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Mercury69
PokerStars Game #24132436339: Tournament #134680777, $8.00+$0.80 Hold'em No Limit - Level XVIII (2500/5000) - 2009/01/21 14:50:21 ET
Table '134680777 114' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: campske (86926 in chips)
Seat 2: Bumpers251 (68008 in chips)
Seat 3: rosiMHL (133521 in chips)
Seat 4: xMercury69x (167496 in chips)
Seat 5: DickieBets (15087 in chips)
Seat 6: teonzo (195885 in chips)
Seat 7: turbohead (18847 in chips)
Seat 8: kidlat88 (82611 in chips)
Seat 9: Tribez_11 (190000 in chips)
campske: posts the ante 500
Bumpers251: posts the ante 500
rosiMHL: posts the ante 500
xMercury69x: posts the ante 500
DickieBets: posts the ante 500
teonzo: posts the ante 500
turbohead: posts the ante 500
kidlat88: posts the ante 500
Tribez_11: posts the ante 500
rosiMHL: posts small blind 2500
xMercury69x: posts big blind 5000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to xMercury69x [8s 8c]
DickieBets: raises 9587 to 14587 and is all-in
teonzo: raises 180798 to 195385 and is all-in
turbohead: folds
kidlat88: folds
Tribez_11: folds
campske: folds
Bumpers251: folds
rosiMHL: folds
xMercury69x: ???

Results in white:

folds
Uncalled bet (180798) returned to teonzo
*** FLOP *** [7h Js 2d]
*** TURN *** [7h Js 2d] [Qd]
*** RIVER *** [7h Js 2d Qd] [3h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
DickieBets: shows [4d 5d] (high card Queen)
teonzo: shows [Kc As] (high card Ace)
teonzo collected 41174 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 41174 | Rake 0
Board [7h Js 2d Qd 3h]
Seat 1: campske folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Bumpers251 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: rosiMHL (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: xMercury69x (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: DickieBets showed [4d 5d] and lost with high card Queen
Seat 6: teonzo showed [Kc As] and won (41174) with high card Ace
Seat 7: turbohead folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: kidlat88 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Tribez_11 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Gallo
ez fold imo
outsider13
I'd fold this spot too. I think you have to put the isolation shove on at least 77+ and AT+. Maybe a bit wider because of him isolating such a small stack. I think at best you are marginally ahead in this spot and it's not worth it to gamble with a pretty decent stack.
TrueAce13
Plz convert hand, but yeah, easy fold
HighwayStar
Probably closer than you think, but yea I think I fold.
BeaverStyle
I'd put the iso-raiser on 77+, AQo+.... about the same as outsider said. Seems like a spew to call off a ~30 bb stack from the bb w/ 88.

MovingIn
The only way I consider calling is if the big stack had played fairly loose pre, was kind of running the table over, and I knew he would shove here with a wide range that 88 had a significant equity edge over. But this is an easy fold otherwise. Few big stacks would shove here with another big stack in the blinds without a big pair or AK. You're probably either racing or crushed by a bigger pair here.
SGFULTON83
QUOTE (Mercury69 @ Wednesday, January 21st, 2009, 2:54 PM) *
PokerStars Game #24132436339: Tournament #134680777, $8.00+$0.80 Hold'em No Limit - Level XVIII (2500/5000) - 2009/01/21 14:50:21 ET
Table '134680777 114' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: campske (86926 in chips)
Seat 2: Bumpers251 (68008 in chips)
Seat 3: rosiMHL (133521 in chips)
Seat 4: xMercury69x (167496 in chips)
Seat 5: DickieBets (15087 in chips)
Seat 6: teonzo (195885 in chips)
Seat 7: turbohead (18847 in chips)
Seat 8: kidlat88 (82611 in chips)
Seat 9: Tribez_11 (190000 in chips)
campske: posts the ante 500
Bumpers251: posts the ante 500
rosiMHL: posts the ante 500
xMercury69x: posts the ante 500
DickieBets: posts the ante 500
teonzo: posts the ante 500
turbohead: posts the ante 500
kidlat88: posts the ante 500
Tribez_11: posts the ante 500
rosiMHL: posts small blind 2500
xMercury69x: posts big blind 5000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to xMercury69x [8s 8c]
DickieBets: raises 9587 to 14587 and is all-in
teonzo: raises 180798 to 195385 and is all-in
turbohead: folds
kidlat88: folds
Tribez_11: folds
campske: folds
Bumpers251: folds
rosiMHL: folds
xMercury69x: ???

Results in white:

folds
Uncalled bet (180798) returned to teonzo
*** FLOP *** [7h Js 2d]
*** TURN *** [7h Js 2d] [Qd]
*** RIVER *** [7h Js 2d Qd] [3h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
DickieBets: shows [4d 5d] (high card Queen)
teonzo: shows [Kc As] (high card Ace)
teonzo collected 41174 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 41174 | Rake 0
Board [7h Js 2d Qd 3h]
Seat 1: campske folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Bumpers251 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: rosiMHL (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: xMercury69x (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: DickieBets showed [4d 5d] and lost with high card Queen
Seat 6: teonzo showed [Kc As] and won (41174) with high card Ace
Seat 7: turbohead folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: kidlat88 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Tribez_11 folded before Flop (didn't bet)


Easy laydown this deep facing this action, best case scenario would be a flip and even if you get that our stack is too big to be risking it with a mid-pair.
bahlgren342
I would fold. Easy call in my opinion versus the first short stack raise, but the reraise is showing he's got a good pocket pair most likely 10's or higher, or AK if he's pushing for his near 200k stack . Of course your a tad favorite versus AK, but nows now the time to risk your nice stack on a coin flip.
I_fold08
it's amazing how often that raiser has AK in that spot, with that said it's a fold all day long
bahlgren342
QUOTE (I_fold08 @ Thursday, January 22nd, 2009, 11:25 AM) *
it's amazing how often that raiser has AK in that spot, with that said it's a fold all day long


Yeah amazing how often people overplay AK. They watch too much ESPN poker. wink.gif
Tehtoe
QUOTE (bahlgren342 @ Thursday, January 22nd, 2009, 1:46 PM) *
Yeah amazing how often people overplay AK. They watch too much ESPN poker. wink.gif


lol...
outsider13
QUOTE (Tehtoe @ Thursday, January 22nd, 2009, 1:54 PM) *
lol...

!
Gallo
QUOTE (Tehtoe @ Thursday, January 22nd, 2009, 1:54 PM) *
lol...

...lol
MovingIn
QUOTE (bahlgren342 @ Thursday, January 22nd, 2009, 11:46 AM) *
Yeah amazing how often people overplay AK. They watch too much ESPN poker. wink.gif


Yeah play them more like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99-jcla0MHc
bahlgren342
QUOTE (MovingIn @ Thursday, January 22nd, 2009, 10:21 PM) *
Yeah play them more like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99-jcla0MHc


LOL that was my favorite moment. I love watching Hellmuth. I want to be the one to make him that mad one day.
DonkSlayer
I think it's profitable to play AK very aggressively PF against all but the best competition.
Mercury69
Thx for the responses, folks. For those who haven't visited this thread and like to be surprised, I will refrain from commenting on the result (in the original post in white)
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