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Arsenic
The fix is in on this one. Just wanted to let all of you know the final score of the game. You can thank me later. icon_cool.gif
king1305
Good one.
wsox8
QUOTE (Arsenic @ Sunday, January 25th, 2009, 9:24 PM) *
The fix is in on this one. Just wanted to let all of you know the final score of the game. You can thank me later. icon_cool.gif

I hate you and your people
slink
Can I get $25 that that is NOT the final score?
SGFULTON83
QUOTE (Arsenic @ Sunday, January 25th, 2009, 10:24 PM) *
The fix is in on this one. Just wanted to let all of you know the final score of the game. You can thank me later. icon_cool.gif


Now I have no reason to watch the game, thanks alot. Oh wait, we still have the commercials.
trussdude
I think Arizona will win the game.
SGFULTON83
QUOTE (trussdude @ Monday, January 26th, 2009, 1:16 PM) *
I think Arizona will win the game.


I hope you are correct.
dEv~
QUOTE (trussdude @ Monday, January 26th, 2009, 1:16 PM) *
I think Arizona will win the game.


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Oziumrules
QUOTE (trussdude @ Monday, January 26th, 2009, 1:16 PM) *
I think Arizona will win the game.



You and Nutz are NUTS !
trussdude
I have a friend that is selling two Club Level tickets to the game.

I know he will take $2,000 each or best offer.

Section 201, row BB

I can take a site transfer as payment.

Face value is $1,000 each.
Oziumrules
QUOTE (trussdude @ Monday, January 26th, 2009, 5:16 PM) *
I have a friend that is selling two Club Level tickets to the game.

I know he will take $2,000 each or best offer.

Section 201, row BB

I can take a site transfer as payment.

Face value is $1,000 each.



Pretty good deal for club level !
GUGA KUERTEN
I think its Steelers 20-13 icon_biggrin.gif
KowboyKoop
Cards 27-13.

Warner has God on his side.
Oziumrules
QUOTE (KowboyKoop @ Monday, January 26th, 2009, 10:10 PM) *
Cards 27-13.

Warner has God on his side.


Polamalu is a minister....he is closer to God.
custom36
QUOTE (trussdude @ Monday, January 26th, 2009, 5:16 PM) *
I have a friend that is selling two Club Level tickets to the game.

I know he will take $2,000 each or best offer.

Section 201, row BB

I can take a site transfer as payment.

Face value is $1,000 each.


I'll give him $10 per ticket.

QUOTE (KowboyKoop @ Monday, January 26th, 2009, 10:10 PM) *
Cards 27-13.

Warner has God on his side.


Yeah, but he thinks God looks like Jesus...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MiFybqLFeY
CaneBrain
Zona 23---Pitt 20
brvheart
QUOTE (CaneBrain @ Tuesday, January 27th, 2009, 10:41 PM) *
Zona 23---Pitt 20


I wouldn't have guessed this from you Cane.
donk4life
Warner and his gloves drive down the field in the fourth for the 21-17 victory.

Boldin runs to the sidelines crying because he didn't catch the superbowl winning touchdown.
CaneBrain
QUOTE (brvheart @ Wednesday, January 28th, 2009, 6:47 PM) *
I wouldn't have guessed this from you Cane.



just a hunch. cards o-line has been playing at a much higher level than expected. if that continues in the SB then I like the Cards' chances. Plus, it would be fitting for this wacky season.
brvheart
QUOTE (CaneBrain @ Wednesday, January 28th, 2009, 9:48 PM) *
just a hunch. cards o-line has been playing at a much higher level than expected. if that continues in the SB then I like the Cards' chances. Plus, it would be fitting for this wacky season.



I don't disagree. Their D has been lights out as well. (barring the 2nd half of the Philly game)


vonteego3
QUOTE (brvheart @ Wednesday, January 28th, 2009, 10:44 PM) *
I don't disagree. Their D has been lights out as well. (barring the 2nd half of the Philly game)


LOL what?
brvheart
QUOTE (vonteego3 @ Thursday, January 29th, 2009, 9:43 PM) *
LOL what?



I can only assume that you haven't watched any playoff games this year.
vonteego3
QUOTE (brvheart @ Friday, January 30th, 2009, 2:34 AM) *
I can only assume that you haven't watched any playoff games this year.


Arizona's D was mediocre at best against a rookie QB. Then Delhomme found a handful of Arizona DB's wide open. Then they blew a huge lead at Philly, only to win because of the Offense. But it's reasonable to not include the most important half of their season so far.
CaneBrain
Too....many.....people....picking....Arizona. Confidence.....wavering.


I reserve the right to change my pick before game time.
brvheart
QUOTE (vonteego3 @ Friday, January 30th, 2009, 4:32 PM) *
Arizona's D was mediocre at best against a rookie QB. Then Delhomme found a handful of Arizona DB's wide open. Then they blew a huge lead at Philly, only to win because of the Offense. But it's reasonable to not include the most important half of their season so far.


you say potatoe, I say potato.

QUOTE (CaneBrain @ Friday, January 30th, 2009, 9:35 PM) *
Too....many.....people....picking....Arizona. Confidence.....wavering.


I reserve the right to change my pick before game time.


Not too many... the line hasn't moved.
Oziumrules
QUOTE (CaneBrain @ Friday, January 30th, 2009, 10:35 PM) *
Too....many.....people....picking....Arizona. Confidence.....wavering.


I reserve the right to change my pick before game time.


Interesting read.........

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The Public typically likes taking the favorite in most sports events. However, this year's Superbowl shows the Public loving the Arizona Cardinals and their Cinderella march to the Superbowl. This is an interesting departure for the Public and shows how much “value” there might be on the Steelers. This contrarian factor of “fading” the Public points to the Steelers.

Edge: Pittsburgh Steelers

Current Betting Percentages on the Super Bowl
Pittsburg Steelers 42%
Arizona Cardinals 58%

Smart Money and Point Spread Line Movement

SportsInsights uses another indicator that we call “Smart Money Analysis.” This method is more selective but also more powerful because historically, it has had a better winning percentage than using “betting percentages” as a standalone indicator.

For the Superbowl, the “generally-available” line opened at Pittsburgh -6.5. As we saw above, early Superbowl betting has most of the bets (about 60%) coming in on the underdog Arizona Cardinals. Even with the majority of bets landing on Arizona, the line has inched up to Pittsburgh -7. This is a relatively large move in the NFL – especially near a “key number” like 7.

This means that “big money” – which is usually “smart money” – is taking the Steelers. In other words, even though most bettors are on Arizona, “big bets” on Pittsburgh are more than balancing the Public's action on Arizona. This indicator says to go along with the “smart money” and take Pittsburgh.

Edge: Pittsburgh Steelers -6.5 (Bookmaker.com)

Intangibles and Other Contrarian Angles

In addition to our “quant” or “technical” analysis of the sports marketplace (based on “betting percentages” and “line movement”), SportsInsights tries to analyze games using some approaches that resemble “fundamental analysis” in the financial markets.

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Arizona's offense has been pounding the opposition. After being one of the highest-scoring teams during the regular season, Kurt Warner and crew have rung up more than 30 points in each of their playoff match-ups. Warner and his receivers look like they are playing pick-up football against a bunch of five-year-olds! The Public loves offense and this is another reason we feel that Arizona is currently over-valued. We'll “sell” the Cardinals at a recent “high.”

During the early part of the regular season, the media focused on teams like Tennessee and both NY teams as “Superbowl favorites.” Later in the season, fans saw teams like the Eagles, the Chargers, and the Colts streak into the playoffs. Meanwhile, the Pittsburgh Steelers played “steady football” all season long and “quietly” (if you can call their defense quiet!) ran up a 12-4 record, yielding a league-low 223 points.

Some of the intangibles point to “selling” the Cardinals at a “high” and “buying” a great Steelers team that avoided being over-hyped.

Edge: Pittsburgh Steelers -6.5 (Bookmaker.com)

Quick Analysis of Recent Superbowl Scores

SportsInsights' analysts took a quick peek at recent Superbowl scores.
• 3 out of the last 5 Superbowls were settled by a FG or less.
• 4 out of the last 7 Superbowls were settled by a FG or less.
• 6 out the last 11 Superbowls were settled by a TD or less.

We normally hate giving 7 points or more (or even taking a favorite!). However, we let the numbers do the talking. And, yet again, the recent history of Superbowls (and an emphasis on shorter-term events) might be giving us some value. Over the much larger sample size of 42 Superbowl games:

• 29 out of 42 games have been settled by more than a TD.

Football fans seem to be forgetting how we used to see lopsided (and sadly, sometimes boring) Superbowls. This is giving us some value as the general Public is taking the points in this Superbowl.

Edge: Pittsburgh Steelers -6.5 (Bookmaker.com)

Overview

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Almost all of our regular angles and analysis of the “sports marketplace” point to contrarian value on the Pittsburgh Steelers. Remember to “shop for the best line” because you can still get Pittsburgh -6.5 if you check around. Does defense win Championships? We'll see in a few days.


CaneBrain
I just bet 200 bucks on the Cards to cover (+7). Cop-out bet but whatever.
Oziumrules
My Super Bowl Prediction

Steelers 23 Arizona 20
Arsenic
27-23 good ****en game
brvheart
QUOTE (CaneBrain @ Tuesday, January 27th, 2009, 10:41 PM) *
Zona 23---Pitt 20


I bet you were buzzing with :55 left. Good prediction.


QUOTE (CaneBrain @ Sunday, February 1st, 2009, 10:26 AM) *
I just bet 200 bucks on the Cards to cover (+7). Cop-out bet but whatever.



Nice score.
brvheart
QUOTE (vonteego3 @ Thursday, January 29th, 2009, 9:43 PM) *
LOL what?



QUOTE (vonteego3 @ Friday, January 30th, 2009, 4:32 PM) *
Arizona's D was mediocre at best against a rookie QB. Then Delhomme found a handful of Arizona DB's wide open. Then they blew a huge lead at Philly, only to win because of the Offense. But it's reasonable to not include the most important half of their season so far.



You still think AZ's D plays bad?
XXEddie
QUOTE (brvheart @ Monday, February 2nd, 2009, 1:07 AM) *
You still think AZ's D plays bad?


Certainly not 'Lights Out'
brvheart
QUOTE (XXEddie @ Monday, February 2nd, 2009, 3:54 AM) *
Certainly not 'Lights Out'


I disagree. They stopped Pittsburgh inside the 5 three different times.
CaneBrain
QUOTE (brvheart @ Sunday, February 1st, 2009, 8:51 PM) *
I bet you were buzzing with :55 left. Good prediction.





Nice score.



LOL. I was sitting there thinking....am I going to have FCP bragging rights? Then, I remembered that the Steelers have been scoring late all year and calmed down and sure enough Big Ben comes through again. Greedy greedy steelers. Share the Super Bowls!

Thats why you bet on the cover not the moneyline.
fryer98
QUOTE (brvheart @ Monday, February 2nd, 2009, 5:16 AM) *
I disagree. They stopped Pittsburgh inside the 5 three different times.

And they were the only team to do THAT this year.





Dripping with sarcasm, fyi.
brvheart
QUOTE (fryer98 @ Monday, February 2nd, 2009, 9:40 AM) *
And they were the only team to do THAT this year.



I don't know what this means. Either you think that it's no big deal to stop a great running team 3 times inside the 5, or you think the Steelers are bad. Either way, I'm confused.
dEv~
QUOTE (brvheart @ Monday, February 2nd, 2009, 11:30 AM) *
I don't know what this means. Either you think that it's no big deal to stop a great running team 3 times inside the 5, or you think the Steelers are bad. Either way, I'm confused.


The Steelers were not good this year on short yardage plays. Carey Davis and Gary Russell just aren't top notch players believe it or not.
Oziumrules
QUOTE (dEv~ @ Monday, February 2nd, 2009, 11:47 AM) *
The Steelers were not good this year on short yardage plays. Carey Davis and Gary Russell just aren't top notch players believe it or not.



I miss the Bus in short yardage.....
king1305
QUOTE (brvheart @ Monday, February 2nd, 2009, 11:30 AM) *
I don't know what this means. Either you think that it's no big deal to stop a great running team 3 times inside the 5, or you think the Steelers are bad. Either way, I'm confused.

Who are you talking about?

Surely not the Steelers. Not this season.
fryer98
QUOTE (brvheart @ Monday, February 2nd, 2009, 11:30 AM) *
I don't know what this means. Either you think that it's no big deal to stop a great running team 3 times inside the 5, or you think the Steelers are bad. Either way, I'm confused.

The fact that you don't know what this means shows you know little about the Steelers this year and should probably take a knee on your Super Bowl talks.
king1305
QUOTE (fryer98 @ Monday, February 2nd, 2009, 12:30 PM) *
The fact that you don't know what this means shows you know little about the Steelers this year and should probably take a knee on your Super Bowl talks.

LIKE BEN AT THE END OF THE GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oziumrules
QUOTE (brvheart @ Monday, February 2nd, 2009, 11:30 AM) *
I don't know what this means. Either you think that it's no big deal to stop a great running team 3 times inside the 5, or you think the Steelers are bad. Either way, I'm confused.


NOT. If we were a great running team why wouldnt Tomlin go for it on 4th down on the 1/2 inch line on the 1st drive of the SB? Maybe because he has seen how difficult it was ALL year to get a 4th & 1. IMO I would have gone for it, scored, and the game really would have been much easier.
brvheart
QUOTE (fryer98 @ Monday, February 2nd, 2009, 11:30 AM) *
The fact that you don't know what this means shows you know little about the Steelers this year and should probably take a knee on your Super Bowl talks.



Not following the Steelers shouldn't exclude me from talking. That's why I asked you, Fryer! I didn't understand what you were saying. I see now that they were 23rd in rushing this season, which isn't great. Thanks for the info.
fryer98
QUOTE (brvheart @ Monday, February 2nd, 2009, 1:06 PM) *
Not following the Steelers shouldn't exclude me from talking. That's why I asked you, Fryer! I didn't understand what you were saying. I see now that they were 23rd in rushing this season, which isn't great. Thanks for the info.

And near the bottom (I believe 2nd to last) in TD % in the red zone on the season.
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