pezeveng
Monday, February 2nd, 2009, 1:42 PM
So Iam at CasinoRama last night dropped about $1500 go to the bank machine and whaddya know the screen is on the page of how much to withdraw. Someone walked away and didn't cancel the transaction. Amazingly enough this is the 3rd time Ive come to this moral crossroad.
Have any of you ever been in this situation and what did you do or what would you do.
troyomac
Monday, February 2nd, 2009, 1:44 PM
I feel like if people are stupid enough to do that, they deserve to have their money taken from them, but I could never take it.
Piddle Duck
Monday, February 2nd, 2009, 1:45 PM
being that most ATM's I have seen have a camera, I cancel it and put in my card.
El Guapo
Monday, February 2nd, 2009, 1:46 PM
One word
Camera's
Not only on the ATM, but you are at a casino.
dizzlerock
Monday, February 2nd, 2009, 1:46 PM
id cancel the transaction. most casinios have cameras at the atm anyway. I probably heistate though.
dizzlerock
Monday, February 2nd, 2009, 1:47 PM
QUOTE (troyomac @ Monday, February 2nd, 2009, 2:44 PM)

I feel like if people are stupid enough to do that, they deserve to have their money taken from them, but I could never take it.
it is probably some drunk ass seeing double
Sal Paradise
Monday, February 2nd, 2009, 1:48 PM
don't listen to these fags, take the money
pezeveng
Monday, February 2nd, 2009, 1:52 PM
QUOTE (Sal Paradise @ Monday, February 2nd, 2009, 1:48 PM)

don't listen to these fags, take the money
Ya 3 days later when the person realizes the money is gone the bank is going to sift through the tape find your picture than put out a man hunt for the $300. I don't think so, the only time they will viw the tape is during a robbery
king_tanner
Monday, February 2nd, 2009, 1:52 PM
not worth getting arrested
vbnautilus
Monday, February 2nd, 2009, 2:09 PM
I would check the balance to satisfy my curiosity, then cancel the transaction.
Canuckickstan
Monday, February 2nd, 2009, 2:15 PM
I think 10 years ago I hit withdraw without a thought. Today, no way. I have a horrible conscience.
chrozzo
Monday, February 2nd, 2009, 2:33 PM
QUOTE (Canuckickstan @ Monday, February 2nd, 2009, 5:15 PM)

I think 10 years ago I hit withdraw without a thought. Today, no way. I have a horrible conscience.
those pesky consciences!
HollywoodAFD
Monday, February 2nd, 2009, 4:46 PM
Cancel
It's not about cameras and getting caught... it's about doing what is right.
Imagine the thread you would start here if it happened to you.
Thieves have no place in society.
phlegm
Monday, February 2nd, 2009, 4:54 PM
This happened to me once,
I checked the balance and decided if the guy was loaded Id take a few.
He wsant so I didnt.
Dawson Leery
Monday, February 2nd, 2009, 6:08 PM
QUOTE (pezeveng @ Monday, February 2nd, 2009, 2:42 PM)

So Iam at CasinoRama last night dropped about $1500 go to the bank machine and whaddya know the screen is on the page of how much to withdraw. Someone walked away and didn't cancel the transaction. Amazingly enough this is the 3rd time Ive come to this moral crossroad.
Have any of you ever been in this situation and what did you do or what would you do.
You must be one rich motherfu
cker
rcgs59
Monday, February 2nd, 2009, 6:27 PM
QUOTE (HollywoodAFD @ Monday, February 2nd, 2009, 7:46 PM)

Cancel
It's not about cameras and getting caught... it's about doing what is right.
Imagine the thread you would start here if it happened to you.
Thieves have no place in society.
my thoughts as well
pezeveng
Monday, February 2nd, 2009, 6:33 PM
well I didn't take the money I actually saw a lady walking down the aisle so I yelled out maam or miss or retard. I showed her the screen and told her "if I want I can withdraw $500 out of your account" she looked at me and said "why would you want to do that" I laughed and told her I wasn't going to but someone else could have. Anyways I told her to hit cancel after every visit to the bank machine just in case.
I proceeded back to the tables with a great vibe hit about $3300 and went back to my room. I'd say Karma is real but thats just a dirty word in this forum.
runthemover
Tuesday, February 3rd, 2009, 1:05 AM
QUOTE (El Guapo @ Monday, February 2nd, 2009, 1:46 PM)

One word
Camera's
are you going to post the one word, or are you gonna make us wait forever?
QUOTE (pezeveng @ Monday, February 2nd, 2009, 6:33 PM)

I'd say Karma is real but thats just a dirty word in this forum.
luckily bypassing the filter is quite easy
hmm. usually this is where my laugh track enters....I guess random smurf, jesus, and elvis got the day off.
you know which Superbowl commercial was funny this year that I haven't seen anyone mention in OT in the few threads I've kept up with? Conan's. Where he does the commercial in Iceland or whatever. That one was ok. Though I couldn't hear all the exact words since I was out watching the game. nobody? pissed off I capitalised Superbowl but not jesus or elvis huh? weirdos.
sacopoo
Tuesday, February 3rd, 2009, 2:24 AM
This has happened to me once in my life. It was about 7 years ago, I was a broke student. I took the money and did not feel that guilty about at the time. I used the money as a small bankroll for a local 4-8 underground game.
If you want to talk about karma, Ive had much more than the 500 I took from the guy taken from me. So this was an opportunity to help balance the equation.
With age comes maturity and a bigger conscience. I feel bad about it these days but honestly I can not say for certain that I wouldn't do it today if put in the same situation. Instead of being a broke student now I am a broke poker player with a hell of a lot of student loans.
Oh and I was not arrested. LOL at camera, like your picture will be on the 10 o clock news and you'll be the focus of a massive manhunt.
bigcoled
Tuesday, February 3rd, 2009, 2:27 AM
I would check the balance, and then take everything but a dollar... I want their money, but I dont want them to get an overdraft....
SlapStick
Tuesday, February 3rd, 2009, 2:28 AM
I'd take it, not tell anyone and then shit myself for weeks after I realised about the cameras
James D
Tuesday, February 3rd, 2009, 2:34 AM
Did this really happen, or did you just make it up?
I can't imagine anyone would suddenly leave an atm on the withdraw screen, and leave their card (the card would still need to be inside the machine, for that screen to be showing). Under what circumstances would someone do this... just randomly walk away?
SlapStick
Tuesday, February 3rd, 2009, 2:37 AM
QUOTE (James D @ Tuesday, February 3rd, 2009, 12:34 PM)

Did this really happen, or did you just make it up?
I can't imagine anyone would suddenly leave an atm on the withdraw screen, and leave their card (the card would still need to be inside the machine, for that screen to be showing). Under what circumstances would someone do this... just randomly walk away?
Maybe its one of the swipe ones, where you stick it in at the start and get it back.
James D
Tuesday, February 3rd, 2009, 2:40 AM
QUOTE (SlapStick @ Tuesday, February 3rd, 2009, 10:37 AM)

Maybe its one of the swipe ones, where you stick it in at the start and get it back.
One of those swipe ones? Never seen them... not in the UK anyway, do they have them in the US?
SlapStick
Tuesday, February 3rd, 2009, 3:49 AM
QUOTE (James D @ Tuesday, February 3rd, 2009, 12:40 PM)

One of those swipe ones? Never seen them... not in the UK anyway, do they have them in the US?
Yea I've never seen them in the UK or Ireland but they use them in Israel and I know I seen them somewhere else just not sure where. So I would assume its possible in America
rvrchsrhtr
Tuesday, February 3rd, 2009, 5:40 AM
yeah we have several of the "swipe" style atms here
James D
Tuesday, February 3rd, 2009, 5:59 AM
QUOTE (rvrchsrhtr @ Tuesday, February 3rd, 2009, 1:40 PM)

yeah we have several of the "swipe" style atms here
Didn't realize they existed... in that case, it's much more believable.
I don't like the idea of them at all though. People who have a change of mind for whatever reason, may think they've cancelled when they havn't. Don't you have to swipe to 'confirm' the transaction or anything? Seems like a very obvious security flaw if you don't.
SlapStick
Tuesday, February 3rd, 2009, 6:05 AM
Now that I think about it we do have them in Ireland but all this is off topic.
As said most likely it was some blind ass drunk person who left it open, in Israel one transaction and its over, you don't need to confirm
myenemy
Tuesday, February 3rd, 2009, 6:22 AM
QUOTE (James D @ Tuesday, February 3rd, 2009, 8:59 AM)

Didn't realize they existed... in that case, it's much more believable.
I don't like the idea of them at all though. People who have a change of mind for whatever reason, may think they've cancelled when they havn't. Don't you have to swipe to 'confirm' the transaction or anything? Seems like a very obvious security flaw if you don't.
Its realy not that difficult. Swipe. Pin code. Complete transaction. If that is too difficult for you, it doesnt seem to far a stretch that you would forget to retrieve the card from the machines that do not return it until after the transaction.
myenemy
Tuesday, February 3rd, 2009, 6:23 AM
QUOTE (James D @ Tuesday, February 3rd, 2009, 8:59 AM)

Didn't realize they existed... in that case, it's much more believable.
I don't like the idea of them at all though. People who have a change of mind for whatever reason, may think they've cancelled when they havn't. Don't you have to swipe to 'confirm' the transaction or anything? Seems like a very obvious security flaw if you don't.
Its realy not that difficult. Swipe. Pin code. Complete transaction. If that is too difficult for you, it doesnt seem to far a stretch that you would forget to retrieve the card from the machines that do not return it until after the transaction.
fryer98
Tuesday, February 3rd, 2009, 8:23 AM
QUOTE (myenemy @ Tuesday, February 3rd, 2009, 9:22 AM)

Its realy not that difficult. Swipe. Pin code. Complete transaction. If that is too difficult for you, it doesnt seem to far a stretch that you would forget to retrieve the card from the machines that do not return it until after the transaction.
QUOTE (myenemy @ Tuesday, February 3rd, 2009, 9:23 AM)

Its realy not that difficult. Swipe. Pin code. Complete transaction. If that is too difficult for you, it doesnt seem to far a stretch that you would forget to retrieve the card from the machines that do not return it until after the transaction.
Posting once really isn't that difficult either. Just sayin...
fryer98
Tuesday, February 3rd, 2009, 8:24 AM
QUOTE (myenemy @ Tuesday, February 3rd, 2009, 9:22 AM)

Its realy not that difficult. Swipe. Pin code. Complete transaction. If that is too difficult for you, it doesnt seem to far a stretch that you would forget to retrieve the card from the machines that do not return it until after the transaction.
QUOTE (myenemy @ Tuesday, February 3rd, 2009, 9:23 AM)

Its realy not that difficult. Swipe. Pin code. Complete transaction. If that is too difficult for you, it doesnt seem to far a stretch that you would forget to retrieve the card from the machines that do not return it until after the transaction.
Posting once really isn't that difficult either. Just sayin..........
dolfan
Tuesday, February 3rd, 2009, 8:28 AM
QUOTE (rvrchsrhtr @ Tuesday, February 3rd, 2009, 6:40 AM)

yeah we have several of the "swipe" style atms here
Those are way more common in my area than the ones that keep your card until you're finished.
Jadaki
Tuesday, February 3rd, 2009, 8:39 AM
QUOTE (fryer98 @ Tuesday, February 3rd, 2009, 10:23 AM)

Posting once really isn't that difficult either. Just sayin...
QUOTE (fryer98 @ Tuesday, February 3rd, 2009, 10:24 AM)

Posting once really isn't that difficult either. Just sayin..........
Obviously.
fryer98
Tuesday, February 3rd, 2009, 8:55 AM
QUOTE (Jadaki @ Tuesday, February 3rd, 2009, 11:39 AM)

Obviously.
I'm glad you got that joke.
Balloon guy
Tuesday, February 3rd, 2009, 9:05 AM
Wouldn't 'karma' only apply if you made a deposit into the old lady's account?
Not stealing shouldn't bring up 'karma' since the expected return would be someone doesn't steal from you, which you would never know that it happened, because they didn't do it.
Of course I don't believe in 'karma' because that comes from eastern religious mumbo jumbo, based on nothing but random speculation of a judgement on your actions being applied upon death in order to fit you into your next life cycle, which is lame-o.
I do however believe in the Golden Rule of doing unto others as you would have them do unto you. Which you did upon that lady. Winning money had more to do with your poker skills than your moral decision.
RickyG033
Tuesday, February 3rd, 2009, 10:53 AM
QUOTE (dolfan @ Tuesday, February 3rd, 2009, 9:28 AM)

Those are way more common in my area than the ones that keep your card until you're finished.
I cant even remember the last time I used one that kept your card. May be my area though...
pezeveng
Tuesday, February 3rd, 2009, 11:01 AM
QUOTE (Balloon guy @ Tuesday, February 3rd, 2009, 9:05 AM)

Wouldn't 'karma' only apply if you made a deposit into the old lady's account?
Not stealing shouldn't bring up 'karma' since the expected return would be someone doesn't steal from you, which you would never know that it happened, because they didn't do it.
Of course I don't believe in 'karma' because that comes from eastern religious mumbo jumbo, based on nothing but random speculation of a judgement on your actions being applied upon death in order to fit you into your next life cycle, which is lame-o.
I do however believe in the Golden Rule of doing unto others as you would have them do unto you. Which you did upon that lady. Winning money had more to do with your poker skills than your moral decision.
Yes I was at the casino and all the money the casino had stolen from me was returned back to me. Not only that but the casino did not steal the money back either. I consider the dealer getting a 5 on a 16 while I have a 20 is stealing from me. This did not happen the rest of the night.
I thought that you were smarter than this BG and can think outside the box. Its a complicated way of thinking but you will eventually get there.
vbnautilus
Tuesday, February 3rd, 2009, 11:34 AM
QUOTE (Balloon guy @ Tuesday, February 3rd, 2009, 9:05 AM)

Wouldn't 'karma' only apply if you made a deposit into the old lady's account?
Not stealing shouldn't bring up 'karma' since the expected return would be someone doesn't steal from you, which you would never know that it happened, because they didn't do it.
Of course I don't believe in 'karma' because that comes from eastern religious mumbo jumbo, based on nothing but random speculation of a judgement on your actions being applied upon death in order to fit you into your next life cycle, which is lame-o.
I do however believe in the Golden Rule of doing unto others as you would have them do unto you. Which you did upon that lady. Winning money had more to do with your poker skills than your moral decision.
Not necessarily.
If he was feeling good about himself due to making that decision, it could translate to confidence at the tables. Alternatively he could have brought back the attitude that he was entitled to that money and played more aggressively due to that. Every decision we make affects us. That's the point of 'karma'. His next life is the one at the poker table.
chrozzo
Tuesday, February 3rd, 2009, 6:36 PM
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