing would have hurt a lot, but it wouldn't have been the end of the season. Momentum is a fickle friend.

In another note, I hope David Wright is not out for the season...that was ugly. Kuroda too for that matter.

I'm not sure either, you're just fun to mess with...just stop taking this all so seriously.




I bet that hurt.

Yeah, it hurt. I cried a little


On another note, why the bleep is schierholtz not playing? did he stab bochy or something?!?!?

I believe Schierholtz is fine, but Wynn had a pretty nice game last night...it might just be a "play the hot bat" situation. I actually think he's like 2 for 3 already tonight with 2 RBI. Looks like he might get a few more starts.

/season

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And as an aside - how has that Sanchez trade worked out so far? Sabean, you dimwit!

I think that is a little bit of an overreaction. I realize the loss was devastating, but teams have come back from worse.

The Rockies play the dodgers for three games and then head to SF to play three games. If the Giants are still 4 games out after this stretch, then yes, I would say they are out of it.

stop drinking the cool aid.

How can i stop when its delicious and red flavored? HOW CAN I?!?!?!

eff why pee

Clutch Kirk Gibson-esqe HR by Bengie

...3 games back

Late inning heroics against Arizona. Let me say that again....ARIZONA!!