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brvheart
I'm a fairly big fan of his, considering I'm not really a hip-hop fan, and considering I'm not a democrat (which Marshall is). I just think he's a genius.

This is a really well written story about him.


EDIT: Link fixed.
keith crime
link doesnt work

i heard he got fat
Jadaki
QUOTE (keith crime @ Wednesday, February 4th, 2009, 8:44 AM) *
link doesnt work

i heard he got fat


Working link
dapokerbum
"I have one story that sums Em up," ventures a friend. "After his second album he was in the jewellery store. He really liked a watch, but was worried that he'd not be able to afford it, so called his manager, Paul Rosenberg, to check he had enough cash. The watch turned out to be $15,000. At the time, Em was one of the hottest artists on the planet. He was worth millions. So Paul told him not to be silly, and just buy the watch.

That's awesome! Also, I have always loved the fact that he seems to be such an everyday person. Definitely one of my favorite artists. I am AMPED that there is finally a new album coming out!!
dizzlerock
amazing article. this album is going to have to be insane to leave up to the hype.
El Guapo
QUOTE
The rapper Nas recently contended that hip-hop is dead. Critics say it has run out of steam, stopped evolving, and in common with the rest of the music industry, reached a point of commercial hopelessness and artistic stagnation.


Josh can do you know what this is from? And when?

Because I agree with it, and would like to see if it was just a quip or an actual interview.
Jadaki
QUOTE (dizzlerock @ Wednesday, February 4th, 2009, 11:42 AM) *
amazing article. this album is going to have to be insane to leave up to the hype.


I'm lucky, I haven't heard any of the hype dealing with it so I'm just looking forward to new material. One of the guys I work with has an old college roommate that works for Eminem now and backs up a bunch of that story about him just being in the studio constantly for years. If this album is indeed a cherry picking of 300 unreleased tracks polished by Dre, it should be phenomenal.
Jadaki
QUOTE (El Guapo @ Wednesday, February 4th, 2009, 11:47 AM) *
Josh can do you know what this is from? And when?


A lot of interviews from Nas around the time of his Hip-Hop is Dead album being released where he discussed that to much of what passes for today as popular rap isn't representative of the how he looks at the artform and how he was hoping it would progress. I tend to agree, especially with the rise in popularity of southern hip-hop which is pretty much the worst sub genre of hip-hop ever.
El Guapo
QUOTE (Jadaki @ Wednesday, February 4th, 2009, 9:52 AM) *
A lot of interviews from Nas around the time of his Hip-Hop is Dead album being released where he discussed that to much of what passes for today as popular rap isn't representative of the how he looks at the artform and how he was hoping it would progress. I tend to agree, especially with the rise in popularity of southern hip-hop which is pretty much the worst sub genre of hip-hop ever.



What southern rap are you talking about? Because Outkast, GoodieMob, Luda, etc. are some of my favorite stuff ever.

If you are talking about Lil Jon, Lil Wayne, Rick Ross and that junk then I agree.
king_tanner
The main problem I have with most of his albums is that usually I'll love 3 or 4 songs, but can't stand the rest of it.

I love this song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oboymzFgIhU
dizzlerock
QUOTE (king_tanner @ Wednesday, February 4th, 2009, 11:19 AM) *
The main problem I have with most of his albums is that usually I'll love 3 or 4 songs, but can't stand the rest of it.

His second and third cd (marshall mathers lp and eminem show) i thought every song on those albulms were good.
Mercury69
QUOTE (dapokerbum @ Wednesday, February 4th, 2009, 12:31 PM) *
"I have one story that sums Em up," ventures a friend. "After his second album he was in the jewellery store. He really liked a watch, but was worried that he'd not be able to afford it, so called his manager, Paul Rosenberg, to check he had enough cash. The watch turned out to be $15,000. At the time, Em was one of the hottest artists on the planet. He was worth millions. So Paul told him not to be silly, and just buy the watch.

That's awesome! Also, I have always loved the fact that he seems to be such an everyday person. Definitely one of my favorite artists. I am AMPED that there is finally a new album coming out!!




AHAHAHHAAAAAAA!!!!!


Most hiphop sucks major ass...
Jadaki
QUOTE (El Guapo @ Wednesday, February 4th, 2009, 12:03 PM) *
What southern rap are you talking about? Because Outkast, GoodieMob, Luda, etc. are some of my favorite stuff ever.

If you are talking about Lil Jon, Lil Wayne, Rick Ross and that junk then I agree.


I love Outkast and Luda, I'm talking more of the style that Lil Jon introduced, the club/crunk music, shit is horrid. Pretty much anything since No Limit, Cash Money and similar labels started popping up has been all garbage. The talented artist from the south get buried in with the trash.
El Guapo
QUOTE (Jadaki @ Wednesday, February 4th, 2009, 12:40 PM) *
I love Outkast and Luda, I'm talking more of the style that Lil Jon introduced, the club/crunk music, shit is horrid. Pretty much anything since No Limit, Cash Money and similar labels started popping up has been all garbage. The talented artist from the south get buried in with the trash.



You mean "Make em say Uggghhhhhhh, Na Na Na Na" Isn't in your current rotation?
TRB05
QUOTE (Jadaki @ Wednesday, February 4th, 2009, 11:52 AM) *
A lot of interviews from Nas around the time of his Hip-Hop is Dead album being released where he discussed that to much of what passes for today as popular rap isn't representative of the how he looks at the artform and how he was hoping it would progress. I tend to agree, especially with the rise in popularity of southern hip-hop which is pretty much the worst sub genre of hip-hop ever.


QFT

QUOTE (Jadaki @ Wednesday, February 4th, 2009, 2:40 PM) *
I love Outkast and Luda, I'm talking more of the style that Lil Jon introduced, the club/crunk music, shit is horrid. Pretty much anything since No Limit, Cash Money and similar labels started popping up has been all garbage. The talented artist from the south get buried in with the trash.


QFMFT


There is a song by Eminem, I'm not sure if its on the new CD or it's older, but it is totally ripping on that "horrid shit" as you put it.

-I can't find that song mainly because I don't remember what it's called, but they play it on Shade45 on Sirius Radio occasionally.

Edit-Fuck I've spent the better part of an hour trying to find this song and I can't find it anywhere. Sorry, I'll write it down next time I hear it.
dapokerbum
QUOTE (TRB05 @ Wednesday, February 4th, 2009, 5:07 PM) *
QFT



QFMFT


There is a song by Eminem, I'm not sure if its on the new CD or it's older, but it is totally ripping on that "horrid shit" as you put it.

-I can't find that song mainly because I don't remember what it's called, but they play it on Shade45 on Sirius Radio occasionally.

Edit-Fuck I've spent the better part of an hour trying to find this song and I can't find it anywhere. Sorry, I'll write it down next time I hear it.


Can you remember any of the verses? or do you just remember that he is ripping on that "horrid shit". I do remember the song where he bags on Limp Bizkit ... that is funny.

Also, has anyone else heard the song "Whack Rappers" by Afroman. He basically calls out everyone and it's funny as hell
Jadaki
QUOTE (dapokerbum @ Thursday, February 5th, 2009, 2:35 PM) *
Can you remember any of the verses? or do you just remember that he is ripping on that "horrid shit". I do remember the song where he bags on Limp Bizkit ... that is funny.


The song, he has like 5-6 ripping into them...
dapokerbum
QUOTE (Jadaki @ Thursday, February 5th, 2009, 12:46 PM) *
The song, he has like 5-6 ripping into them...


I was thinking of the D12 Song "Girls" from Devil's Night


Hey yo dawg
I got some shit on my mother****in chest that
I need to get off cause, if I don't
I'ma ****in explode, or somethin
Now look - this is a story about
Some little ****in girls that I know
It goes like this..

It's so easy for me to make enemies any more it's sickening
People are lookin for an excuse to jump on my shitlist
Stickin their noses in shit that isn't none of their business
I never asked, cared, gave a ****, or wanted opinions
Now I'm in the position that, I don't wanna be in - shit
I never had no beef with your corny son of a bitches
But now the shit is broke and you can't do nothin to fix it
So I'm tellin you right now - mother**** a limp bizkit
Now i'ma be real, b-real was real
He ain't say shit the whole time me and whitey was beefin;
See he chilled
He was cool with the whole situation and kept it neutral
I'd have never involved my crew if it wasn't for pupils
Peoples, whatever your backpackin cypherin name is
Had I not opened a magazine and seen what you sayin and
I'da never involved you, but you had to add your two pennies
Now I gotta go grab my shitlist and add some new enemies
Hit the studio and I'll admit, I had a few in me
**** it, I roasted you, I ain't mad at you any
But let it be known that song was never released, it leaked
I'da never gave you that much attention intentionally
Then I look on the tv, now look who's mentionin me
That little ****in weasel, dj lethal, on mtv
After I gave you props in that song, you on national tv
Talkin bout everlast is gonna whip my ass when he sees me?
Come on dawg, you was supposed to be on that song
Talkin bout how bad you hate him, now you all on his thong?
What's wrong? you scared, and fred, you said you was dissin him too
I shoulda knew better than to listen to you
You ****in sissy, up on stage, screamin how people hate you
They don't hate you
They just think you're corny since christina played you
And I dare you mother****ers to try to diss me back
That's a sissy act, and don't call me kissin my ass
Cause I swear to God this ain't just a song I'm tryin to pre-warn you
Lethal when I ****in see you dawg I'm swingin on you!
Mother****ers must think cause I'm in trouble with the law
That I won't jaw 'em, up my sentence and double it tomorrow


Y'all some - girrrrls - y'all are some God damn girls
Why do you act this way? - why do you act this way huh?
Why do y'all act like ****in sissies you pussies
Keep talkin shit behind my back you just some bitches for that
And we all knowwww - we all know, hah
How ****in cowards rollll - "keep rollin rollin rollin"
In-****in-dent me's and pretend to be down
But as soon as someone calls you out
You put your tail between your legs and bow dowwwn


Now I don't ask nobody to share my beliefs, to be involved in my beefs
I'm a man, I can stand on my feet
So if you don't wanna be in 'em all I ask
Is that you don't open your mouth with an opinion
And I won't put you in 'em
'cause I don't ask nobody to share my beliefs, to be involved in my beefs
I'm a man, I can stand on my feet
So if you don't wanna be in 'em all I ask
Is that you don't open your mouth with an opinion
And I won't put you in 'em

Now see if you diss me and I respond, the beef is on
But if I help you sell one record
And I see you at a show, I'll strip you naked
See I was smart, I came back and scooped up my friends
Now I got five dawgs that'll die for me like I'll die for them
I'll fight for them, swing or shoot like I fight for kim
All of 'em been with me through this ****ed up life that I'm in
That goes for all of my dogs, from royce to dre
From xzibit to mel-man, 'til I'm hoist away
In my coffin I'll never soften no matter how often I'm tested
I'll never give a ****, I won't never be interested
Love me or hate me as much as fred wants to be hated
I will solemnly stand by every statement I stated
This shit that I been through my pencil never could pencil
But I will never be this gullible ever again though (nope)
Next time I'll know when someone's copyin off me
I'm not bein cocky, I just know when somebody's mockin me
I stick up my middle finger, he sticks up his finger (hey!)
I say "**** christina" he says "**** christina" but meaner
So from doin a song with method to beggin to get accepted
I'm peggin fred with the bottle of dye that he bleached his head with
And as for lethal, don't forget what I said
I'm ****in you up punk, you're dead! don't think that I'm playin
And **** bizkit! cause I know you're sayin **** d-12
Only not to our face, under your breath, to yourselves


You little - girrrrls - mother****in females
Why do you act this way? - why do y'all act this way huh?
Why do y'all act like ****in sissies you pussies
Keep talkin shit behind my back you just some bitches for that
And we all knowwww - now we all know the truth
How ****in cowards rollll - "keep rollin rollin rollin"
In-****in-dent me's and pretend to be down
But as soon as someone calls you out
You put your tail between your legs and bow dowwwn


Now I don't ask nobody to share my beliefs, to be involved in my beefs
I'm a man, I can stand on my feet
So if you don't wanna be in 'em all I ask
Is that you don't open your mouth with an opinion
And I won't put you in 'em
'cause I don't ask nobody to share my beliefs, to be involved in my beefs
I'm a man, I can stand on my feet
So if you don't wanna be in 'em all I ask
Is that you don't open your mouth with an opinion
And I won't put you in it

And that's it, that's all there is to it dawg
If you didn't wanna do the ****in song
Don't say you're down with doin the ****in song
And then back out at the last minute
And then go on mother****in mtv talkin about
Everlast can whip my mother****in ass
If you're scared of whitey ford dog
Just say you're scared of whitey ford, that's it
That's all you had to ****in say, I wouldn'ta said shit
I woulda backed off, did the mother****in song myself
And not put you mother****ers in it, that's all
Now I ain't even on no rap shit no more
I'm on some ****in-you-up shit when I see you
And I will see you too; oh, and by the way fred
That wasn't an accident
I didn't mean to give you a play at the music awards
Haha..
Jadaki
I knew exactly which one you were thinking of, its by far the most well known one.
dapokerbum
QUOTE (Jadaki @ Thursday, February 5th, 2009, 1:03 PM) *
I knew exactly which one you were thinking of, its by far the most well known one.


You're bulemic!
TRB05
Apparently I completely misunderstood the song having only heard it a couple of times. Armageddon was the song I was thinking about, where he mispronounces several words like those southern rappers tend to do, so I took it the wrong way. Oops, sorry.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkizv7RZJxg
Arsenic
After an album like "ENCORE", what the **** can you possibly expect from Eminem? The man made amazing songs, his first 3 albums were classics and now he realizes he can fart on a track for 2 minutes and sell platinum the first week. He just really doesn't give a **** any more.
Jadaki
QUOTE (Arsenic @ Friday, February 6th, 2009, 10:55 AM) *
After an album like "ENCORE", what the **** can you possibly expect from Eminem? The man made amazing songs, his first 3 albums were classics and now he realizes he can fart on a track for 2 minutes and sell platinum the first week. He just really doesn't give a **** any more.


The guy seeks acceptance through his music, everything written about him by people that got close to him talk about hos obsessive he is about putting out something that's worthwhile. If he wanted to shit on a track and release it to make money he doesn't need we would have seen CD's every 6 months for the last 5 years. He reportedly has over 300 tracks recorded that are not released, think about it.
keith crime
I don't think any great artist consciously puts out a bad album, but inevitably - it gets harder to do something new and you can't possibly have the same hunger as you did when you were broke

If Dre's producing I'll always give enything Em releases a shot tho
Theraflu
QUOTE (Jadaki @ Friday, February 6th, 2009, 9:05 AM) *
The guy seeks acceptance through his music, everything written about him by people that got close to him talk about hos obsessive he is about putting out something that's worthwhile. If he wanted to shit on a track and release it to make money he doesn't need we would have seen CD's every 6 months for the last 5 years. He reportedly has over 300 tracks recorded that are not released, think about it.

Maybe, but the last album was horrifically bad.
dapokerbum
QUOTE (Theraflu @ Saturday, February 7th, 2009, 7:00 AM) *
Maybe, but the last album was horrifically bad.


WRONG
brvheart
QUOTE (Theraflu @ Saturday, February 7th, 2009, 9:00 AM) *
Maybe, but the last album was horrifically bad.


Which album are you talking about?
El Guapo
QUOTE (brvheart @ Monday, February 9th, 2009, 12:21 PM) *
Which album are you talking about?



Most likely Encore. It only had a couple tracks I liked.
HangukMiguk
QUOTE (El Guapo @ Monday, February 9th, 2009, 2:23 PM) *
Most likely Encore. It only had a couple tracks I liked.

Mosh & Like Toy Soldiers better be up in that.
BigDMcGee
QUOTE (brvheart @ Wednesday, February 4th, 2009, 2:25 AM) *
I'm a fairly big fan of his, considering I'm not really a hip-hop fan, and considering I'm not a democrat (which Marshall is). I just think he's a genius.

This is a really well written story about him.


EDIT: Link fixed.




LOL at "I'm a fairly big fan of his, considering I'm not a democrat. " I mean, LOL at even bringing political affiliation up in an Eminem thread.
Sal Paradise
QUOTE (BigDMcGee @ Monday, February 9th, 2009, 4:12 PM) *
LOL at "I'm a fairly big fan of his, considering I'm not a democrat. " I mean, LOL at even bringing political affiliation up in an Eminem thread.

ummm... according to zogby 97% of eminem fans are democrats. he was just pointing out that he was one of the 3%.
El Guapo
QUOTE (Sal Paradise @ Monday, February 9th, 2009, 3:26 PM) *
ummm... according to zogby 97% of eminem fans are democrats. he was just pointing out that he was one of the 3%.


are we the other 2?
Sal Paradise
QUOTE (El Guapo @ Monday, February 9th, 2009, 6:32 PM) *
are we the other 2?

not really an eminem fan. slugs my favorite pasty negro.
brvheart
QUOTE (BigDMcGee @ Monday, February 9th, 2009, 3:12 PM) *
LOL at "I'm a fairly big fan of his, considering I'm not a democrat. " I mean, LOL at even bringing political affiliation up in an Eminem thread.


His more recent stuff was fairly anti-GOP.
El Guapo
QUOTE (brvheart @ Monday, February 9th, 2009, 3:37 PM) *
His more recent stuff was fairly anti-GOP.


Ummm, so is every musician in the history of the world.
Sal Paradise
QUOTE (El Guapo @ Monday, February 9th, 2009, 6:57 PM) *
Ummm, so is every musician in the history of the world.

not toby keith.




lol. toby keith is a musician. I still got it!
Theraflu
QUOTE (brvheart @ Monday, February 9th, 2009, 12:21 PM) *
Which album are you talking about?



QUOTE (El Guapo @ Monday, February 9th, 2009, 12:23 PM) *
Most likely Encore. It only had a couple tracks I liked.



QUOTE (HangukMiguk @ Monday, February 9th, 2009, 1:08 PM) *
Mosh & Like Toy Soldiers better be up in that.

Yes, Encore. There were 3-4 songs I could listen to, but Puke, Ass like that, my first single, and some others were just awful.
dapokerbum
QUOTE (Theraflu @ Monday, February 9th, 2009, 4:08 PM) *
Yes, Encore. There were 3-4 songs I could listen to, but Puke, Ass like that, my first single, and some others were just awful.


1. Curtains Up
2. Evil Deeds
3. Never Enough
4. Yellow Brick Road
5. Like Toy Soldiers
6. Mosh
7. Puke
8. My 1st Single
9. Paul (Skit)
10. Rain Man
11. Big Weenie
12. Em Calls Paul (Skit)
13. Just Lose It
14. Ass Like That
15. Spend Some Time
16. Mockingbird
17. Crazy in Love
18. One Shot 2 Shot
19. Final Thought (Skit)
20. Encore
21. We as Americans
22. Love You More
23. Ricky Ticky Toc

I guess it's just a matter of opinion, but the only track that I didn't like that much was 15. I really enjoy the rest of the album.

*EDIT: Just checked the site and apparently there is a new album out.
http://www.eminem.com/

**EDIT: and I'm retarded ... it's just the new single!
HangukMiguk
QUOTE (Theraflu @ Monday, February 9th, 2009, 6:08 PM) *
Yes, Encore. There were 3-4 songs I could listen to, but Puke, Ass like that, my first single, and some others were just awful.

Ass like that was actually better than Just Lose It...imo. I thought that song was atrocious.

Not to say the former was quality Eminem. Those two songs were the bottom of the barrel in Eminem single standards.
BigDMcGee
QUOTE (Sal Paradise @ Monday, February 9th, 2009, 4:02 PM) *
not toby keith.




lol. toby keith is a musician. I still got it!



I also would have accepted Ted Nugget
El Guapo
QUOTE (BigDMcGee @ Wednesday, February 11th, 2009, 7:40 AM) *
I also would have accepted Ted Nugget


He is not a musician, he is a hunter.
CindyLou
QUOTE (El Guapo @ Wednesday, February 11th, 2009, 7:50 PM) *
He is not a musician, he is a hunter.

And from what I've heard, he goes well with hot mustard sauce.
Voldemort
QUOTE (Jadaki @ Wednesday, February 4th, 2009, 12:50 PM) *
I'm lucky, I haven't heard any of the hype dealing with it so I'm just looking forward to new material. One of the guys I work with has an old college roommate that works for Eminem now and backs up a bunch of that story about him just being in the studio constantly for years. If this album is indeed a cherry picking of 300 unreleased tracks polished by Dre, it should be phenomenal.

God I hope so.
El Guapo
QUOTE (CindyLou @ Wednesday, February 11th, 2009, 5:09 PM) *
And from what I've heard, he goes well with hot mustard sauce.


You know what, they don't have that in Canada.
Suited_Up
New Video is out.

Not exactly great, but cut from the same mold as all the rest of his 1st singles off a new album.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIkzQYns61Q
Jadaki
Ehhh.. I hate when he uses that voice.
byaaatch
very interesting song. It just doesn't seem like an eminem song. The video is very odd to say the least. Hot chicks but just odd.

Suited_Up
QUOTE (byaaatch @ Wednesday, April 8th, 2009, 2:46 PM) *
very interesting song. It just doesn't seem like an eminem song. The video is very odd to say the least. Hot chicks but just odd.


It doesn't? Almost all his 1st singles were spoofy type songs like that. Especially more recently.
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