Playing $0.25/0.50 PL Omaha on Bodog 6-handed. Typical table of fish. About 90% seeing the flop.

Hero has $81.25
MP1 has $90.50

I'm BB and am dealt 7h-2h-3s-6d

The entire table calls, I check.

Flop ($3.00): Jd-7d-2d

SB checks, I bet the pot, table calls.

I bet the pot here because I play pretty tight and I want to knock out hands that think I have the nut flush and find out who actually has the flush. More of a bluff with 2 pair than anything.

Turn($21.00): Qd

SB checks, I check, table checks.

I've essentially given up on the hand. Somebody has to have the flush.

River($21.00): 7c

SB checks, I bet $15, folded to MP1, MP1 raises to $35, folded to me. I think and call.

I have no idea what to make of that bet. He could have J-7 or Q-7, and I figure if he does, I'll pay him off.

Showdown:
Hero shows 2h-7h-3s-6d
MP1 shows Js-Jc-2s-Jh

Is this a bad beat? Should I have folded to the raise? I'm not a good omaha player, so I'm not sure what to make of this. :eh:

I sometimes play O/8 although I'm still learning but here are my thoughts.

I check the flop and give up on this hand; no way I bet that flop as I'm behind any flush or trips.

On the river, I fold to the raise. I probably don't bet it either. You have the boat but QQ, JJ, Q7, J7 all beat you.

It's not a bad beat as you're behind the whole way to MP1

Have you read Akishore's two part guide to Omaha that he put together? It's good reading.

Yeah, I've read Akishore's intro to omaha posts. I should probably reread them though.

The more I think about this, the more I think I should have either checked the entire way, bet the turn, or check/folded the river. If I check the whole way, obviously I avoid everything. If I bet the turn, there's a chance I can get MP1 to fold (though he played JJ2J anyway, so he may have stayed in). And if I check/fold the river, I can get out without losing much.

Bottom two pair sucks under any circumstances. It sucks even more against a flush board. Betting into that flop from the big blind is lunacy. Check/fold that trash.



A wise man once said "Stop playing Omaha immediately".

I don't want to flame, but if you're making plays like that, those words might be good advice.

Yeah, I know that I suck. I'm trying to get better. "Stop playing" is the absoulte worst advice you can give any learning player for any game. Don't be a douchebag - either give advice or don't post. It's that simple. This isn't the General forum.

your first mistake was betting the pot in the first place on the flop. Your hand sucks here. Bottom two is a complete trap hand in PLO. You can do nothing but make underfulls like you did here. I would've check folded this flop. You know that you are probably beat by someone with a glush, and if someone has top set, your drawing virtually dead. Your hand was just crap no matter which way you look at it. Just learn from this lesson

I'll repost my advice: Check/fold bottom two pair every single time. Underfulls are a great way to lose money.


The PLO chapter of SS2 gives a lot of detail on this, but as KDawg said, it's a trap hand. In this case, you were drawing to running sevens since the top set was out against you.

Rule #1 of Omaha: Draw to the nuts. The only nut hand you could have made was a four of a kind with running sevens since a two in villian's hand.


Instead of "Stop playing Omaha immediately", how about taking a break from PLO until you've read the SS2 chapter about it? If you want to play some limit Omaha to see hands, that's fine I suppose.