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vbnautilus
QUOTE (fleung22 @ Saturday, February 7th, 2009, 7:53 AM) *
I think Jack's motivation is to save himself here...and Sayid hasn't actually shown that he 'likes' to kill people. it's always presented as a necessity for the context of the storyline.


Ben has been telling Jack that everyone on the island will die if he doesn't come back to save them, and saving people has been Jack's primary role throughout, starting from his ex-wife (and including saving ben himself with that surgery).

As for sayid, I agree they have shown him struggle from time to time with his violent "duties" but on the other hand it seems like that is just what he does and he knows it.

Theraflu
QUOTE (jeff_536 @ Saturday, February 7th, 2009, 9:17 AM) *
Ya, they did. During the episode where jack finally buried his father, she came up to him at the end, said she had a daughter by Christian and what a coincidence, she was on the plane. Jack asked her name, she said 'Claire'. And he instantly realized Aaron is his nephew.

Thanks, I wasn't sure.
fleung22
QUOTE (vbnautilus @ Sunday, February 8th, 2009, 2:01 AM) *
Ben has been telling Jack that everyone on the island will die if he doesn't come back to save them, and saving people has been Jack's primary role throughout, starting from his ex-wife (and including saving ben himself with that surgery).


That's true. But Jack already stated that he wanted to go back to the island to Kate and the timeline of that statement appears to be before the current future (judging by the facial hair).

QUOTE (vbnautilus @ Sunday, February 8th, 2009, 2:01 AM) *
As for sayid, I agree they have shown him struggle from time to time with his violent "duties" but on the other hand it seems like that is just what he does and he knows it.


Ya, he's more like the poor man's Jack Bauer.
Mercury69
Could Richard Alpert be from the Black Rock?

And did the Black Rock get so far inland on the island because it was in the wrong place at the wrong time when the island was moved at some other point in it's history?
SlapStick
QUOTE (SlapStick @ Saturday, January 24th, 2009, 11:31 PM) *
Just kill the ginger english chick already, shes screwed we get it. They will all start dropping likes flies, juliets nose will start bleeding drama etc.



ok it was probably obvious enough but its rare for me to predict anything right on Lost
Whiter Sr
QUOTE (WKTSWAY @ Friday, February 6th, 2009, 10:58 AM) *
The earlier you were on the island, the sooner your nose starts bleeding. I'm guessing because Daniel has a constant, his will not. Charlotte was on the island before anyone else, so her nose started to bleed first.

What really bothers me is that Charlotte passes out and near dies when they jumped one time but the next 2 times she is fine and feeling no aftereffects and Miles and Juliet are at the beginning stages of the bleeding. So they will near die and then be okay as well? You would think the bleeding would be progressively worse each time.
Mercury69
I'm sure they'll explain the bleeding thing better. Maybe the further away you get from your "present", the more prone you are to bleeding or something.

Being "bothered" by this simply means you don't understand it yet and THAT'S what is bothering you. Chill.
coug2828
QUOTE (Mercury69 @ Tuesday, February 10th, 2009, 1:57 PM) *
I'm sure they'll explain the bleeding thing better. Maybe the further away you get from your "present", the more prone you are to bleeding or something.

Being "bothered" by this simply means you don't understand it yet and THAT'S what is bothering you. Chill.


how could you change the picture attached to your posts? i had pretty much fallen completely in love with that ass from the "gohabsgo" picture. i'm quite saddened
Mercury69
QUOTE (coug2828 @ Tuesday, February 10th, 2009, 5:52 PM) *
how could you change the picture attached to your posts? i had pretty much fallen completely in love with that ass from the "gohabsgo" picture. i'm quite saddened



lol, thanks! SOmeone else said it was a fat chick, but I actually changed it because it was too viewable at my work...You have no idea how many sigs I have to scoot by to keep my surfing safe.
jeff_536
QUOTE (Mercury69 @ Wednesday, February 11th, 2009, 9:50 AM) *
lol, thanks! SOmeone else said it was a fat chick, but I actually changed it because it was too viewable at my work...You have no idea how many sigs I have to scoot by to keep my surfing safe.


you know you can turn sigs off, right?
troyomac
Just rewatched last week's episode, it wasn't that bad. I really really hope they get away from time travelling every 10 minutes soon though, and all the nosebleed crap is pretty annoying.
Speed Limit
QUOTE (troyomac @ Wednesday, February 11th, 2009, 8:56 PM) *
Just rewatched last week's episode, it wasn't that bad. I really really hope they get away from time travelling every 10 minutes soon though, and all the nosebleed crap is pretty annoying.



Not this week LOL
troyomac
QUOTE (Speed Limit @ Wednesday, February 11th, 2009, 6:55 PM) *
Not this week LOL

Lol, sigh
LongLiveYorke
QUOTE (troyomac @ Wednesday, February 11th, 2009, 10:12 PM) *
Lol, sigh



But that's over with now. Locke put the wheel back in place that was spinning randomly and sending them through time.


Next week's episode looks awesome. These first few episodes have been building up to it, I feel. Tonight's was great too, and the monster stuff was pretty cool.


What's the story with Rousseau's boyfriend trying to shoot her after being in the monster's cavern? Does the monster have the ability to take over people's minds? Or does it have the ability to completely impersonate people ala "Prey," the Michael Crichton book?

Interesting stuff.
vbnautilus
QUOTE (LongLiveYorke @ Wednesday, February 11th, 2009, 8:44 PM) *
But that's over with now. Locke put the wheel back in place that was spinning randomly and sending them through time.


Next week's episode looks awesome. These first few episodes have been building up to it, I feel. Tonight's was great too, and the monster stuff was pretty cool.


What's the story with Rousseau's boyfriend trying to shoot her after being in the monster's cavern? Does the monster have the ability to take over people's minds? Or does it have the ability to completely impersonate people ala "Prey," the Michael Crichton book?

Interesting stuff.


I always thought that monster represented people's 'dark side'. So in this view, if that monster took him over it would be like him becoming the worst version of himself.

Interesting that this was the "sickness" rousseau had always referred to?
LongLiveYorke
QUOTE (vbnautilus @ Thursday, February 12th, 2009, 4:05 AM) *
I always thought that monster represented people's 'dark side'. So in this view, if that monster took him over it would be like him becoming the worst version of himself.

Interesting that this was the "sickness" rousseau had always referred to?



Could it also be what Desmond's predecessor was referring to when was living in the hatch and pushing the button?
Speed Limit
Also we see that Ben isn't REALLY Alex's father, not too sure if we already knew this, but I had it in my mind that he was due to him getting all emo after she died.
checkymcfold
QUOTE (vbnautilus @ Thursday, February 12th, 2009, 4:05 AM) *
I always thought that monster represented people's 'dark side'. So in this view, if that monster took him over it would be like him becoming the worst version of himself.

Interesting that this was the "sickness" rousseau had always referred to?



i think this is right, and would explain why some characters (eko) can stare the bitch down, but most people just die.


i didn't think it was possible, but i like ben's character more just about every time he speaks. by the time this show is over, i'm pretty sure i'll consider him the best tv character of all time. i don't even think that's hyperbole.
Mercury69
QUOTE (checkymcfold @ Thursday, February 12th, 2009, 4:34 PM) *
i think this is right, and would explain why some characters (eko) can stare the bitch down, but most people just die.


i didn't think it was possible, but i like ben's character more just about every time he speaks. by the time this show is over, i'm pretty sure i'll consider him the best tv character of all time. i don't even think that's hyperbole.



I miss Mr Eko. He was an excellent character.
El Guapo
QUOTE (Speed Limit @ Thursday, February 12th, 2009, 12:54 PM) *
Also we see that Ben isn't REALLY Alex's father, not too sure if we already knew this, but I had it in my mind that he was due to him getting all emo after she died.


No, we have pretty much always known. Russo in season 1 or 2 said she was pregnant when she got to the island then the others took her baby.
vbnautilus
QUOTE (Speed Limit @ Thursday, February 12th, 2009, 12:54 PM) *
Also we see that Ben isn't REALLY Alex's father, not too sure if we already knew this, but I had it in my mind that he was due to him getting all emo after she died.


QUOTE (El Guapo @ Thursday, February 12th, 2009, 2:57 PM) *
No, we have pretty much always known. Russo in season 1 or 2 said she was pregnant when she got to the island then the others took her baby.


Hang on, how do we know Ben is not the father, because that french guy thinks he is the father?
Speed Limit
QUOTE (vbnautilus @ Thursday, February 12th, 2009, 10:19 PM) *
Hang on, how do we know Ben is not the father, because that french guy thinks he is the father?


I would assume so, also attributing those two lines or so about the baby's name, but of course can't really assume too much with this show and something else might certainly be up.
van patrickson
QUOTE (vbnautilus @ Thursday, February 12th, 2009, 10:19 PM) *
Hang on, how do we know Ben is not the father, because that french guy thinks he is the father?

What do you mean by thinks? The french crew stumbled onto the island accidentally I think, Ben just kind of adopted Alex, the same way he incorporated all the other children into the group.

I'm not sure it's possible for Ben to have banged the good-looking Rousseau when she was in France.
vbnautilus
QUOTE (van patrickson @ Thursday, February 12th, 2009, 8:35 PM) *
I'm not sure it's possible for Ben to have banged the good-looking Rousseau when she was in France.


Oh, it's possible. Faraday appears to be the father of someone his own age; with all this time/space travel anything is possible.
ltrainkoja55
QUOTE (checkymcfold @ Thursday, February 12th, 2009, 1:34 PM) *
i think this is right, and would explain why some characters (eko) can stare the bitch down, but most people just die.


i didn't think it was possible, but i like ben's character more just about every time he speaks. by the time this show is over, i'm pretty sure i'll consider him the best tv character of all time. i don't even think that's hyperbole.


I could not agree more. Ben is so complex!

Could someone please clue me in to why people think charlotte is faraday's daughter? I do not get this. They kissed on the lips. I truly hope this does not turn out to be the truth.

One last thing-- did this week's episode have a commercial every five minutes? It seemed like the breaks were overkill!
looshle
QUOTE (vbnautilus @ Thursday, February 12th, 2009, 1:05 AM) *
I always thought that monster represented people's 'dark side'. So in this view, if that monster took him over it would be like him becoming the worst version of himself.

Interesting that this was the "sickness" rousseau had always referred to?



There were 2 bodies of the french guy she shot dead on the beach that Jin had found before he ran into her. I'm assuming the one we saw her shoot was not the first.
Theraflu
QUOTE (vbnautilus @ Thursday, February 12th, 2009, 11:39 PM) *
Oh, it's possible. Faraday appears to be the father of someone his own age; with all this time/space travel anything is possible.

That was me posting under my friends name...possible certainly wasn't the word I wanted to use, since it'd be hard to rule out anything at this point, but probable should suit my fancy.

Also, after Charlotte stating that Faraday was the one who told her that she would die if she ever came back to island, that kind of rules him out as being her father, under the assumption that she would recognize her father, since she remembered what he told her.

But then...with the way that he can create memories, maybe not? With Desmond he had a "dream" that was actually a memory, so...who the fuck knows. I don't think he's her father though.
vbnautilus
QUOTE (Theraflu @ Friday, February 13th, 2009, 12:14 PM) *
That was me posting under my friends name...possible certainly wasn't the word I wanted to use, since it'd be hard to rule out anything at this point, but probable should suit my fancy.

Also, after Charlotte stating that Faraday was the one who told her that she would die if she ever came back to island, that kind of rules him out as being her father, under the assumption that she would recognize her father, since she remembered what he told her.

But then...with the way that he can create memories, maybe not? With Desmond he had a "dream" that was actually a memory, so...who the fuck knows. I don't think he's her father though.


I guess I liked that theory because Faraday stated quite clearly that he loved her, but it didn't really seem like a romantic love. I thought her story was that her father left when she was very young.
Theraflu
QUOTE (vbnautilus @ Friday, February 13th, 2009, 1:38 PM) *
I guess I liked that theory because Faraday stated quite clearly that he loved her, but it didn't really seem like a romantic love. I thought her story was that her father left when she was very young.

I liked the theory too, and agree with how he said he loved her, but I'm just assuming she'd recognize her father or whatever.

It was nice to see someone mildly important die (that sounds lovely) after all the deaths/near deaths last year, although her character was very useful, and we definitely didn't get all of her information.

Next week looks beyond fantastic.
troyomac
Whaaaaaaaaaaat?
ltrainkoja55
I must have screamed five times open the damn letter!

I am confused how Hurley got out of Jail. I guess they pinned it on Sayid. Also how did Hurley know of the plane? I guess when Kate left jack she did a little recruiting.

Where the hell is Arron--- UGH!

How awesome was Ben tonight! Ms. Hawking calling him out as a liar was priceless!
FARGOpokerND
QUOTE (ltrainkoja55 @ Thursday, February 19th, 2009, 12:34 AM) *
I must have screamed five times open the damn letter!

I am confused how Hurley got out of Jail. I guess they pinned it on Sayid. Also how did Hurley know of the plane? I guess when Kate left jack she did a little recruiting.

Where the hell is Arron--- UGH!

How awesome was Ben tonight! Ms. Hawking calling him out as a liar was priceless!

Who was that other guy in 1st class with the other people going back to the island??? My girlfriend said she recognized him but couldn't think of where, and she is usually very good with faces.

Ben is simply the best TV character on any show out there.
Mercury69
"We're not going to Guam, are we?"
El Guapo
Good episode. I really hope they explain how they appeared on the island, I don't like the whole 'magic' aspect of it.
jeff_536
Wow, you all seem surprised that an episode of Lost has left things mysterious and unexplained. Of course they'll explain those things to us, they'll just do it on their own schedule.
loogie
QUOTE (FARGOpokerND @ Thursday, February 19th, 2009, 1:22 AM) *
Who was that other guy in 1st class with the other people going back to the island??? My girlfriend said she recognized him but couldn't think of where, and she is usually very good with faces.

From House of Saddam.

EDIT -- Wait. Three Kings. The interrogator, appropriately enough. He might have been in House of Saddam. I'll have to look that up.
vbnautilus
QUOTE (El Guapo @ Thursday, February 19th, 2009, 8:04 AM) *
Good episode. I really hope they explain how they appeared on the island, I don't like the whole 'magic' aspect of it.


Looks to me like they got caught in one the time flashes.
El Guapo
QUOTE (vbnautilus @ Thursday, February 19th, 2009, 1:40 PM) *
Looks to me like they got caught in one the time flashes.



Right, but they were at 30,000 feet. How did they get teleported to the ground with out exploding?
jeff_536
My big question is what happens to Ben. I thought they made it very clear that the person who moved the island could NEVER return.
Whiter Sr
QUOTE (jeff_536 @ Thursday, February 19th, 2009, 3:49 PM) *
My big question is what happens to Ben. I thought they made it very clear that the person who moved the island could NEVER return.

Hopefully he's gone. I am not a fan, unlike the rest of you here.

I am interested in who kicked the crap out of Ben before the flight.
Theraflu
QUOTE (Whiter Sr @ Thursday, February 19th, 2009, 3:01 PM) *
Hopefully he's gone. I am not a fan, unlike the rest of you here.

I am interested in who kicked the crap out of Ben before the flight.

One my friends thought he might have killed Penny.
El Guapo
QUOTE (Theraflu @ Thursday, February 19th, 2009, 3:51 PM) *
One my friends thought he might have killed Penny.



My wife thought it was either Penny's dad (can't remember his name).
El Guapo
Could everyone stop calling Dr. Chase, Jeff? Thanks.
coug2828
i wonder how they'll bring Walt back into the fold. he's like the anti-richard alpert, every time they show him he's aged 2 years.
Theraflu
QUOTE (El Guapo @ Thursday, February 19th, 2009, 4:04 PM) *
My wife thought it was either Penny's dad (can't remember his name).

I don't think it would be Widmore, he's too important. Ben could have just killed him when he snuck into his house/condo thing when he was sleeping last season.

I think Widmore needs to be alive for lots of reasons.
Whiter Sr
QUOTE (Theraflu @ Thursday, February 19th, 2009, 4:51 PM) *
One my friends thought he might have killed Penny.

Would make sense.
He vowed to kill her once Widmore killed his daughter.
Theraflu
QUOTE (Whiter Sr @ Thursday, February 19th, 2009, 6:05 PM) *
Would make sense.
He vowed to kill her once Widmore killed his daughter.

Ah, I forgot about that. That would be pretty hardcore, and Desmond would go nuts.

This shows the best.
jkalib
QUOTE (FARGOpokerND @ Thursday, February 19th, 2009, 2:22 AM) *
Who was that other guy in 1st class with the other people going back to the island??? My girlfriend said she recognized him but couldn't think of where, and she is usually very good with faces.

Ben is simply the best TV character on any show out there.


He was the terrorist lead in Traitor. He's been in a lot of movies. Based on that I think he is going to be a recurring character - if that was it they would have gotten a nobody.
ltrainkoja55
QUOTE (Theraflu @ Thursday, February 19th, 2009, 8:11 PM) *
Ah, I forgot about that. That would be pretty hardcore, and Desmond would go nuts.

This shows the best.


I think Desmond did go nuts. I imagine Ben's injuries are from Desmond. He probably attacked Ben after he killed Penny.
FARGOpokerND
QUOTE (loogie @ Thursday, February 19th, 2009, 2:20 PM) *
From House of Saddam.

EDIT -- Wait. Three Kings. The interrogator, appropriately enough. He might have been in House of Saddam. I'll have to look that up.



QUOTE (jkalib @ Thursday, February 19th, 2009, 10:27 PM) *
He was the terrorist lead in Traitor. He's been in a lot of movies. Based on that I think he is going to be a recurring character - if that was it they would have gotten a nobody.

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