No-Limit Hold'em, $100.00 BB (9 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP2 was about 30/6 through 20 hands


saw flop

UTG+1 ($7955)
MP1 ($13610)
MP2 ($9650)
MP3 ($1605)
CO ($3205)
Button ($5990)
SB ($2510)
BB ($3485)
Hero (UTG) ($6595)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K, K
Hero raises $300, 2 folds, MP2 calls $300, 1 fold, CO calls $300, 3 folds

Flop: ($1050) 4, 4, Q (3 players)
Hero bets $750, MP2 calls $750, 1 fold

Turn: ($2550) Q (2 players)
Hero ????

Check...
if you bet and are reraised here I don't see how you can muster a call...
When he bets 1500-1800 we should call and see the River...
He can show up here with anything between 99-JJ...
He also could turn over AA pretty easily...

Either way a check call turn check call river is going to cost you the minimum

I disagree. Check/calling gives us no way of figuring out if we are ahead. Pretty much any hand ahead of us is betting this turn and 90% of rivers. Whereas hands that we beat MAY bet the turn and probably wont bet the river unless they improve.



I bet 1200 here. If he calls, I would check any river other than a K or Q. If he fires on a non-club river you have a decision to make.

qft also fold to a raise

Bet 1/2 pot and we should get all the information we are looking for here.

Agreed with leading the turn; all draws will disappear and boats will shove.

Sometimes I play a flop like this passively for pot control since I'm wa/wb and it's tougher to play in that scenario OOP.

DN talks about the Chan Play: seeing where you're at in an iffy spot by c/c'ing the flop and leading the turn. This is one of those spots where, if you feel you must c/c the flop, the Chan Play could work. But that's the only reason I would c/c this flop: to see where we're at on the turn. I'm not in favor of c/c'ing in hopes of a cheap showdown because we're not getting it if anyone has us beat.