Mercury69
Wednesday, January 21st, 2009, 11:54 AM
PokerStars Game #24132436339: Tournament #134680777, $8.00+$0.80 Hold'em No Limit - Level XVIII (2500/5000) - 2009/01/21 14:50:21 ET
Table '134680777 114' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: campske (86926 in chips)
Seat 2: Bumpers251 (68008 in chips)
Seat 3: rosiMHL (133521 in chips)
Seat 4: xMercury69x (167496 in chips)
Seat 5: DickieBets (15087 in chips)
Seat 6: teonzo (195885 in chips)
Seat 7: turbohead (18847 in chips)
Seat 8: kidlat88 (82611 in chips)
Seat 9: Tribez_11 (190000 in chips)
campske: posts the ante 500
Bumpers251: posts the ante 500
rosiMHL: posts the ante 500
xMercury69x: posts the ante 500
DickieBets: posts the ante 500
teonzo: posts the ante 500
turbohead: posts the ante 500
kidlat88: posts the ante 500
Tribez_11: posts the ante 500
rosiMHL: posts small blind 2500
xMercury69x: posts big blind 5000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to xMercury69x [8s 8c]
DickieBets: raises 9587 to 14587 and is all-in
teonzo: raises 180798 to 195385 and is all-in
turbohead: folds
kidlat88: folds
Tribez_11: folds
campske: folds
Bumpers251: folds
rosiMHL: folds
xMercury69x: ???
Results in white:
folds
Uncalled bet (180798) returned to teonzo
*** FLOP *** [7h Js 2d]
*** TURN *** [7h Js 2d] [Qd]
*** RIVER *** [7h Js 2d Qd] [3h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
DickieBets: shows [4d 5d] (high card Queen)
teonzo: shows [Kc As] (high card Ace)
teonzo collected 41174 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 41174 | Rake 0
Board [7h Js 2d Qd 3h]
Seat 1: campske folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Bumpers251 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: rosiMHL (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: xMercury69x (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: DickieBets showed [4d 5d] and lost with high card Queen
Seat 6: teonzo showed [Kc As] and won (41174) with high card Ace
Seat 7: turbohead folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: kidlat88 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Tribez_11 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Gallo
Wednesday, January 21st, 2009, 12:07 PM
ez fold imo
outsider13
Wednesday, January 21st, 2009, 12:11 PM
I'd fold this spot too. I think you have to put the isolation shove on at least 77+ and AT+. Maybe a bit wider because of him isolating such a small stack. I think at best you are marginally ahead in this spot and it's not worth it to gamble with a pretty decent stack.
TrueAce13
Wednesday, January 21st, 2009, 12:12 PM
Plz convert hand, but yeah, easy fold
HighwayStar
Wednesday, January 21st, 2009, 12:41 PM
Probably closer than you think, but yea I think I fold.
BeaverStyle
Wednesday, January 21st, 2009, 12:45 PM
I'd put the iso-raiser on 77+, AQo+.... about the same as outsider said. Seems like a spew to call off a ~30 bb stack from the bb w/ 88.
MovingIn
Wednesday, January 21st, 2009, 6:45 PM
The only way I consider calling is if the big stack had played fairly loose pre, was kind of running the table over, and I knew he would shove here with a wide range that 88 had a significant equity edge over. But this is an easy fold otherwise. Few big stacks would shove here with another big stack in the blinds without a big pair or AK. You're probably either racing or crushed by a bigger pair here.
SGFULTON83
Wednesday, January 21st, 2009, 7:10 PM
QUOTE (Mercury69 @ Wednesday, January 21st, 2009, 2:54 PM)

PokerStars Game #24132436339: Tournament #134680777, $8.00+$0.80 Hold'em No Limit - Level XVIII (2500/5000) - 2009/01/21 14:50:21 ET
Table '134680777 114' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: campske (86926 in chips)
Seat 2: Bumpers251 (68008 in chips)
Seat 3: rosiMHL (133521 in chips)
Seat 4: xMercury69x (167496 in chips)
Seat 5: DickieBets (15087 in chips)
Seat 6: teonzo (195885 in chips)
Seat 7: turbohead (18847 in chips)
Seat 8: kidlat88 (82611 in chips)
Seat 9: Tribez_11 (190000 in chips)
campske: posts the ante 500
Bumpers251: posts the ante 500
rosiMHL: posts the ante 500
xMercury69x: posts the ante 500
DickieBets: posts the ante 500
teonzo: posts the ante 500
turbohead: posts the ante 500
kidlat88: posts the ante 500
Tribez_11: posts the ante 500
rosiMHL: posts small blind 2500
xMercury69x: posts big blind 5000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to xMercury69x [8s 8c]
DickieBets: raises 9587 to 14587 and is all-in
teonzo: raises 180798 to 195385 and is all-in
turbohead: folds
kidlat88: folds
Tribez_11: folds
campske: folds
Bumpers251: folds
rosiMHL: folds
xMercury69x: ???
Results in white:
folds
Uncalled bet (180798) returned to teonzo
*** FLOP *** [7h Js 2d]
*** TURN *** [7h Js 2d] [Qd]
*** RIVER *** [7h Js 2d Qd] [3h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
DickieBets: shows [4d 5d] (high card Queen)
teonzo: shows [Kc As] (high card Ace)
teonzo collected 41174 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 41174 | Rake 0
Board [7h Js 2d Qd 3h]
Seat 1: campske folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Bumpers251 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: rosiMHL (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: xMercury69x (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: DickieBets showed [4d 5d] and lost with high card Queen
Seat 6: teonzo showed [Kc As] and won (41174) with high card Ace
Seat 7: turbohead folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: kidlat88 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Tribez_11 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Easy laydown this deep facing this action, best case scenario would be a flip and even if you get that our stack is too big to be risking it with a mid-pair.
bahlgren342
Thursday, January 22nd, 2009, 12:46 AM
I would fold. Easy call in my opinion versus the first short stack raise, but the reraise is showing he's got a good pocket pair most likely 10's or higher, or AK if he's pushing for his near 200k stack . Of course your a tad favorite versus AK, but nows now the time to risk your nice stack on a coin flip.
I_fold08
Thursday, January 22nd, 2009, 9:25 AM
it's amazing how often that raiser has AK in that spot, with that said it's a fold all day long
bahlgren342
Thursday, January 22nd, 2009, 11:46 AM
QUOTE (I_fold08 @ Thursday, January 22nd, 2009, 11:25 AM)

it's amazing how often that raiser has AK in that spot, with that said it's a fold all day long
Yeah amazing how often people overplay AK. They watch too much ESPN poker.
Tehtoe
Thursday, January 22nd, 2009, 11:54 AM
QUOTE (bahlgren342 @ Thursday, January 22nd, 2009, 1:46 PM)

Yeah amazing how often people overplay AK. They watch too much ESPN poker.

lol...
outsider13
Thursday, January 22nd, 2009, 1:54 PM
QUOTE (Tehtoe @ Thursday, January 22nd, 2009, 1:54 PM)

lol...
!
Gallo
Thursday, January 22nd, 2009, 2:11 PM
QUOTE (Tehtoe @ Thursday, January 22nd, 2009, 1:54 PM)

lol...
...lol
MovingIn
Thursday, January 22nd, 2009, 8:21 PM
QUOTE (bahlgren342 @ Thursday, January 22nd, 2009, 11:46 AM)

Yeah amazing how often people overplay AK. They watch too much ESPN poker.

Yeah play them more like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99-jcla0MHc
bahlgren342
Thursday, January 22nd, 2009, 9:43 PM
QUOTE (MovingIn @ Thursday, January 22nd, 2009, 10:21 PM)

LOL that was my favorite moment. I love watching Hellmuth. I want to be the one to make him that mad one day.
DonkSlayer
Friday, January 23rd, 2009, 8:22 AM
I think it's profitable to play AK very aggressively PF against all but the best competition.
Mercury69
Sunday, January 25th, 2009, 10:07 AM
Thx for the responses, folks. For those who haven't visited this thread and like to be surprised, I will refrain from commenting on the result (in the original post in white)
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