If you could start a franchise with any one NFL player who would it be?

I got to go with All Day Peterson.

Ed Reed, Troy Polamalu, or Bob Sanders.

Runningbacks are a dime a dozen and have short life spans.

Obv Tom Brady if healthy.

you win the game at the line of scrimmage so I'd pick someone who affects that part of the game. probably on Defense because you look at someone like Albert Haynesworth and the affect he's had. And, you know the truth is defense wins championships. I won't pick a specific player since I don't know who the best are and age and contracts etc and the rest of the drafting process after everyone picks their one player. If we only get one player then I'd go with Pacman because he'd just put out a contract on his opponent. Plus he's got tons of "incidents" with the law but no arrests or convictions (or he did before) so you know he's smart about not getting caught.

BILL PARCELLS

Ed Reed.

Troy Polamalu

Past or present?

Retired- Dan Marino

Active- Peyton Manning

Tim Tebow.

or

Steve Hutchinson.

obviously pulling our leg with that list

ray lewis, maybe bob sanders (if he can stay healthy)

Assuming this were done fantasy draft style: Joe Thomas or Ryan Clady. I'd build around a strong offensive and defensive line and look to get a mid-tier QB like Cutler later in the draft.

Ray Lewis is 33. You would not start a franchise around him.


hmmmm....idk. Ya, left tackle is about as important as it gets, and these are two great candidates, but I can't see passin up any one of the safeties I mentioned earlier.

i was absolutely not pulling your leg.

safeties aren't as important as a DT or DE imo, a great pass rush and great run D helps the D so much. look at the vikings. they have probably the best D-line in football, and get by with probably the worst secondary.

The way the game has evolved/is evolving, the best safeties aren't just safeties. They're a hybrid safety/corner/linebacker who can zone cover deep over the top, man up, stop the run, lay people out, etc.

but they cant do any of that without a dt that commands the middle of the line.

Well obviously every position needs to work together in order for the team as a whole to be successful.

well yeah, but it all starts with the line is the basis of my thesis.

If not Ed Reed or Troy P., I would have to go with... Haloti Ngata. One of the best DTs in the league in only his 3rd year out of Oregon. You can lock up the center of your defensive line for years to come starting with him. If not him then perhaps Patrick Willis from the 49ers. A great young middle linebacker that seems to be in on nearly every defensive play. Reed would basically be the oldest age of player I would be looking for to start a franchise around, as you want someone who can play for you for a number of years. Likewise, if you are going with somone who has been in the league 6 or 7 seasons, you want to make sure it is someone who directs their particular unit (hence Reed or Troy). Peyton, while undoubtedly one of the best QBs in the game today, already has 11 seasons under his belt and so I would pass him over.

I share the same theory.

Don't get me wrong. Reed and Polamalu would be the pinnacle of any defense but I feel that a team is best formed around the O-Line and D-Line. Win the trench battles = win the football game.

Linebackers are useless without a great D line to keep the linemen off of them.

Running backs and quarterbacks are useless without a lineman to open holes and protect them.


tough to say who the best individual o-lineman is because it's all predicated on working in unison, as the Giants showed. No stand out studs but a great group as a whole.

Walter Jones was awesome as was Jonathon Ogden

Right now? Jake Long is a good start.

Spoken like a former lineman and Dolphins fan.

I'll go with this. I'm sure he was a player at some point.

Kurt Warner

Am I missing some hidden SW here?

Be careful, Kurt Warner will strike you dead if he so chooses.

FYP. Kurt Warner just happens to be fortunate enough to be the QB throwing the ball to him.

But seriously, I would not be starting a franchise with a QB that has 2, MAYBE 3 seasons worth of starting left in him.

First off, get the fuck out of here with that "its all Larry FitzGerald" bullshit. Because thats what it is, bullshit. Kurt Waner makes Larry Fitzgerald. Plain and simple. Black and White. Easy as that. Larry will be out of the league five minutes after Warner ascends into heaven, guarenteed. Warners pocket presence and touch are what make Fitzgerald possible. Replace Fitzgerald with any reciever in the nfl and Warner will make a God out of him as well.

And Kurt "The Immortal" Warner will be playing for at least the next ten years. Guy is a fucking stallion. A purebred of royal lineage. Guy will be slinging TD passes when my unborn kids are in college probably. So you're just plain wrong on that one. I'd start my franchise with Kurt any day of the week. And so would anyone else who knows anything about football, about life, and about liberty. Because if you dont understand Kurt Warner, you dont understand freedom.

GOOD DAY.

That's right.


Couldn't have said it better.

I LOL'd while reading this, well played sir. Obviously I was not being serious about Fitz, but the year he is having is absolutely insane. This is not Kurt's first rodeo obviously, and he is playing absolutely great right now. You cannot say that he is the Greatest Show on Turf since the Cardinals play on a natural grass field, but he is playing at an equal if not greater level to those days.




















That being said, I would not pick him as the first player for my franchise.

Well, yea, what do you know anyway? You're a Ravens fan after all.

Checking... judges? Yep, he went there.

It would have been nice if Ed Reed would have played yesterday to compare him to Troy.






Oh, Reed did play? That's right, I saw Holmes dive past him for a TD! haha














As for the topic, such a tough call, but I would go with a Oline as well.

I would go with Ed Reed or Patrick Willis.

All of you arguing how important O-Line and D-Line are are right, but this is what you would START the franchise with. You don't need to start with the O and D Line to eventually get a good one. I would probably complete my O and D Line pretty fast if I went through every round, but I wouldn't start with it when I could get someone like Reed or Willis.

Offense - Larry Fitzgerald, Adrian Peterson or Peyton Manning

Defense - Ed Reed, Troy Polamalu or Patrick Willis

It would be Brady pre injury Peyton now. If Big Ben wins this super bowl I'd have a bias vote for him too